Difference between revisions of "Suggestions:Implemented"

From The Shartak Wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
(Moved some more off to page 2)
 
(23 intermediate revisions by 7 users not shown)
Line 5: Line 5:
  
 
This is a page of implemented suggestions for Shartak. Please refrain from editing or deleting any of the information recorded here.
 
This is a page of implemented suggestions for Shartak. Please refrain from editing or deleting any of the information recorded here.
 +
 +
Older implemented suggestions are archived on the following pages: [[Suggestions:Implemented/1|1]] [[Suggestions:Implemented/2|2]] [[Suggestions:Implemented/3|3]] [[Suggestions:Implemented/4|4]] [[Suggestions:Implemented/5|5]] [[Suggestions:Implemented/6|6]]
  
 
If you would like to make new suggestions, see the [[Suggestions]] page.
 
If you would like to make new suggestions, see the [[Suggestions]] page.
  
 
== Implemented ==
 
== Implemented ==
−
=== Profile Effect Items ===
 
−
{{suggestion|
 
−
suggest_type=Game mechanics|
 
−
suggest_scope=Inventory and profiles|
 
−
suggest_description=These are useless baubles that take up 1 unit of a player's inventory space, but if anyone views their profile they will see that the players possesses the item. Using the item won't accomplish anything and merely produce flavor text. However, if a player is in the presence of another player, using the item would show it off. As with all items, there's no way to trade them with other players. We can have eyepatches and peglegs. We can have tribal masks and warpaint. Maybe some clans would require a certain dress code. Maybe they need 30 pieces of flair. I think it provides an outlet for the less serious gamers. Problems: Serious gamers might be plagued with finding such items and dropping them, wasting (in their opinion) AP and Page Hits. Also, arguing over what items fit with the theme of Shartak will be a headache-inducing process.|
 
−
suggest_time=08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)|
 
−
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|
 
−
suggest_comments=
 
−
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
−
*I like this suggestion. How about finding the pieces of the masks and making your own - combine the baubles with mini-quests? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
*For example, to make the sacred warrior mask of Raktam, you must find 5 parrot feathers, a tiger tooth, some berries and a piece of driftwood that can be carved into the appropriate shape with a knife or dagger. Once you have all those items, you get a "create mask" option which then removes the required items and the mask appears in your inventory (and profile).
 
−
**Having the database check to see if they have all the ingredients seems a bit unwieldly. After every action or inventory use it might have to run the check to verify that they are alive, still have the items, etc. I'd just settle for having them take the items to a specific NPC. But yes, a mixing quest would be fun. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
***No, you could easily set it up so that no demands were placed on the server. For example, a recipe that required 5 parrot feathers, berries, driftwood, knife/dagger, and a tiger tooth might only activate upon clicking a tiger tooth amulet: "You try to assemble your Tiger Fetish, but you are missing 3 parrot feathers." In my opinion, there should be hidden flags for characters as well, "visited cave-in", "visited oasis", and so on, so that players would have to discover the Tiger Fetish recipe / assembly process first: by visiting some secret tunnel network, "Engraved on the stone walls is an elaborate recipe for assembling a Tiger Fetish, requiring ..." (if you are fluent at reading Native). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 13:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 
−
 
−
* I just hope that this idea motivates players to try new things ("I'm going to join a clan that wears such-and-such a mask and attack the others! Yarr!") and not feel that the game is just about collecting items ("Well, I got all the masks. I guess I'm done with the game."). --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
−
*Maybe the different masks have different effects, from some simple ones (attracting/scaring animals, making them less likely to attack or easier to hit) to the downright blatavt video game reference that turns you into a huge brown rocky guy who can punch boulders apart. OK, maybe not the second one. [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:53, 9 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
*I think that's something to be worked on in a separate suggestion. The point of this suggestion is to make useless "fancy hats" that neither add or take away from the established gameplay. However, in the eyes of certain players, they may be invaluable because of how they can incorperate such items into their goals and roleplaying. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:52, 9 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
**Bumping this good suggestion. Let's have some cowrie shells! (And The_Conch(tm), see next suggestion.) The barren ruins and huts seem so sad and pathetic right now, they need some wacky useless trinkets to tide us over... Maybe we need shovels to dig for treasure, too. Yarr! --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:06, 10 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
 
−
''Moved to Implemented.  We've had charms and amulets for some time now. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
−
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
−
}}
 
  
−
=== Know your foes ===
+
===Campfire===
 
{{suggestion|
 
{{suggestion|
−
suggest_type=|
+
suggest_type=Making fire, and a skill to make it easier|
−
suggest_scope=|
+
suggest_scope=Applies to all people|
−
suggest_description=As a native, I get killed a lot by outsiders, but I just can't strike back when I come back to life, as nothing allows me to identify my agressors amongst the outsiders I meet. I expected some basic language skill to give me access to clickable outsiders profiles, but it doesn't. So. I don't like much the fact that, in this game, the only alternative you have is "attack random outsiders" or "attack none". I'd like to be able to protect myself without being too unfair to peaceful outsiders (and being part of some snowball effect).
+
suggest_description=
 +
*You spend 5 AP breaking twigs and preparing kindling with the featherstick method. this can stay in your inventory as 'Fire kit/Kindling/Tinder' until you use a sharpening stone and a knife to spark it, which can blunt your knife, by clicking on the kindling in yor inventory while in possession of the stone and knife/dagger.
 +
*When you light a fire, it appears as a description on your square (or an icon?) something along the lines of 'There is a campfire here'. When you're within 5 squares of the fire, you should get a message appearing on your screen in the description about being able to smell smoke, hear the crackling or see the light.
 +
*The fire scares away all types of animals, stopping you from being attacked in the night. It could also; improve whatever searches you make, scar the ground when the fire is destroyed or runs out and/or improve the effects of HP restoring items. or even make you automaticaly recover HP, or recover AP faster.
 +
*Can cauterise a bleeding wound for 10 HP, stopping the bleeding but damaging you further.
 +
*Skills:
 +
'''Basic Bushcraft''' - Light fires for 5AP rahter than unskilled 10 AP
  
−
This would be partly solved by some profile access (allowing to check people's amount of human kills), or some limited displayed info on the present players (it would make -almost- sense for natives to automatically carry visible scalps or shrunken head of their victims, but I'm not sure how to justify the kills display in the case of outsiders, despite of the fact white men were actually quite fond of indian scalps at some time). Another useful tool would be some urban-dead-like contact list.
+
'''Advanced Bushcraft''' - Light larger fires (for cauterising, possibly cooking and distilation of salt water?)|
−
 
+
suggest_time=10:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)|
−
Of course, ideally (but absurdly) the most useful stat to be able to see would be the number of kills of people without human kills at the moment of their death, but...|
+
suggest_author=[[User:Rozen|Rozen]]|
−
suggest_time=15:08, March 16, 2006 (UTC)|
 
−
suggest_author=Leaf|
 
 
suggest_comments=
 
suggest_comments=
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
*Perhaps seeing the profile of someone on the opposite side if you or they have the advanced language skill would be good, it would be cool to hang around with some natives without worrying about aggressors. --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 21:30, 18 March 2006 (GMT)
+
With the fire scaring away all types of animals, I'm wondering if this would allow an organised group to herd wildlife. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 01:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  
−
*If you had a contact list and some way to target individuals on your list ala Urban Dead, I'm guessing that would probably help. Not so sure about the scalp display approach. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:36, 18 March 2006 (GMT)
+
I would think that advanced bushcraft wouldn't be so much about making a fire bigger as about controlling it better. Like how the aborigines in Australia would do controlled burns to increase the amount of tasty wildlife in the area. From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming wikipedia]:
 +
<blockquote>Fire-stick farming is a term coined by Australian archaeologist Rhys Jones in 1969 to describe the practice of Indigenous Australians where fire was used regularly to burn vegetation to facilitate hunting and to change the composition of plant and animal species in an area.
  
−
*A contact list would be quite useful in Shartak. But also being able to read profiles, maybe through an "observe" button and scroll-down menu. For the moment, people just hit each other once, hoping to miss, in order to get a link to the other guy's profile. There must be a more rationnal way to quench this curiosity. -- Gone 13:36, 10 May 2006 (GMT+1)
+
Fire-stick farming had the long-term effect of turning scrub into grassland, increasing the population of nonspecific grass eating species like the kangaroo. The ecological disturbance caused by fire-stick farming has been implicated in the extinction of the Australian megafauna.
  
−
* Basic contact list functionality added. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
+
In wet and dry sclerophyll forests, firestick farming opened the canopy and allowed germination of understory plants necessary for increasing the carrying capacity of the local environment for browsing marsupials.</blockquote>
−
** Can now edit the comments and change the type of the contact from friend to enemy or neutral. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
+
Also, it would be interesting if leaving the fire unattended (leaving the square) while the fire was still burning could lead to forest fires. --[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 07:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  
−
''Moved to Implemented. Conact list enables a player to identify a specific character in a group. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
+
I like that a person would be able to detect someone else's campfire. It's a good balance to it protecting you from animals. I think you should probably be able to see the smoke from a little bit farther away, though. Maybe 6 squares away if it's a small fire, and 7 squares for a big one? I think a big fire one should last longer than a small one, protecting you longer through the night. --[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 22:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
−
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
−
}}
 
  
−
=== The Ghost Elephant ===
+
I like it. Purposeful forest fires should be efficient at clearing jungle randomly, but not so efficient that it would make paths easier to build. The 10 AP total (at max level) would do away with perhaps an average of 15 or 20 levels of jungle on different squares.--[[User:TripleU|TripleU]] 01:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
−
{{suggestion|
 
−
suggest_type=Game mechanics, miniboss|
 
−
suggest_scope=Event|
 
−
suggest_description=Somewhere on the island is an animal that exists purely as a temporary event. The Legendary Ghost Elephant - in reality, an aggressive albino pachyderm of incredible size - is said to roam the island of Shartak. Some Natives revere it, others desire to be recorded as the one who slayed it. Some Outsiders wish to study it, others desire to have it as a trophy. It behaves much like any other elephant on Shartak. However, it has a different label, an unfathomable amount of HP, and deals horrific damage. If you heal the Ghost Elephant with a FAK or Herbs, you receive double XP. And to further serve a challenge, don't place an HP cap on the Ghost Elephant, just give it a starting amount. If possible, a log of all actions performed on the Ghost Elephant should be kept by the server and revealed in the event that it dies.|
 
−
suggest_time=03:58, 17 March 2006 (GMT)|
 
−
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|
 
−
suggest_comments=
 
−
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
−
*Ha! I like this one, Lint, and simple to implement. It should really have a boatload of HP, as I think few will consider expending valuable healing items on it, when its far easier (and more rewarding) to hack away at it for 40 AP then make a run for it! --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 16:42, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
 
  
−
*Arr! I would ride that ghost beast like a horse jus' fer fun, then slay 't t' sell its tusks t' them outsiders an' th' meat t' them natives. --[[User:El Pirata Cofresi|El Pirata Cofresi]] 17:46, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
+
As of December 2008, Campfire was one of the features on [http://www.shartak.com/features.cgi Feature Votes] and had 26 votes.--[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 05:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
−
 
 
−
*In the Congo they refer to it as Mokele Mbembe - he who stops the flow of rivers - and it is rumoured to be a lost dinosaur.  The island could do with some cryptozoology. Would this creature be able to disappear or hide or move incredibly fast?  If not, then once one person finds it, they can just call everyone over to the same square.  This kind of defeats the mythical aspect as well as adding potential server problems. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:24, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
*I should make the animals attack back in near-realtime first (as in you attack them and they may or may not get an attack in).. just to add a bit of interest to it and stop people running up to the creature and hacking and then running away. Making an animal with an almost unlimited number of HP would be possible.. I guess probably start it with at least double a normal elephant and max of about a thousand HP to prevent people healing it to the point where it'd be impossible to kill. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:37, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
*It could be cool, especially if it moved around in a way that made tracking it possible, maybe by destroying the foliage, or moving in a pattern. Also having it move might help keep people from all winding up in one square beating it up. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:41, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
**I've tried to offset the game's focus on combat by encouraging healing (double XP may be too much of a reward, so I'm willing to remove that), but that alone will most likely be not enough to counter the horde of blood-thirsty savages!<br>Healing with the Herbs and FAKs may actually be seen as healing the Ghost Elephant spiritually rather than merely physically, which is why it's health can grow high. I don't see a problem if it became near-unkillable. I like keeping some myths and legends around.<br>I thought that it would be best if it traveled like an elephant, but it is true that it limits the people that are able to participate in the event. Perhaps it should "teleport", after a certain amount of time in an area - "A wall of fog sweeps in through jungle. When it fades, you see that the Ghost Elephant has vanished as well."<br>I requested for a log of actions to determine who killed it, who attacked it the most, who healed it the most, and who got hurt the most. Also, rather than a recurring animal, I thought it would be best to release it as an event that occurs every now and then. Or maybe only once! --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
***Hmm, when the elephant reappears, it should give a loud trumpet which can be heard over a certain radius to increase the chance of players coming across it. Unless of course players would prefer that it were more stealthy. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:25, 4 April 2006 (BST)
 
−
 
 
−
*I like it. And of course, you needn't stick to land animals; a mysterious sea creature that patrols the island waters and is reported to be 30ft long could prompt more people to vernture into the waters for a glimpse/trophy etc. Sharks will also be a problem for those searching! --[[User:Malphas|Malphas]] 15:52, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
*I ''love'' this idea.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 28 March 2006 (BST)
 
−
 
 
−
*Great idea!--[[User:Paradox244|Paradox244]] 21:04, 24 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
 
 
−
*Ah, yes! I was wanting to suggest 'rare' animals as a possible addition, to give variety to the fauna and to provide something for my clan to pursue.--[[User:John Sevier|John Sevier]] 19:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented.  We have occurences of rare animals: Giant Squids, Easter Rabbits, Man-Eating Tiger. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}
  
−
===Poisoning===
+
=== Forest Fire ===
 
{{suggestion|
 
{{suggestion|
−
suggest_type=Game mechanics, status effect, balance|
+
suggest_type=Game mechanics, natural disasters|
−
suggest_scope=All classes, primarily Warriors|
+
suggest_scope=Terrain|
−
suggest_description=Currently, the blowpipe can only carry 1 dart, yet weighs the same amount of inventory space as a rifle with 2 bullets. If you were to pit a fully leveled Soldier armed with loaded rifles against a fully leveled Warrior armed with loaded blowpipes, the battle is in favor of the Soldier who requires less time to reload while inbattle and dealing superior damage. (rifle's 5 to blowpipe's 4).
+
suggest_description=This is a potential temporary minigame that will either lead to players to band together and save the island or perhaps just lead to all-out chaos. A fire script is created which designates one block as fire (it is identified by a little fire.gif in the background). Every 20 minutes the fire script will check if there is <del>Grassland or</del> Jungle nearby with density from 1-10. If there is, it spreads to the next block. It will not spread to any other terrain (including villages and ruins). Thus, the best way to prevent the spread of the fire is by chopping vegetation down to 0. The initial fires will be placed randomly around the island. Actions performed in a fire occupied space deal 2 damage. For this event to be more devious, there should be a means to quickly restore vegetation (dropping driftwood, planting fruit, watering with gourds).|
−
 
+
suggest_time=03:58, 17 March 2006 (GMT)|
−
To address this, I would propose that poison darts actually cause poisoning. Poisoning would behave much like a shark bite - causing 1 HP damage per action performed until they are administered a FAK or medical herbs. A character can die if poison is left untreated. The attacker receives no additional XP for this kill or the damage dealt from poison. Poisoning would not stack, but it would be possible for a character to suffer from both poison and shark bites. The introduction of poison may require the dart's damage to be reduced to something substantially lower. Perhaps a default of 2 HP inflicted.
 
−
 
 
−
Up for discussion - does poisoning have a percent chance of occurring, an AP lifespan (only lasts 10 moves), and perhaps only works on non-npc characters?|
 
−
suggest_time=18:38, 6 April 2006 (BST)|
 
 
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|
 
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|
 
suggest_comments=
 
suggest_comments=
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
*Sounds great! I've heard that some of the toxicins used to poison darts can induce illutions. It would be interesting if poisoning increases AP usage for certain actions or even better imagined enemies (that Sixth Sence could pick out).--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 08:24, 7 April 2006 (BST)
+
*I like some things about this suggestion, I think it could work really nicely if there was also a rain algorithingamajig, so that maybe, if some part of the island dried out, wildfires could break out, or if it rained too much villages could flood and get swamped. Its a neat idea. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 04:55, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
−
* Have you seen the size of the some of the blowpipes that certain tribes carry? They're anything from 6 to 10 foot long! It's hardly surprising that they occupy the same inventory space as a rifle :) On the other hand, poisoning from darts sounds like a good idea.. I don't know that they should poison forever though, maybe for a limited number of AP, but perhaps have the effect be cumulative up to a certain point? Get shot 5 times and you lose 1 HP for every AP used for 5 x whatever the limit is. Does that make sense? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:16, 7 April 2006 (BST)
+
* I like the idea of rain and fire, however there's no telling if the server would handle the database access/calculations required when the number of players gets into the range that Urban Dead has. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:17, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
−
***Exactly - e.g., each poison dart that hits adds 2 AP to the poison duration, and while poisoned, you lose 1HP per AP used. The Poison Dart would eventually inflict 6 hp of damage, offsetting the extra damage and double barrel of the rifle. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 07:22, 12 April 2006 (BST)
+
** I thought it might be a bit much. Ah well. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
−
**That might work, that way the Warrior has incentive to continue using the blowpipe multiple times on a target rather than just switch to their machete after the poison takes effect. Add to the character table a boolean flag (Poison = True) and give it a Poison Timer int. When the timer reaches 0, the Poison gets flipped to False. When the character dies or a FAK or Herb is applied, the Poison gets flipped to False and the timer gets set to 0. If the flag is True and they're poisoned again, stack the timer. I'm going to put forth this suggestion to the Forum. I don't have a lot of experience with using the blowpipe (I'm a machete guy) so they should weigh in on this. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:17, 7 April 2006 (BST)
+
** Not the idea of fire itself, that may well be quite feasible. I meant having rain causing flooding, or not enough rain leading to fires might be a bit awkward.. unless I can think of some way to reduce the work that needs to be done regularly. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:38, 18 March 2006 (GMT)
−
* Or how about you can find [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_dart_frog#Toxicity frogs] and use them to put differnt posion effects on your darts? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 04:57, 11 April 2006 (BST)
+
* Maybe fires could also destroy huts, and then there could be a skill to rebuild them. Maybe even give people the ability to start their own fires. It might make for interesting tribal wars. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:22, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
−
:*If we're adding poison dart frogs, I demand that they be lickable. It wouldn't be right, if you couldn't lick the poison dart frogs.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 20:14, 11 April 2006 (BST)
+
** Imagine what would happen if an ammo hut caught on fire!--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 04:32, 1 April 2006 (BST)
−
::* Ok... then some benifical frogs too! And people can't tell the diffrence between them unless they get some skill? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:27, 17 April 2006 (BST)
+
** I kind of wanted to restrict fires to the Jungle (removed my Grasslands comment from the original suggestion) since a lot of Huts provide resources for starting players and players that have just been revived. I think it would be unfair to prevent them with the opportunity to gather supplies. As a tactic, it may also be unfair. Native villages appear to be completely surrounded by burnable Jungle, while Outsider villages are bordered by the Beach. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:46, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
−
*Bump! Awaiting a short lifespan (eg 4hp) additional poison effect for poison darts. And/or Native-only Poisoning skill so that Snake + Dart = uberdart that causes permanent poisoning (aka shark wound). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)
+
** Good point. The pirates would be completely free of burning too. I still think a way to temporarily damage structures could be fun -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 19:59, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
−
* Short lifespan poison effect added a little while ago. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 22:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
+
** As a general rule, real world jungles don't burn terribly well, although there are a few notable exceptions (such as the Indonesian forest fires in 1997-98).  Grasslands, however, burn quite regularly, and in fact such fires are necessary for the good health of the grass.  Fire kills off sapling trees in the area which would otherwise grow to the point that they overshadowed and killed the grass.  I don't know whether the game has any grasslands large enough to make this kind of thing interesting, though. --[[User:Jackdaw|Jackdaw]] 15:55, 25 March 2006 (GMT)
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}
 +
===Planting/agriculture===
 +
Both outsiders and natives with this skill should be able to plant trees (mango, banana) on fertile land. By clearing away jungle, and applying an example of the fruit of the tree you wish to plant, you could sow the seed. A tree of that type would then sprout X days later. This would open up for plantation, and help feed the villages/settlements. --[[User:DKChannelboredom|DKChannelboredom]] (2 March)
 +
 +
''Comments''
 +
:Interesting idea, perhaps only a chance that a tree will grow, and to ensure a tree grows you have to plant a certain number of fruit of the same kind on the same block. Of course, does this mean that existing trees should occasionally die off, say if they get surrounded by 8 blocks of highest density jungle and the tree block is also highest density jungle.. maybe explained as something to do with lack of sunlight reaching the tree because of the amount of jungle around it. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:47, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
 +
::Why not treat existing trees and planted trees separately? My initial thought is that if I did not have this skill, I would still like the opportunity to gather resources from a dependable source. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
 +
:::There is now an extensive farm north of York, which makes me thing that players would like to engage in some sort of agricultural production. Rather than limit it to mangoes and bananas, why not have other tropical fruits (pineapples, guavas and pawpaws) and even outsider staples like potatoes and spinach? - [[FirstAmongstDaves]]
 +
::::Just for the lulz, it should be allowed to plant bushes or trees which only grows poisonous fruits, one for natives and one for outsiders, unidentifiable without native/outsider knowledge respectively. Otherwise, to add a little twist, maybe for plants with real poisonous parts (potatoes anyone) might confuse the other faction (here: natives) and trick them into harvesting those unless they have outsider knowledge. --[[User:Baliame|Baliame]] 15:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 +
:::::There is now a farm just south of the Shipwreck Also, Maintained by [[Exotic_Sports_Hunting_Club|ESHC]] that spans in all directions with Vineyards and Trails--[[User:Bloodclott|Bloodclott]] 04:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 +
Forum threads discussing agriculture:
 +
*[http://forum.shartak.com/index.php?topic=1222.0| Food on shartak (eating bananas all your life is just trouble waiting to happen)]
 +
*[http://forum.shartak.com/index.php?topic=233.0| My plantation is but dirt and broken dreams...]
 +
*[http://forum.shartak.com/index.php?topic=1134.0| Wheat]
 +
--[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 07:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
  
−
===Living countermeasures against spirits===
+
As of December 2008, Planting/Agriculture was the top voted feature on [http://www.shartak.com/features.cgi Feature Votes] with 34 votes. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 05:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
−
{{suggestion|
+
----
−
suggest_type=Skill, balance change|
 
−
suggest_scope=Everyone who's sick of the gathering of banshees in their medical supply houses|
 
−
suggest_description=As spirits become more angry and desire ever-more the blood of the mortals around them, the shamans of the island have begun to develop ways to put them to flight or at least guard their fellow islanders against the terror that these ghosts inspire. In the course of circulating this information between the villages of Raktam, Dalpok, and Wiksik, however, it has been intercepted by outsider spies and delivered to the developing scientific communities that exist in the outsiders' camps.
 
  
−
To be concise, we've got a ghost problem in Shartak.  I'm not sure how many villages this goes on in, but it seems that the spirits of the dead have taken up residence in the healers' hut of my beloved village of Wiksik.  There are many living men and women also inside of this little abode, and all of us suffer from the shrieks and howls of the angry spectres, day after day.  Some of our most skilled medicine-men have even lost their lives, struck dead from horror while they slept.
+
=== Religious Devotion ===
 +
Required to use "Holy Scriptures" --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)
  
−
So, my suggestion?
+
''Comments''
 +
----
  
−
I'm thinking about something around the lines of  "spirit exorcism" skill that can be learned and used by shamans/scientist to banish spirits from whatever urban areas they inhabit.  In order for this to be used, the individual must be in the same square as the spirit, in the village or camp that he/she originated from, and sense the spirit's presence.  When used, the spirit will be flung out of the village/camp a long ways, perhaps 10 or 20 squares.  This, I think, would be a reasonable answer to ghosts that find no better purpose in the afterlife than to haunt important huts in villages and try to scare the inhabitants to death...
 
  
−
(FYI, the Wiksik healing hut has 2 such spectres, and they're getting to be kinda irritating.)
+
=== Fire ===
  
−
Another such idea would be a "spirit ward" skill, also only usable by shamans and scientists, that would slow a spirit's movement and reduce the effectiveness of its attacks in the presence of a the shaman who holds the skill. 
+
How about fire for torches? Fire could also:
  
−
Another idea is that such a skill would allow the user to create wards out of certain types of items, that would be placed like a signpost in a square and produce a similar effect as above.  This would last a finite amount of time before falling apart, and could be destroyed by mortals.|
+
1. be used on the jungle ("You set fire to the surrounding jungle, causing smoke to billow into the sky." The square could turn orange and then red as it was burned, then finally brown once it burned out),  
−
suggest_time=19:54, 1 July 2006 (UTC)|
 
−
suggest_author=[[User:Tenebrys|Tenebrys]]|
 
−
suggest_comments=
 
−
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
  
−
YES. I like this one. Spirits are annoying. [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 17:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
+
2. be used as campfires for villages and the wreck,  
  
−
: Yes, 100%. To clarify: (1) Banshee wailers are unlikely to earn even 90 xp per day since the xp nerf, so spirit abuse isn't the problem. (2) Mortals who spend an AP or two each day to STEP OUTSIDE THE HUT take no damage from wailing (shaman chanting protects them), so "suffering" by mortals too lazy to spend 2 in each 72 AP protecting themselves is not the problem. (3) Living characters who spend their entire lives in the Medical Hut searching for FAKs (Healing Herbs) and healing each other easily earn 150 xp per day with no risk and no interaction. (Even death is nothing but a 30 AP inconvenience.) My adventuring character has visited Dalpok with GPS units but gained no XP, while my Medical Hut XP Farmer has gone nowhere, done nothing, and gained 5 experience levels in 2 weeks. Solution 1: Scientists/Shamans get an Exorcism skill to blast spirits 20 away in a random direction. Solution 2: Advanced spirits get an AP-intensive skill that allows them to prohibit use of healing items in their current location. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 18:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
+
3. light caves, for increased search rates ("You light a torch and it illuminates the cave. Shadows cast from flying bats give the cave an eery appearance.")  
  
−
:: Banshee wailers don't really contribute anything to the game, as most of the ones I have seen simply spam the wail. I'm honestly not sure what purpose they serve beyond providing a lot of spam and some opertunity for an alternate way to gain XP besides combat. I would also disagree that healers do not interact, as there is often times conversation being held as well as healing other characters. Many times there remains no one to be healed in herbal/medical huts, so healers with take a trip outside to heal anyone they can find injured in the village. Honestly, I see it as a lot more interactive than simply running around and killing animals. So the question is, what role are spirits supposed to have in the game? Are they supposed to be a substainable pseudo-class or are they supposed to be a diversion from the living side of the game? I'm fine with either one, but if they are supposed to be a pseudo-class then I think they need something more than just a skill-branch which allows you to annoy people, as well as there would need to be a means by which living characters can forcibly deal with them. --[[User:Shosuro|Shosuro]] 3 July 2006
+
4. burn opponents, ("You hit Long Fin Killie in the face with a torch for 3HP damage.") or huts (""You set the hut on fire and the inhabitants each suffer 1HP loss from smoke inhalation.")
  
−
Ok, so does exorcism:
+
5. scare away wild animals like tigers, which might not approach a torch.
−
* banish just one spirit from the location?
 
−
* have a fairly high chance of banishing each spirit?
 
−
* have a fairly high change of banishing one spirit?
 
−
Whilst I can see shamans having this skill, and scientists having a similar skill with the same effect, would characters need to find an item such as a bible or a charm as well as having the skill in order to perform the ritual?
 
  
−
I think we're now at the point where this is likely to be the next thing added so get the ideas in! Wasn't there another section with a similar theme somewhere? Perhaps they should be merged. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 12:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
+
I also like the idea of driftwood being set ablaze with a flint of some description - a sharpening stone is a good idea - and also putting out fire with water. Perhaps you could not step into a river or the water with a lit torch - the torch would fizzle out (which would also prevent some smartie from setting fire to the shipwreck).
 +
 +
Fire might also be visible from a distance. "You see a column of smoke to the north east."
  
−
:Items necessary to perform an exorcismal ritual?  Yes, I think so.  At least -something- should have to be scrounged up or traded for, if shamans/scientists are to have such powers over the supernatural world...
+
And, as a gag, if you drink rum while holding a torch then you breath fire.
  
−
:Looking around, I hadn't seen any articles that had similar such intentions, though.  At any rate...
+
[[FirstAmongstDaves]]
  
−
:As long as the items are available, exorcism should have a pretty high chance of getting rid of a spirit that is haunting an area. The odds should be such that a single spirit usually won't require more than two attempts at being cast out. If there is more than one spirit in the area, it might take multiple attempts before they're all gone; otherwise, as long as the exorcist is in the vicinity of ghosts and has the correct exorcismal supplies, he/she won't have all that much trouble getting rid of them.
+
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
"You take a swig of rum and put your face up to the torch. You exale the rum into the fire, and a large jet of flame comes out of the other side of the torch." or even,
 +
"You take a swig of rum and put your face up to the torch. You exale the rum into the fire, and a large jet of flame comes out of the other side of the torch. However, you did not do it right and the flame singes your face for X hit points!"
 +
-[[A Cow]]
 +
::That would be amusing, if pointless, like the coin-toss. - [[FirstAmongstDaves]]
 +
::: To be realistic, huts, jungle, or similar things should burn down and spread. burning areas would turn orange, then red, and would turn normal when there was nothing left to burn. Every AP recharge or so, the jungle would go down one level, a signpost if there was any would burn away, all people and animals would take X damage from various reasons (most animals would flee though), and huts or similar things would go down in levels ("slightly charred/ rather burned/ badly burned/collapsing/burnt ruins/nothing left but the foundation) which would have gradually decreasing search odds, and the last two would have the huts not be entered/exited areas, there would be no difference between inside and outside. The fire would have an X% chance of spreading into a touching square that wasn't burning or completely burnt down. There would have to be some way to put out or contain the fire to prevent the entire island from having all vegetation going to 0, all huts burning down (maybe a "hut repair" skill?), and all people and NPCs dying and having to wait for a shaman to come back before they can every time some guy sets something on fire. Maybe spreading from square to square would have a low chance and fuel consumption happens fast, so a fire will often burn down before it spreads. Or you could have player-imposed limitations by keeping a circle or part of one around an area totally clear of jungle and, if people comply with policy, players and signs. If you put it right at the edge and on the inside, animals wouldn't go in for whatever reason, so... a maniac trying to burn down the island would need a second torch if they used the first one on the village and the other villages still wouldn't be destroyed. Okay, by itself that wouldn't help much, but with the low spread/high burn and make it easy to put out with water and we've got some vague balance. --[[User:AlexanderRM|AlexanderRM]] 01:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 +
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
  
−
:I can see this skill taking a good deal more than just one AP, though. Maybe three or five...
+
===Flintlock Pistols===
 +
{{suggestion|
 +
suggest_type=New Item and Set of Skill to go along with it|
 +
suggest_scope=Whoever can shoot a gun|
 +
suggest_description='''Mechanics'''
 +
*Half the inventory space of the rifle
 +
*1 shot loading
 +
*.5 AP to load. (or skill to make it so)
 +
*4 damage
 +
*Find in the Shipwreck's Armoury and (with less chance) the Large Cabin.
 +
*Also find in outsider camp's ammo hut with the same chance as in the Large Cabin.
 +
*Ammo is more likely to be found in 'purses' of three. eg, 'Looking around you find a purse of three flintlock balls'
  
−
:As for the specific items?  A bible and a candle or two would be sufficient for men versed in the religions of western civilization to carry out their duties when it comes to driving away supernatural beings. Natives, however, have different methods of dealing with ghosts and spectres they find -- their ceremonies may well make use of healing herbs burnt as offerings, driftwood used for talismans to ward off the dead, and even maybe a poisonous snake to help adorn a witch-doctor during ritual dances.
+
'''Roleplay and realism'''
 +
*Soldiers who roleplay would prefer to carry them instead of the dozen rifles they now cary. In real life, you can realisticly carry eight flintlocks and a rifle. (Two in the boots, two on the shins, two on the thighs, and two under the arms with a rifle in hand).
 +
*Pirates have always been seen with cutalss and one-shot pistol in hand.
  
−
:Not sure if I'm going too far here, though... I haven't thought TOO deeply into the specifics of this skill.  Others, especially shamans and scientists, feel free to add on... but stay rational.  Not sure if I did the same... --[[User:Tenebrys|Tenebrys]] 22:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
+
'''Skills'''
 +
*'''No Skill'''- ''5% chance of hitting your target''
 +
*'''Pistol Marksmanship(Soldiers and Pirates)'''- ''Plus 20% chance to hit your target with a Flintlock Pistol''
 +
*'''Advanced Pistol Marksmanship'''- ''Plus another 20% chance to hit your targetwith a Flintlock Pistol''
 +
*'''Hunter Marksman (Scouts with outsider knowledge and Explorers)'''- ''Plus another 20% chance to hit your target with a Flintlock.''
 +
*'''Flintlock Mastery'''- ''Plus 15% chance to hit your target with Flintlock Pistol''
 +
*'''Quickshot'''- ''Loading costs .5 AP''|
  
−
:My preference would be to let a scientist or shaman exorcise one random spirit from their location for 1 AP and with a chance of reduced effectiveness (displacement of the spirit). The exorcism could be more effective if it took place near the exorciser's home camp and less effective if it took place near the spirit's home camp. (E.g., ''if (rand() > distToExorciserCampShaman/(distToExorciserCampShaman+distToSpiritCampShaman)) success=true''. This plays into myths of ghosts having homes/haunts that they prefer. I suppose displacement could be non-random and based simply upon the ratio just mentioned in italics, but the mysterious nature of an exorcism would practically demand unpredictability.) I wouldn't require any items and would certainly not cause items to be used up by exorcisms, because I think it makes less sense for spirit-world interaction to be a matter of potions and incense than for it to occur in a certain mental state (reached through intense concentration by scientists and chanting by shamans; the skill would be the same, but the flavor text would differ).
+
suggest_time=02:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)|
 +
suggest_author={{profile|4862|Rozen}}|
 +
suggest_comments=
 +
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
'''''Original idea by {{profile|4862|Rozen.}} Wiki-fied by [[User:Che|Che]]'''''
  
−
:I suppose I should mention that I'm trying to imagine spirits as existing in an alternate, simultaneous realm, not as misty apparitions capable of bumping things in the night and creating sound waves. (I guess that means screams, shrieks and wails damage a player's health by damaging their psyche and thus weakening their spirit-body connection, or something.) If anyone can provide a consistent (if fantastic) explanation of spirits in classical and/or Caribbean mythology, this might be a good place to do so. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 04:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
+
I'd like to get some fresh comments about this. I have the old comments saved in case anyone wants to look...I just want to see what Shartak: The Next Generation thinks of this, you know :P  --[[User:Rozen|Rozen]] 22:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  
−
The previous discussion was tucked away on the Suggestion Talk page where it wasn't very visible. [[Talk:Suggestions#Exorcism|Exorcism]]. I'm not sure if merging is necessary, but some of the discussion there can carry over here. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
+
I'd really like to see this become a reality Rob. I would suggest it only be available at the shipwreck though. The only reason I can think of, as to why Simon hasn't introduced a firearm for Pirates so far, is that he wants Pirates to stay focused on bladed weapons, or at least, not favouring firearms over bladed weapons. But I'm only guessing here. Wild guessing at that ;) Anyways, if that ''were'' the case, I would make the hit% the same as using a cutlass/machete. 45% but with an extra point of damage. --[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]]
 +
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
}}
  
−
:The AP cost of Exorcism can be compared to Success-Likelihood * Number-Affected * Distance-Displaced. Sending a spirit 15-40 squares away in a random direction seems like a good idea (imho they should land out of sight of the camp). This will cost the spirit 15-40 AP to recoup. To charge the same amount to the scientist/shaman, we could use an AP cost of (e.g.) 4 per Exorcism combined with a 25%-10% chance of Exorcism success. Unless Exorcism gives an XP reward, tho, there isn't much incentive to use it ... So with no XP reward, I'd be happier with a cheaper and more effective Exorcism skill. For example, cost could be 3-5 AP, and effectiveness could be 40%-50% (for example, 40% chance on one spirit, then if successful 40% chance on another spirit, and so on, if you want a very slight chance to banish multiple spirits). Certain charms (such as the Silver Cross for Outsiders/Outsider Knowledge) could either be necessary pre-requisites, or perhaps greatly increase the ritual's effectiveness. Perhaps the charm or cross is used to bless fresh water, which in turn becomes able to be consumed in Exorcism. I support more complex item interaction -- Shartak would benefit from item-dependent skills. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
  
−
::It'd be least jarring for players if successes seemed related to the odds of utter failure (i.e., no "failure, big success, big success, failure" stuff); for example, the odds might be 20% for a complete miss, 20% for a displacement of 1 to 3 squares, 20% for a displacement of 4 to 8 squares, 20% for a displacement of 9 to 15 squares, and 20% for a displacement of 16 to 25 squares. To get such an exponential distribution, get a random number from 0 to 5, square it, round it down, and displace the spirit by that number. In practice, this would mean a displacement of 20 or more squares would occur just 10% of the time, and the (mean) average displacement (if I did the integration properly) would be about 8 squares. Since exorcism will be the only way for a living player to harm a spirit, and assuming there will be no XP gain for using the skill, I think a cost of 1 AP per exorcism will be fine. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 03:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
+
===Flint & Tinder ===
 +
{{suggestion|
 +
suggest_type=New Item|
 +
suggest_scope=All classes|
 +
suggest_description=This suggestion is for a new item, a flint and tinder box for the creation of fires. This item would be found by searching empty huts in [[camp|camps]] or the cabins at the [[shipwreck]].
 +
|
 +
suggest_time=17:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)|
 +
suggest_author=[[User:Skull Face|Skull Face]]|
 +
suggest_comments=
 +
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
Comment here
 +
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
}}
  
−
:::Elembis gives another good method of implementing exorcism (Equivalently, you can generate a random number 0 to 1, then multiply by 25, then round down). From my perspective: In fine literary (movie?) tradition, I was envisioning an exorcism as an event that either works spectacularly or fails utterly (on any particular spirit). I can't think of many exorcism examples where the spirit is driven out of the bedroom into the stairway or the breakfast nook. So I'd be happier with an exorcism that kicked 15+ squares (or none at all). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
+
===Flintlock===
 +
{{suggestion|
 +
suggest_type=New Item|
 +
suggest_scope=All classes|
 +
suggest_description=This suggestion is for a new item, the flintlock pistol, a black powder weapon from the pirate era, found only at the shipwreck, the ruined armoury NE of Durham and the tower on Midway Island.  
  
−
I personally like the idea of ghosts and what not, but I hate the fact that as the living we have no effect on them. So I propose in the interest of gameplay distinction we only give the exorcism skill (the ability to banish spirits to a random location) to only the outsider scientist class and for the shaman class (given their nature) create a new “revive/raise” skill which like the NPC shaman’s in the game “return spirits to a body”, the percentage chance of success should be low (5%), with an XP reward of 5 or 10 (anymore would encourage farming) while everything else remains the same as a normal revive, this means shamans can force revive annoying spirits and/or promote party/group explorations as they don’t have to start over since it reduces the need to contact shamans (as long as the shaman is alive that is). To maintain fairness additional gameplay distinction may include the newly revived having only a half life (30HP instead of max HP) and/or more AP cost to stand up. Furthermore this new skill maybe tweaked to allow shamans to have a new avenue in necromancy powers over dead bodies like perhaps zombies.--[[User:A for anarchy|A for anarchy]] 02:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
+
The flintlock would take up 2 inventory slots. Base hit chance for all classes would be 20% (45% with [[Suggestions:Skills#Black_Powder_Proficiency|Black Powder Proficiency]]) delivering 4 HP damage on a successful attack. The flintlock would be a 1 shot weapon requiring 2 APs to prime with a powder charge (1 AP with [[Suggestions:Skills#Black_Powder_Proficiency|Black Powder Proficiency]]), 1 AP to load with 1 lead balls and 1 AP to fire. When loaded and carried through a water square each flintlock would have a 50% chance of being soaked and the powder ruined - the item description would change to a ''useless flintlock''. Such a weapon would have to cleaned using 2 APs (1 AP with [[Suggestions:Skills#Black_Powder_Proficiency|Black Powder Proficiency]]) and the ammo added back to the user's inventory before the flintlock could be primed again. When used there is a small chance that a misfire (e.g. 95%-100%) would destroy the weapon and cause 4 HP damage to the user c.f. breaking machetes.
−
 
+
|
−
Scientists are men of reason and thus I do not believe they are the type who would use exorcism to banish spirits. I think they should use cameras (a suggested item) to capture the spirits and carry them away from the camp to a shaman.--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 04:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
+
suggest_time=[[User:Skull Face|Skull Face]] 12:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)|
−
 
+
suggest_author=[[User:Skull Face|Skull Face]]|
−
''Moved from [[Suggestions:Skills]]:'' I feel that powerful native Shamans should have a greater degree of power over spirits. The skill would be in the same branch as the Sixth Sense and Seance abilities and would give Shamans the ability to exorcise a single identified spirit from the area for 5 AP. It would work by automatically moving the spirit a number of sqaures  in a random direction (east, west, northwest etc). The power of the skill would be dependant on the level of the Shaman using it - the number of sqaures the spirit is moved will be equal to the level of the Shaman. For example, a level 15 Shaman with this skill would be able to use the skill on a spirit in the same area and send it 15 squares in a random direction. I feel this skill would do a great deal to make things more interesting for spirit players.
+
suggest_comments=
−
I think generally that the natives should have a greater degree of power over spiritual things than the outsiders (although they would have different advantages) --[[User:Zeff|Zeff]] 18:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
+
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
 
+
This is not as good as a maxed machete because of the high AP cost. I don't want tons of useless items like that in shartak like they have in hellrising so NO.
−
:Indeed mystery commenter, I must admit though that I like the idea of using the Shaman's level to determine how many squares to send the spirit. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 20:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
+
:It's not meant to be as good as a maxed out machete. You are missing the point. Powder weapons are intended for pirates with [[Suggestions:Skills#Black_Powder_Proficiency|Black Powder Proficiency]]. That skill and the powder weapons would not make pirates superior to Soldiers or Warriors but it would give them additional options and RP flavour. From POV of AP usage vs damage inflicted, using the skill with multiple pistols would make a Pirate slightly more effective in combat (36 HP for 20 APs vs 30 HP for 20 APs) than solely with a cutlass and maxed HTH skills, but only until all their pistols are discharged. This fits nicely with the image of a volley of lead from pre-primed weaponry followed by HTH combat. Availability of powder and balls is deliberately kept problematic. Along with misfire chances this would keep these new weapons from flooding the market too quickly.--[[User:Skull Face|Skull Face]] 12:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
−
 
+
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
:Very good. Displacement depends on the shaman's level while the chance of success (assuming success isn't guaranteed) is static (around 40%, perhaps, with a 2 AP use cost) or dependent on the distances to the two parties' home camps (see my comment above) if that's feasable. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
+
}}
−
 
+
===Pistols found in Shipwreck===
−
Isn't the repulsion of spirits against the Free Lunch principle? If a spirit player donated to be exempt from the action limit(though this can be done with an action limit), they could have a team of shamen pursue their spirit character to move them without using any of the spirit's AP. Even if movement is random they would find opportunities to scare frequently enough.--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 23:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
+
{{suggestion|
−
:Wouldn't that evoke the "curse" upon them for working together? At any rate I like the idea of being able to stick it to the spirits. Try one night in the York medical hut and you'll see what I mean. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 00:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
+
suggest_type=Balance the availability of Pistols|
−
::I've been tormented by ghosts and I think that we need to capture them with cameras, forcing them to revive instead of letting them wander back into town.--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 02:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
+
suggest_scope=Pirates|
−
 
+
suggest_description=Pirates have it a bit rough in this game. That is part of the fun for sure: No one seems to like them. But their class specific skill of Pistol Training isn't much good considering how hard it is to find Pistols. If they have the ability to be specialists in Pistols wouldn't they have some on their OWN ship? I have spent almost the entirety of my time in game LOOKING for the ghost ship and I have never seen it. Then I wander into a village to resupply and someone throws a fit and kills me (with a rifle) for searching for FAKs. If I at least had a pistol... OOOH! Then they'd be sorry!|
−
''Moved to Implemented. Shaman has "Exorcism" skill.  --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
+
suggest_time=11:00 August 13, 2011|
 +
suggest_author=[[User:Fauzii|Fauzii]]|
 +
suggest_comments=
 +
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 +
I agree that one should be able to find pistols in a fixed location, or at least the bullets. Still, pirates need a reason to raid the ghost ship. Perhaps a charm that lowers pistol breakage chance and instead has a chance to break itself?
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}
 +
=== Absinth ===
 +
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as "Bottle of absinth" (in addition to the existing "Bottle of beer" and "Bottle of water"). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
 +
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
 +
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad escription=A new, one-sRobert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
 +
*The whole "distortion of game display" thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location ("As the effects of the ''See tabsinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle."). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these "strange herbs" would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)
  
 +
When found/bought/clicked, it should say, "You search/bought/see and find absinth. It's probably not safe to drink." I've never heard of absinth before, and wouldn't want to end up with a bunch of weird effects when I thought it was just another kind of booze. Adding "It's probably not safe to drink." should clear up the confusion. When you take it, it should say, "You feel really weird, and things don't seem normal right now. This should wear off in an hour or two."
  
−
=== Refillable containers ===
+
Maybe a different effect? For the next however many hours clicking "move" sometimes moves you in a random direction, speaking jumbles some of your words, you can't aim straight, and searching turns up pink elephants?  --[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 01:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
−
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.  Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:
+
:I read up on absinth. It IS booze. Geeze, and here I thought it was some kind of hallucinogen the way you were talking. --[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 08:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)  
−
* drinking too much "ocean" water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)
 
−
* a "create mysterious serum" skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a "buff" potion.
 
−
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect
 
−
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be "healers" willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
 
  
−
''Comments''
+
::Yes, it's quite intense being normally around the 70% alcohol percentage. It contains Thujone, which was reportedly responsible for hallucinations. Oh, and it doesn't cause hallucinations. I drink it and to be quite frank, anything around 70% that is drunk in suitable quantities would cause many a vision. Good stuff :)--[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 08:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
−
*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
 
−
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
 
−
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly. Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as "Empty Inside" or "Shaman's Hut".  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me. About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
* Refillable bottles and gourds added. Not sure about buff potions etc though. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 19:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 
  
−
''Moved to Implemented. Bottles/gourds are refillable, salt water damages. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
+
:::Ah good old Absinthe, the nasty stuff is about 90% (not legal in most countries) and indeed it is not hallucinogenic but comes very close when you are blind drunk. Perhaps it should cure poison but reduce your accuracy for several ap (if you can survive a bottle of 90% absinthe then you can survive pretty much any other poison).--[[User:Etherdrifter|Etherdrifter]] 19:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  
 +
::::I've heard of that 90% stuff. Gotta get a bottle for myself :) I do like the cure poison suggestion, but I suspect there is something else that helps deal with poison ;)--[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 06:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 +
Cross References:
 +
* [[Suggestions:Skills#Melee_buffs_for_intoxicated_pirates]]
 +
* [[Suggestions:Game_mechanics#Drunkness]]
 +
--[[User:Buttercup|Buttercup]] 12:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 
----
 
----
 +
=== Tunnels ===
 +
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.
  
−
 
+
''Comments''
−
=== Ranged weapons ===
+
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]
−
 
+
::Tunnels underneath the island '''lead to interesting places.''' --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:43, 8 June 2006 (BST)
−
I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf
+
:::With the addition of the island of Rakmogak, the game gained numerous underground tunnels leading to interesting places. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
−
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
:* ''bump'' - like the poison added the other day then. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 12:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 
−
::* Yep, Blowpipe is not longer useless. If you wanted to add a limited benefit of range, you could have the Blowpipe and the Rifle deal damage to Animals as a ranged effect. In other words, the elephant couldn't trample you because you're hiding in the Jungle with your ranged weapon (still in same square). In fact that might make more sense than (or in addition to) a 6 damage blowpipe vs NPCs - NPCs don't get to use Reactive Attacks against a Ranged Weapon. (Although perhaps the Huts/Villages are too small to get true Range on the Trader or Shaman...) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 14:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 
−
:::* (Game designer has implied that ranged weapons do indeed reduce the chance of being reactively attacked by an animal. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 23:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC))
 
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented. Poison darts poison, ranged weapons lessen chance of being hit by animal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
−
 
 
 
----
 
----
  
 +
===Inventory Limit===
  
−
===animal wearings===
+
I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)
−
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}
+
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)
−
 
+
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)
−
*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)
+
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)
−
 
+
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)
−
:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}
+
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)
−
 
+
* Still needed/wanted or is the greasemonkey script sufficient? Would this change if, for example, backpacks or some other means of carrying extra items was implemented? Inventory size: 23/90 --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 12:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
−
::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)
+
** It would be nice to have an official inventory counter mechanic as I believe the script is based on a handful of assumptions (inventory size for all classes is 71, gold coins are weightless, ranged weapons have weight of 2 units) and will require testing and updating whenever a new item is added. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
−
 
+
* Ok, this has been added...
−
:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)
+
<nowiki><span class="invsize">36 / 70</span></nowiki>
−
 
+
but the invsize style is set to display:none by default - override it to get it to display alongside the inventory header. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
−
:::Apparently this has been implemented - I just got a tiger tooth amulet from the pirate trader.  He doesn't have any others, alas... *brag* [[User:Ssarl|Ssarl]], 12:19, June 16
+
: The option to have inventory displayed as been part of the game for some time. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
−
 
 
−
::::yeah, why does everyone have amulets but me???--[[User:Badhammer|Badhammer]] 02:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented. We have amulets/charms now. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
−
 
 
 
----
 
----
  
−
=== Weapon Skills ===
+
===Breakable weapons===
−
The Warrior/Soldiers class should get weapon skills, like spear skills for the warrior and rifle skills for the soldier, make the soldiers skills make the rifle have better to hit then the natives spear but the rifle requires the searching of ammo, this makes the difference between natives and outsiders warrior classes more than the blowpipe and rifle (blowpipes do 1 less damage) EDIT: I ahnotice that the outsiders do indeed have rifle training, freshly added to the wiki I guess.-- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:07, 17 February 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
''Comments''
 
−
 
 
−
We have been doing some research(see the talk page in character classes) and it appears that warriors are no better at fighting(unless you count 10 extra hp as being really great) than any other class, correct me if I'm wrong but if there is no warrior only fighting skill what makes them warriors and not shamans w/ blowpipes(pardon the pun but they "blow") and +10hp? and if that is all they are how come soilders get extra skills? -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:55, 3 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
Also, if you've got a machete and the three melee skills, there's never any point in using a blowpipe (unless you've got 1AP left and a victim with only 4HP remaining). There should be a skill that increases the chances of hitting with a blowpipe, to at least 30% - especially since you have to search for darts. Viveca Lindfors, 6 March 2006, 17:25 GMT
 
−
 
 
−
It should be over 30% as even at that it still makes blowpipes worse than the heavy sword(which while apparently being really rare itdoesn't mean everybody can't search and find one and 5 dam 45%[2.25 dam/ap] outclasses even 4 dam, search ammo, 2ap per shot, 80%![approaxamitly 1.6 dam/ap not counting search ap] anyday, hell the heavy sword is the uberest weapon in the game![the rifle is 5 dam, 1.5 ap/shot,60%=2dam/ap not counting searching!]) I think you should at least be able to make them have the same to hit as the rifle, It would be balanced by the fact you can only load a single dart at a time(i think),they have lower damage, but you can find darts in more places (check the regular search odds page you'll see they were found in d10 jungle!) I could see this fact alone justify the lower damage and single shot load, but not the lower to hit chance. Unless of course poison darts actually poison(has anybody checked this out?) then I see why they have a low to hit, you can dart somebody, run away then they would die trying to find you, But even if they do poison, outsiders can use them too(with a skill) so I still believe native warriors should be more effective at darting then any other class to balance the superiority of rifles.But all in all problems are solved if blowpipes get some skills to raise to hit% and the heavy sword is removed for being too uber(just cause it is rare doesn't mean we all can't/won't find it!) --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 23:09, 9 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
Maybe there can be a skill to create blowpipe darts (with poison berries or snakes)
 
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented.  Warriors/Soldiers have special skills for weapons, poison darts poison. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
−
----
 
−
 
 
−
===Emergency medicine===
 
 
{{suggestion|
 
{{suggestion|
−
suggest_type=Skill|
+
suggest_type=Weapon alteration|
−
suggest_scope=Scientist|
+
suggest_scope=All weapons|
−
suggest_description=At the moment, scientists have no significant advantages.  They start with 10 gold coins which, while it's nothing to sneeze at, doesn't really fit with their name.  Perhaps they could learn a skill that allowed them to heal without the use of a first aid kit.  First aid would be a prerequisite.  However, the skill would not allow them to heal as many HP as using an FAK would.  For example, they might only heal 2-5 HP.  This would allow scientists to wander in the jungle for long periods of time without resupplying, giving them a real advantage over other classes. However, using an FAK would still heal more and allow more XP per AP, so FAK's would not become obsolete. Would this be difficult to code?|
+
suggest_description=I'd like to propose that all weapons break occassionally.  At the moment, cutlasses and machetes do, but I don't think any other weapons do.  This means that there is a surplus of rifles and blowpipes on the island, as they continue to be produced, but are never destroyed.  It makes perfect sense for a rifle or blowpipe to break (poor handling or poor workmanship?).  Additionally, once someone acquires a heavy sword, it is theirs permanently (to my knowledge).  If it was breakable, it would be both more realistic and less unbalancing.  That being said, the very name "heavy sword" implies that it is strongly built, so perhaps it should have a significantly lower chance of breaking than a machete or cutlass.|
−
suggest_time=08:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)|
+
suggest_time=10:25, 19 July 2006|
 
suggest_author=[[User:Black Joe|Black Joe]]|
 
suggest_author=[[User:Black Joe|Black Joe]]|
 
suggest_comments=
 
suggest_comments=
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
Comment here
+
* Also take a look at Suggestions:Items, where there is a Remove Uber Sword of Doom (aka Heavy Sword) discussion. If I recall correctly, both Simon and Jones Dye have implied that heavy swords do break. I'm not sure why the name "heavy sword" suggests anything other than the sword weighing a lot. Whether it breaks a little or a lot, the heavy sword is still by far the best item in the game, and would still be superior even if it did 1 less damage and broke with normal frequency. Rifles and blowpipes are common - it would be fine for them to have a slight breakage chance. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 16:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
−
 
+
**To me, heavy implies it's either thick or otherwise stronger.  However, that's just my personal take on it, and it's not really a major point.  My main suggestion is that any weapon should have a chance of breaking.  Otherwise, there will be a surplus.  Incidentally, I saw the "Uber Sword of Doom" entry, but given that this covers all weapons, I thought it best to create a separate topic.  Thank you for your input, by the way. - [[User:Black Joe|Black Joe]]
−
''Moved to Implemented.  Scientists have "Emergency First Aid" skill. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
+
* I agree weapons should break occasionally, but I especially would like to see machetes and knives dull with use more often (I dont know if I have ever personally had this happen [though I've heard it does happen], and I've been playing for nearly 7 months), thereby changing your machete into a blunt machete (there arent blunt knives/blunt cutlasses in the game, as far as i know. maybe there should be). Rifles should occasionally explode, too, destroying the weapon and giving you 10 damage or something. Those old-fashioned rifles would occassionally do that. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 +
: As of late 2008, for some time now blowpipes and rifles have been known to become blocked and useless. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}
  
−
=== Villager/Settler ===
+
===Clan News===
−
 
 
−
[[User:Lint|Lint]] recently made a very salient point with respect to [[Game_design|Class Balance]]. Namely, there are very few players '''(4% currently)''' choosing to be (Outsider) Settlers or (Native) Villagers. Realistically, these should be the most abundant classes, so clearly (aside from trival starting inventory) these classes clearly lack any definable appeal. I propose that these 2 classes (due to their years of plying and scavenging their surroundings) are more adept at searching then their peers. As such, they have a +20% bonus in base search percentage. There is precedent for this in UD, with the "consumer" class getting an immediate advantage in searching, and though the nature of that game (i.e. constant heavy barricading of Malls) makes it difficult for consumers to realize their advantage, this would not be the case in Shartak.  This change will undoubtedly make these overlooked classes more attractive to new players.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 00:25, 4 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
''Comments''
 
−
:I wouldn't say that it's completely a bad thing that the Settler and Villager populations are low. (Wouldn't you say that the Consumer population is the lowest in "that other game"?) However, I do agree that this class doesn't appear to be getting the same respect as the others. The search bonus or perhaps the '''Agriculture''' suggestion might be justifiable. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
 
−
 
 
−
:I think your idea is good, Jackel. I'd make it a +50% base search percentage, and I'd also make the "Animal Husbandry" skill guarantee that no animals but sharks, alligators and tigers will attack without provocation. "Years of passive behavior around animals have taught you how to avoid their aggression." Furthermore, I recommend that the scream/shriek/wail skills become villager-only (with "Ghostly Whisper" available to everyone); non-villagers with those three skills could have their XP refunded, or perhaps just left alone. Villagers are underrepresented by far. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 18:09, 21 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
 
 
−
''Moved to Implemented.  Villagers/Settlers have "Animal Affinity" and "Scavenging" skills, and now account for 11% of active characters.  --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
 
−
----
 
−
 
 
−
===Animal Levelling===
 
 
{{suggestion|
 
{{suggestion|
−
suggest_type=balance change|
+
suggest_type=Clan Organization|
−
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|
+
suggest_scope=All clans|
−
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature?  There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions.  And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.
+
suggest_description=Pretty simple idea; an in-clan news system that functions like the "Game News" system.  Keeps clan members informed of any changes, updates, and so on without forcing them to check the forums, a wiki, or to meet the leaders personally.  If server load is a problem (I dunno if it would be, but...), you could perhaps have a minimum amount of active players in the clan for news to work, or have a limit on how much news remains in the archives; for instance, only five news items at any time, with new, er, news deleting the oldest news..|
−
 
+
suggest_time=02:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)|
−
Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:
+
suggest_author=[[User:Tomn|Tomn]]|
−
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"
 
−
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"
 
−
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"
 
−
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"
 
−
|
 
−
suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|
 
−
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|
 
 
suggest_comments=
 
suggest_comments=
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)
+
I really like this idea, as it gives clan leaders the opportunity to bring a message to his clan's members.<br>
−
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)
+
Message boards and Wiki pages can be used to do the same, but many people don't check those, so in-game messaging would be much more effective. --[[User:0000FF Beard|0000FF Beard]] 08:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
−
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one.  Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature.  Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)
 
−
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)
 
−
::::: Simon has it right. hp + 5 (or +10%), accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, with only a few upgrades possible. Or, for example, promote to level 1 after 1 kill, level 2 after 2 more kills (3 total), level 3 after 3 (6) kills, and so on. If a max-upgraded parrot is only as strong as a level 0 tiger, this is nowhere near "kill-in-two-moves" monstrosity. This would add excitement and flavor to the game without any downside. I doubt any animal in Shartak has more than two kills. As the 300-hp Squid shows,  any attention-getting animal will get torn to bits by PCs. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 23:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 
−
* Implemented, but with slightly less elaborate titles (and the maths isn't quite the same either)! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 12:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 
  
−
''Moved to Implemented.  Some animals grow after player kills (though i haven't seen any in a while). --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 19:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)''
+
: I agree that this would be rather useful, with no ill side-effects. Two thumbs up! [[User:Blahmicho|Blahmicho]] 19:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
−
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
+
 
−
}}
+
: This would really help people remember there clans and keep them more active, maybe leading to bigger real-time battles or more people after the hide of a squid. A very good idea. [[User:Edwardel|Edwardel]] 19:14, 24 November 2007  (UTC)
  
 +
: Another agreement from this user. Very useful for communicating with non-forumers without tracking them all over Shartak.--[[User:Broderick|Broderick]] 02:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
  
−
===Haggle===
+
::I throw all my support behind this suggestion. I've been calling for some sort of clan messaging but have never made an effort to put it here, where it matters. We need this! :)--[[User:Cthulhu|Cthulhu]] 05:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
−
{{suggestion|
+
* See also http://forum.shartak.com/index.php?topic=1039.0 --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
−
suggest_type=Skill|
+
* Implemented. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
−
suggest_scope=Everyone|
 
−
suggest_description=You can haggle with the traders and get stuff cheaper. When they are pissed off at you (for being there too long) the prices would become normal.|
 
−
suggest_time=20:20 EST 28/07/2006|
 
−
suggest_author=Aco|
 
−
suggest_comments=
 
−
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
−
* Implemented. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 
−
''Moved to Impemented.  There is now a Haggling skill. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 14:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}
  
−
===Shovel===
+
===Deadwood===
 
{{suggestion|
 
{{suggestion|
−
suggest_type=Tool|
+
suggest_type=New Item|
−
suggest_scope=Wealthy individuals and fortune seekers interested in treasure hunts.|
+
suggest_scope=All classes|
−
suggest_description=Pirates are notorious for burying their treasure. With the shovel a player can dig a hole, deposit gold coins (and other items possibly)and fill it in. Anyone who digs in a square containing treasure will find it.|
+
suggest_description=This suggestion is for a new (sort of) item, dead wood branches. Dead wood would be found only in Jungle squares containing trees (density 5 or higher) or inside empty huts in [[camp|camps]]. Each dead wood branch would occupy 1 inventory slot and function as driftwood.
−
suggest_time=05:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)|
+
|
−
suggest_author=[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]]|
+
suggest_time=17:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)|
 +
suggest_author=[[User:Skull Face|Skull Face]]|
 
suggest_comments=
 
suggest_comments=
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **BELOW** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
−
Implemented. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
+
This has been implemented as of late 2008.  Deadwood can be bought at traders, and found in the jungle. --[[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 10:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
−
: Any chance we could have a shovel that could be used as a melee weapon as well?  Perhaps only doing a base 1 damage to reflect that it's a better tool than weapon? [[User:Johan Crichton|Johan Crichton]] 05:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 
−
::Postal 2, nice.
 
−
:::maybe shovels should break too. hehe cause, when everyone has shovels, then no one needs shovels and they'll just pile up at the traders. i dunno, its just a thought -[[User:Elegost|Elegost]] 13:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
<!-- COMMENT **ABOVE** THIS LINE - DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE -->
 
}}
 
}}

Latest revision as of 15:40, 3 March 2012

Suggestions
Items | Skills | Classes | Game mechanics | Miscellaneous

This is a page of implemented suggestions for Shartak. Please refrain from editing or deleting any of the information recorded here.

Older implemented suggestions are archived on the following pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6

If you would like to make new suggestions, see the Suggestions page.

Implemented

Campfire

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Rozen 10:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC) Making fire, and a skill to make it easier Applies to all people
  • You spend 5 AP breaking twigs and preparing kindling with the featherstick method. this can stay in your inventory as 'Fire kit/Kindling/Tinder' until you use a sharpening stone and a knife to spark it, which can blunt your knife, by clicking on the kindling in yor inventory while in possession of the stone and knife/dagger.
  • When you light a fire, it appears as a description on your square (or an icon?) something along the lines of 'There is a campfire here'. When you're within 5 squares of the fire, you should get a message appearing on your screen in the description about being able to smell smoke, hear the crackling or see the light.
  • The fire scares away all types of animals, stopping you from being attacked in the night. It could also; improve whatever searches you make, scar the ground when the fire is destroyed or runs out and/or improve the effects of HP restoring items. or even make you automaticaly recover HP, or recover AP faster.
  • Can cauterise a bleeding wound for 10 HP, stopping the bleeding but damaging you further.
  • Skills:

Basic Bushcraft - Light fires for 5AP rahter than unskilled 10 AP

Advanced Bushcraft - Light larger fires (for cauterising, possibly cooking and distilation of salt water?)

Comments
With the fire scaring away all types of animals, I'm wondering if this would allow an organised group to herd wildlife. --Johan Crichton 01:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I would think that advanced bushcraft wouldn't be so much about making a fire bigger as about controlling it better. Like how the aborigines in Australia would do controlled burns to increase the amount of tasty wildlife in the area. From wikipedia:

Fire-stick farming is a term coined by Australian archaeologist Rhys Jones in 1969 to describe the practice of Indigenous Australians where fire was used regularly to burn vegetation to facilitate hunting and to change the composition of plant and animal species in an area.

Fire-stick farming had the long-term effect of turning scrub into grassland, increasing the population of nonspecific grass eating species like the kangaroo. The ecological disturbance caused by fire-stick farming has been implicated in the extinction of the Australian megafauna.

In wet and dry sclerophyll forests, firestick farming opened the canopy and allowed germination of understory plants necessary for increasing the carrying capacity of the local environment for browsing marsupials.

Also, it would be interesting if leaving the fire unattended (leaving the square) while the fire was still burning could lead to forest fires. --Buttercup 07:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I like that a person would be able to detect someone else's campfire. It's a good balance to it protecting you from animals. I think you should probably be able to see the smoke from a little bit farther away, though. Maybe 6 squares away if it's a small fire, and 7 squares for a big one? I think a big fire one should last longer than a small one, protecting you longer through the night. --Buttercup 22:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I like it. Purposeful forest fires should be efficient at clearing jungle randomly, but not so efficient that it would make paths easier to build. The 10 AP total (at max level) would do away with perhaps an average of 15 or 20 levels of jungle on different squares.--TripleU 01:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

As of December 2008, Campfire was one of the features on Feature Votes and had 26 votes.--Johan Crichton 05:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Forest Fire

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Lint 03:58, 17 March 2006 (GMT) Game mechanics, natural disasters Terrain

This is a potential temporary minigame that will either lead to players to band together and save the island or perhaps just lead to all-out chaos. A fire script is created which designates one block as fire (it is identified by a little fire.gif in the background). Every 20 minutes the fire script will check if there is Grassland or Jungle nearby with density from 1-10. If there is, it spreads to the next block. It will not spread to any other terrain (including villages and ruins). Thus, the best way to prevent the spread of the fire is by chopping vegetation down to 0. The initial fires will be placed randomly around the island. Actions performed in a fire occupied space deal 2 damage. For this event to be more devious, there should be a means to quickly restore vegetation (dropping driftwood, planting fruit, watering with gourds).

Comments

  • I like some things about this suggestion, I think it could work really nicely if there was also a rain algorithingamajig, so that maybe, if some part of the island dried out, wildfires could break out, or if it rained too much villages could flood and get swamped. Its a neat idea. -BananaBear 04:55, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
  • I like the idea of rain and fire, however there's no telling if the server would handle the database access/calculations required when the number of players gets into the range that Urban Dead has. --Simon 11:17, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
    • I thought it might be a bit much. Ah well. --Lint 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)
    • Not the idea of fire itself, that may well be quite feasible. I meant having rain causing flooding, or not enough rain leading to fires might be a bit awkward.. unless I can think of some way to reduce the work that needs to be done regularly. --Simon 23:38, 18 March 2006 (GMT)
  • Maybe fires could also destroy huts, and then there could be a skill to rebuild them. Maybe even give people the ability to start their own fires. It might make for interesting tribal wars. -BananaBear 18:22, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
    • Imagine what would happen if an ammo hut caught on fire!--Darkferret 04:32, 1 April 2006 (BST)
    • I kind of wanted to restrict fires to the Jungle (removed my Grasslands comment from the original suggestion) since a lot of Huts provide resources for starting players and players that have just been revived. I think it would be unfair to prevent them with the opportunity to gather supplies. As a tactic, it may also be unfair. Native villages appear to be completely surrounded by burnable Jungle, while Outsider villages are bordered by the Beach. --Lint 19:46, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
    • Good point. The pirates would be completely free of burning too. I still think a way to temporarily damage structures could be fun -BananaBear 19:59, 20 March 2006 (GMT)
    • As a general rule, real world jungles don't burn terribly well, although there are a few notable exceptions (such as the Indonesian forest fires in 1997-98). Grasslands, however, burn quite regularly, and in fact such fires are necessary for the good health of the grass. Fire kills off sapling trees in the area which would otherwise grow to the point that they overshadowed and killed the grass. I don't know whether the game has any grasslands large enough to make this kind of thing interesting, though. --Jackdaw 15:55, 25 March 2006 (GMT)

Planting/agriculture

Both outsiders and natives with this skill should be able to plant trees (mango, banana) on fertile land. By clearing away jungle, and applying an example of the fruit of the tree you wish to plant, you could sow the seed. A tree of that type would then sprout X days later. This would open up for plantation, and help feed the villages/settlements. --DKChannelboredom (2 March)

Comments

Interesting idea, perhaps only a chance that a tree will grow, and to ensure a tree grows you have to plant a certain number of fruit of the same kind on the same block. Of course, does this mean that existing trees should occasionally die off, say if they get surrounded by 8 blocks of highest density jungle and the tree block is also highest density jungle.. maybe explained as something to do with lack of sunlight reaching the tree because of the amount of jungle around it. --Simon 09:47, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
Why not treat existing trees and planted trees separately? My initial thought is that if I did not have this skill, I would still like the opportunity to gather resources from a dependable source. --Lint 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
There is now an extensive farm north of York, which makes me thing that players would like to engage in some sort of agricultural production. Rather than limit it to mangoes and bananas, why not have other tropical fruits (pineapples, guavas and pawpaws) and even outsider staples like potatoes and spinach? - FirstAmongstDaves
Just for the lulz, it should be allowed to plant bushes or trees which only grows poisonous fruits, one for natives and one for outsiders, unidentifiable without native/outsider knowledge respectively. Otherwise, to add a little twist, maybe for plants with real poisonous parts (potatoes anyone) might confuse the other faction (here: natives) and trick them into harvesting those unless they have outsider knowledge. --Baliame 15:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
There is now a farm just south of the Shipwreck Also, Maintained by ESHC that spans in all directions with Vineyards and Trails--Bloodclott 04:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Forum threads discussing agriculture:

--Buttercup 07:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

As of December 2008, Planting/Agriculture was the top voted feature on Feature Votes with 34 votes. --Johan Crichton 05:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Religious Devotion

Required to use "Holy Scriptures" --One of many doctors 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)

Comments


Fire

How about fire for torches? Fire could also:

1. be used on the jungle ("You set fire to the surrounding jungle, causing smoke to billow into the sky." The square could turn orange and then red as it was burned, then finally brown once it burned out),

2. be used as campfires for villages and the wreck,

3. light caves, for increased search rates ("You light a torch and it illuminates the cave. Shadows cast from flying bats give the cave an eery appearance.")

4. burn opponents, ("You hit Long Fin Killie in the face with a torch for 3HP damage.") or huts (""You set the hut on fire and the inhabitants each suffer 1HP loss from smoke inhalation.")

5. scare away wild animals like tigers, which might not approach a torch.

I also like the idea of driftwood being set ablaze with a flint of some description - a sharpening stone is a good idea - and also putting out fire with water. Perhaps you could not step into a river or the water with a lit torch - the torch would fizzle out (which would also prevent some smartie from setting fire to the shipwreck).

Fire might also be visible from a distance. "You see a column of smoke to the north east."

And, as a gag, if you drink rum while holding a torch then you breath fire.

FirstAmongstDaves

"You take a swig of rum and put your face up to the torch. You exale the rum into the fire, and a large jet of flame comes out of the other side of the torch." or even, "You take a swig of rum and put your face up to the torch. You exale the rum into the fire, and a large jet of flame comes out of the other side of the torch. However, you did not do it right and the flame singes your face for X hit points!" -A Cow

That would be amusing, if pointless, like the coin-toss. - FirstAmongstDaves
To be realistic, huts, jungle, or similar things should burn down and spread. burning areas would turn orange, then red, and would turn normal when there was nothing left to burn. Every AP recharge or so, the jungle would go down one level, a signpost if there was any would burn away, all people and animals would take X damage from various reasons (most animals would flee though), and huts or similar things would go down in levels ("slightly charred/ rather burned/ badly burned/collapsing/burnt ruins/nothing left but the foundation) which would have gradually decreasing search odds, and the last two would have the huts not be entered/exited areas, there would be no difference between inside and outside. The fire would have an X% chance of spreading into a touching square that wasn't burning or completely burnt down. There would have to be some way to put out or contain the fire to prevent the entire island from having all vegetation going to 0, all huts burning down (maybe a "hut repair" skill?), and all people and NPCs dying and having to wait for a shaman to come back before they can every time some guy sets something on fire. Maybe spreading from square to square would have a low chance and fuel consumption happens fast, so a fire will often burn down before it spreads. Or you could have player-imposed limitations by keeping a circle or part of one around an area totally clear of jungle and, if people comply with policy, players and signs. If you put it right at the edge and on the inside, animals wouldn't go in for whatever reason, so... a maniac trying to burn down the island would need a second torch if they used the first one on the village and the other villages still wouldn't be destroyed. Okay, by itself that wouldn't help much, but with the low spread/high burn and make it easy to put out with water and we've got some vague balance. --AlexanderRM 01:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Flintlock Pistols

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Rozen 02:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC) New Item and Set of Skill to go along with it Whoever can shoot a gun

Mechanics

  • Half the inventory space of the rifle
  • 1 shot loading
  • .5 AP to load. (or skill to make it so)
  • 4 damage
  • Find in the Shipwreck's Armoury and (with less chance) the Large Cabin.
  • Also find in outsider camp's ammo hut with the same chance as in the Large Cabin.
  • Ammo is more likely to be found in 'purses' of three. eg, 'Looking around you find a purse of three flintlock balls'

Roleplay and realism

  • Soldiers who roleplay would prefer to carry them instead of the dozen rifles they now cary. In real life, you can realisticly carry eight flintlocks and a rifle. (Two in the boots, two on the shins, two on the thighs, and two under the arms with a rifle in hand).
  • Pirates have always been seen with cutalss and one-shot pistol in hand.

Skills

  • No Skill- 5% chance of hitting your target
  • Pistol Marksmanship(Soldiers and Pirates)- Plus 20% chance to hit your target with a Flintlock Pistol
  • Advanced Pistol Marksmanship- Plus another 20% chance to hit your targetwith a Flintlock Pistol
  • Hunter Marksman (Scouts with outsider knowledge and Explorers)- Plus another 20% chance to hit your target with a Flintlock.
  • Flintlock Mastery- Plus 15% chance to hit your target with Flintlock Pistol
  • Quickshot- Loading costs .5 AP

Comments
Original idea by Rozen. Wiki-fied by Che

I'd like to get some fresh comments about this. I have the old comments saved in case anyone wants to look...I just want to see what Shartak: The Next Generation thinks of this, you know :P --Rozen 22:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd really like to see this become a reality Rob. I would suggest it only be available at the shipwreck though. The only reason I can think of, as to why Simon hasn't introduced a firearm for Pirates so far, is that he wants Pirates to stay focused on bladed weapons, or at least, not favouring firearms over bladed weapons. But I'm only guessing here. Wild guessing at that ;) Anyways, if that were the case, I would make the hit% the same as using a cutlass/machete. 45% but with an extra point of damage. --Cthulhu


Flint & Tinder

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Skull Face 17:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC) New Item All classes

This suggestion is for a new item, a flint and tinder box for the creation of fires. This item would be found by searching empty huts in camps or the cabins at the shipwreck.

Comments
Comment here

Flintlock

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Skull Face Skull Face 12:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC) New Item All classes

This suggestion is for a new item, the flintlock pistol, a black powder weapon from the pirate era, found only at the shipwreck, the ruined armoury NE of Durham and the tower on Midway Island.

The flintlock would take up 2 inventory slots. Base hit chance for all classes would be 20% (45% with Black Powder Proficiency) delivering 4 HP damage on a successful attack. The flintlock would be a 1 shot weapon requiring 2 APs to prime with a powder charge (1 AP with Black Powder Proficiency), 1 AP to load with 1 lead balls and 1 AP to fire. When loaded and carried through a water square each flintlock would have a 50% chance of being soaked and the powder ruined - the item description would change to a useless flintlock. Such a weapon would have to cleaned using 2 APs (1 AP with Black Powder Proficiency) and the ammo added back to the user's inventory before the flintlock could be primed again. When used there is a small chance that a misfire (e.g. 95%-100%) would destroy the weapon and cause 4 HP damage to the user c.f. breaking machetes.

Comments
This is not as good as a maxed machete because of the high AP cost. I don't want tons of useless items like that in shartak like they have in hellrising so NO.

It's not meant to be as good as a maxed out machete. You are missing the point. Powder weapons are intended for pirates with Black Powder Proficiency. That skill and the powder weapons would not make pirates superior to Soldiers or Warriors but it would give them additional options and RP flavour. From POV of AP usage vs damage inflicted, using the skill with multiple pistols would make a Pirate slightly more effective in combat (36 HP for 20 APs vs 30 HP for 20 APs) than solely with a cutlass and maxed HTH skills, but only until all their pistols are discharged. This fits nicely with the image of a volley of lead from pre-primed weaponry followed by HTH combat. Availability of powder and balls is deliberately kept problematic. Along with misfire chances this would keep these new weapons from flooding the market too quickly.--Skull Face 12:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Pistols found in Shipwreck

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Fauzii 11:00 August 13, 2011 Balance the availability of Pistols Pirates

Pirates have it a bit rough in this game. That is part of the fun for sure: No one seems to like them. But their class specific skill of Pistol Training isn't much good considering how hard it is to find Pistols. If they have the ability to be specialists in Pistols wouldn't they have some on their OWN ship? I have spent almost the entirety of my time in game LOOKING for the ghost ship and I have never seen it. Then I wander into a village to resupply and someone throws a fit and kills me (with a rifle) for searching for FAKs. If I at least had a pistol... OOOH! Then they'd be sorry!

Comments
I agree that one should be able to find pistols in a fixed location, or at least the bullets. Still, pirates need a reason to raid the ghost ship. Perhaps a charm that lowers pistol breakage chance and instead has a chance to break itself?

Absinth

Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as "Bottle of absinth" (in addition to the existing "Bottle of beer" and "Bottle of water"). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --Mad Robert 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)

  • No reason to drink it then? --Grigoriy 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
    • I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --Mad Robert 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)
  • The whole "distortion of game display" thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location ("As the effects of the See tabsinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle."). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these "strange herbs" would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. — Elembis 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)

When found/bought/clicked, it should say, "You search/bought/see and find absinth. It's probably not safe to drink." I've never heard of absinth before, and wouldn't want to end up with a bunch of weird effects when I thought it was just another kind of booze. Adding "It's probably not safe to drink." should clear up the confusion. When you take it, it should say, "You feel really weird, and things don't seem normal right now. This should wear off in an hour or two."

Maybe a different effect? For the next however many hours clicking "move" sometimes moves you in a random direction, speaking jumbles some of your words, you can't aim straight, and searching turns up pink elephants? --Buttercup 01:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I read up on absinth. It IS booze. Geeze, and here I thought it was some kind of hallucinogen the way you were talking. --Buttercup 08:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it's quite intense being normally around the 70% alcohol percentage. It contains Thujone, which was reportedly responsible for hallucinations. Oh, and it doesn't cause hallucinations. I drink it and to be quite frank, anything around 70% that is drunk in suitable quantities would cause many a vision. Good stuff :)--Cthulhu 08:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah good old Absinthe, the nasty stuff is about 90% (not legal in most countries) and indeed it is not hallucinogenic but comes very close when you are blind drunk. Perhaps it should cure poison but reduce your accuracy for several ap (if you can survive a bottle of 90% absinthe then you can survive pretty much any other poison).--Etherdrifter 19:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've heard of that 90% stuff. Gotta get a bottle for myself :) I do like the cure poison suggestion, but I suspect there is something else that helps deal with poison ;)--Cthulhu 06:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Cross References:

--Buttercup 12:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Tunnels

Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.

Comments

How do you know they don't exist? :) Dr. J
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places. --Tycho44 06:43, 8 June 2006 (BST)
With the addition of the island of Rakmogak, the game gained numerous underground tunnels leading to interesting places. --Johan Crichton 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Inventory Limit

I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --Lint 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

  • The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --Simon 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)
  • Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --Lint 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)
    • "is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --Tycho44 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)
      • <Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --Tycho44 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --Tycho44 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)
  • See the last list item at The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts. — Elembis (talk) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)
  • Still needed/wanted or is the greasemonkey script sufficient? Would this change if, for example, backpacks or some other means of carrying extra items was implemented? Inventory size: 23/90 --Simon 12:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
    • It would be nice to have an official inventory counter mechanic as I believe the script is based on a handful of assumptions (inventory size for all classes is 71, gold coins are weightless, ranged weapons have weight of 2 units) and will require testing and updating whenever a new item is added. --Lint 19:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok, this has been added...
<span class="invsize">36 / 70</span>

but the invsize style is set to display:none by default - override it to get it to display alongside the inventory header. --Simon 21:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The option to have inventory displayed as been part of the game for some time. --Johan Crichton 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Breakable weapons

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Black Joe 10:25, 19 July 2006 Weapon alteration All weapons

I'd like to propose that all weapons break occassionally. At the moment, cutlasses and machetes do, but I don't think any other weapons do. This means that there is a surplus of rifles and blowpipes on the island, as they continue to be produced, but are never destroyed. It makes perfect sense for a rifle or blowpipe to break (poor handling or poor workmanship?). Additionally, once someone acquires a heavy sword, it is theirs permanently (to my knowledge). If it was breakable, it would be both more realistic and less unbalancing. That being said, the very name "heavy sword" implies that it is strongly built, so perhaps it should have a significantly lower chance of breaking than a machete or cutlass.

Comments

  • Also take a look at Suggestions:Items, where there is a Remove Uber Sword of Doom (aka Heavy Sword) discussion. If I recall correctly, both Simon and Jones Dye have implied that heavy swords do break. I'm not sure why the name "heavy sword" suggests anything other than the sword weighing a lot. Whether it breaks a little or a lot, the heavy sword is still by far the best item in the game, and would still be superior even if it did 1 less damage and broke with normal frequency. Rifles and blowpipes are common - it would be fine for them to have a slight breakage chance. --Tycho44 16:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • To me, heavy implies it's either thick or otherwise stronger. However, that's just my personal take on it, and it's not really a major point. My main suggestion is that any weapon should have a chance of breaking. Otherwise, there will be a surplus. Incidentally, I saw the "Uber Sword of Doom" entry, but given that this covers all weapons, I thought it best to create a separate topic. Thank you for your input, by the way. - Black Joe
  • I agree weapons should break occasionally, but I especially would like to see machetes and knives dull with use more often (I dont know if I have ever personally had this happen [though I've heard it does happen], and I've been playing for nearly 7 months), thereby changing your machete into a blunt machete (there arent blunt knives/blunt cutlasses in the game, as far as i know. maybe there should be). Rifles should occasionally explode, too, destroying the weapon and giving you 10 damage or something. Those old-fashioned rifles would occassionally do that. Arminius 00:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
As of late 2008, for some time now blowpipes and rifles have been known to become blocked and useless. --Johan Crichton 09:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Clan News

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Tomn 02:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC) Clan Organization All clans

Pretty simple idea; an in-clan news system that functions like the "Game News" system. Keeps clan members informed of any changes, updates, and so on without forcing them to check the forums, a wiki, or to meet the leaders personally. If server load is a problem (I dunno if it would be, but...), you could perhaps have a minimum amount of active players in the clan for news to work, or have a limit on how much news remains in the archives; for instance, only five news items at any time, with new, er, news deleting the oldest news..

Comments
I really like this idea, as it gives clan leaders the opportunity to bring a message to his clan's members.
Message boards and Wiki pages can be used to do the same, but many people don't check those, so in-game messaging would be much more effective. --0000FF Beard 08:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this would be rather useful, with no ill side-effects. Two thumbs up! Blahmicho 19:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
This would really help people remember there clans and keep them more active, maybe leading to bigger real-time battles or more people after the hide of a squid. A very good idea. Edwardel 19:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Another agreement from this user. Very useful for communicating with non-forumers without tracking them all over Shartak.--Broderick 02:38, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I throw all my support behind this suggestion. I've been calling for some sort of clan messaging but have never made an effort to put it here, where it matters. We need this! :)--Cthulhu 05:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Deadwood

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Skull Face 17:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC) New Item All classes

This suggestion is for a new (sort of) item, dead wood branches. Dead wood would be found only in Jungle squares containing trees (density 5 or higher) or inside empty huts in camps. Each dead wood branch would occupy 1 inventory slot and function as driftwood.

Comments
This has been implemented as of late 2008. Deadwood can be bought at traders, and found in the jungle. --Johan Crichton 10:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Implemented&oldid=23561"