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My 'agenda' is to try and continue this conflict (I am having more fun than at any other point in this game) and to make it fun for both parties. I would rather not have a convincing 'victory' for either side and hope to be able to maintain a balance of power. Limiting the scope of our conflict to the island itself is an in-game mechanism, providing a neutral wiki entry so that both very non-neutral pages can be maintained '''may''' be another. However, I recognise that the wiki may not be a suitable place for this sort of conflict, and that even with both parties behaving themselves it could easily spill over to the sort of 'wiki-wars' that other sites have seen. I submit this entry, then, both for criticism of content, and also of intent. [[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 03:14, 5 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan  Freelance
 
My 'agenda' is to try and continue this conflict (I am having more fun than at any other point in this game) and to make it fun for both parties. I would rather not have a convincing 'victory' for either side and hope to be able to maintain a balance of power. Limiting the scope of our conflict to the island itself is an in-game mechanism, providing a neutral wiki entry so that both very non-neutral pages can be maintained '''may''' be another. However, I recognise that the wiki may not be a suitable place for this sort of conflict, and that even with both parties behaving themselves it could easily spill over to the sort of 'wiki-wars' that other sites have seen. I submit this entry, then, both for criticism of content, and also of intent. [[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 03:14, 5 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan  Freelance
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== A proposal for community-determined islet names ==
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I recommend that we designate this talk page to be used by all members of the wiki to submit naming proposals for the five islets on the map as well as comments on said proposals. (One of the other islets is [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/closeup.php?cx=-70401&cy=26270&dn=1 just south of York], and the other is [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/closeup.php?cx=-70092&cy=26336&dn=1 just south of Derby].) The [[Royal Expedition]] and the [[Discordian Cargo Cult]] will be notified on their talk pages; other groups and individuals can be notified as each of us sees fit. At a certain time (00:00, June 1, 2006 (UTC) is what I have in mind), proposals will be frozen and voting will open for all users. Eligible voters (anyone who linked to their character's profile in their User page before this post was submitted, or whose character profile links to their User page) will vote according to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method Condorcet method]. After a week votes will be counted (with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borda_count Borda count] breaking all ties) and the winning proposal will become the community standard.
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This sounds excessively formal, but I don't think it will be in practice, and I think it's the best way for the community to name the islets. Thoughts? — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 20:51, 21 May 2006 (BST)

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Name of Island

I would go a step further and attempt to agree upon a name for the island. Both names clearly have their flaws, so a new name should be drawn out to appease both parties, as well as the Shartak community as a whole. I'm not sure what the best way to do this would be: possibly a week or so of suggestions, and then another week of polls? I think the end goal would be to a have a name recognized by all clans of Shartak. On a side note, I thought it was an RE member who made the suggestion that an island existed based on the map of Shartak / Hispanola? --Gandhi 02:57, 5 May 2006 (BST)

I really like the neutrality presented in this article. No one can really disagree that these islands aren't located on the west and that there are three of them. I also like having the freedom for creating new names. But I won't object for a note in the article to state which is the most commonly agreed upon name. --Lint 03:31, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Edit: I suppose it helps to spell the island properly. --Lint 22:20, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Shartak / Hispaniola.

  • MetaMap project (???) - By the way, anyone else think the island of Shartak looks like Hispaniola?
  • Kurtz (March 18, 2006) - Just as a heads up, the outline map of the island is in the game logo (and it is based on a map of Hispaniola - Haiti and the Dominican Republic), so if you can find a coastline you can probably work out roughly where you are.
  • Sir Charles Highgate (April 7, 2006) - It was just a picture off the internet of the island Shartak is based on.

explanation / invitation

This is an attempt at a NPOV article that can be linked to from the rest of the wiki. I have included links to both La Islet Bonobo and Shark Island rather than trying to summate both. I would hope that this will let both parties continue to play out the classic colonial conflict of discovery and naming.

Both groups are named once in full, and once by abbreviation. There is a single link/reference to each page. I have tried to balance references to the area-in-question as both islet and island.

I welcome comments, additions and criticism from any interested parties and acknowlege my subjectivity as both a member of the Royal Expedition and 'involved party'.

My 'agenda' is to try and continue this conflict (I am having more fun than at any other point in this game) and to make it fun for both parties. I would rather not have a convincing 'victory' for either side and hope to be able to maintain a balance of power. Limiting the scope of our conflict to the island itself is an in-game mechanism, providing a neutral wiki entry so that both very non-neutral pages can be maintained may be another. However, I recognise that the wiki may not be a suitable place for this sort of conflict, and that even with both parties behaving themselves it could easily spill over to the sort of 'wiki-wars' that other sites have seen. I submit this entry, then, both for criticism of content, and also of intent. Anothertwilight 03:14, 5 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance

A proposal for community-determined islet names

I recommend that we designate this talk page to be used by all members of the wiki to submit naming proposals for the five islets on the map as well as comments on said proposals. (One of the other islets is just south of York, and the other is just south of Derby.) The Royal Expedition and the Discordian Cargo Cult will be notified on their talk pages; other groups and individuals can be notified as each of us sees fit. At a certain time (00:00, June 1, 2006 (UTC) is what I have in mind), proposals will be frozen and voting will open for all users. Eligible voters (anyone who linked to their character's profile in their User page before this post was submitted, or whose character profile links to their User page) will vote according to the Condorcet method. After a week votes will be counted (with the Borda count breaking all ties) and the winning proposal will become the community standard.

This sounds excessively formal, but I don't think it will be in practice, and I think it's the best way for the community to name the islets. Thoughts? — Elembis 20:51, 21 May 2006 (BST)