Talk:Royal Expedition/Archive

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Old Comments

not sure if this is the best place for it, but ... have you noticed that on the main page, the title graphic has a map behind the word 'Shartak' and that where the 'S' most closely appraches the 'h' the bend obscures what appears to be an island. While the details of clan membership and structure are still being hammered out, it strikes me that investigating said island seems to fit the 'Expedition' part of RE. It may even prove a useful area to base a clan. I am going to strike out to see what I can find. Starting in Durham (which I think is somewhere on the east-pointing spit of land beneath the 'S') I am heading NE until I pick up the coast. -- Morgan Freelance aka Anothertwilight 12:49, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

I have made it to the island and am moving around the coastline before exploring the interior. If I find no sign of any other Outsiders I will cut an 'RE' into the jungle closest to the 'mainland' shore -- Morgan Freelance aka Anothertwilight 09:42, 26 February 2006 (GMT)

Island mapped (details added to the Shartak MetaMap project. I am abandoning my original plan to blaze 'RE' into the jungle and will probably simply continue to try and expand the general map -- Morgan Freelance aka Anothertwilight

I guess I'll claim the island for Royal Expedition then. --Grigoriy 02:44, 14 March 2006 (GMT)

It's been six days, but I think I'm swimming right off the coast of the island. --Grigoriy 02:06, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

Did you have to go through any deep water? Sharks have already taken me below half HP. --Grigoriy 01:56, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

Ah, I've found it! There seems to be an abundance of wildlife, did you find any ruins or bushes? --Grigoriy 12:43, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

I went through deep water the first time (had a FAK, so I was OK). I am now trying to see if I can get there through shallows only (although I have 2 FAKS just to be sure). I found no ruins, bushes, nor many animals. Anothertwilight 22:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

I died, so the island still isn't entirly mapped :( --Grigoriy 02:37, 27 March 2006 (BST)

If anyone's in the Derby area, I'm currently forging a road north, if anyone wants to lend a hand. I figure it'll be useful to have paths through the jungle, especially for those of us as prone to getting lost as I am... --Less Than Lethal

I'm in the Derby armory, I'm up for helping build a road, its more useful than just killing random jungle like I was doing, my names M Tek. -BananaBear 04:00, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

Awesome, I look forawrds to meeting you. There's another guy cutting the path ahead, im currently binging on bananas after an unfortunate boar incident... DavidClements 03

Not to rain on your parades, but you do know that foilage grows back, right?--Jackel 01:22, 12 March 2006 (GMT)

Oh man, I totally had no clue, oh.. oh man.. I'm so disillusioned. PSIKE! the jungle may grow back, but who found a sweet mango tree off the new road? -BananaBear 01:54, 12 March 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, but we can just keep cutting it back as we go back and forth for supplies, right? Even with light undergrowth the path is visible, so anyone using it can chop back offending branches to keep the way clear! And besides, I gotta do something with my free time... -- Less Than Lethal

I've managed to contact one of the natives! See discussion page for more details... -- Less Than Lethal

I'm working on clearing up most of the map. I'll try to post it as soon as possible. --One of many doctors 03:08, 27 February 2006 (GMT)

We should start recruiting in the Outsider villages; possibly start carving recruitment signs into trees. We should also formulate a formal policy on Pirates (whether their looting-ways will be tolerated as part of the Royal Expedition) --Gandhi 00:47, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

Good idead. I'll head back to York and start recruiting. As for pirates, they don't really bother me but I can't see the harm in excluding them either. --One of many doctors 01:13, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

Pirates really are such dreadfully uncivilised people. Surely we have a duty to keep this island free of uncouth folk? --Less Than Lethal

Who thinks we should have a clan forum for discussion of plans, status, warnings and pleas for help, etc? I know a guy who would probably host one for us. --Less Than Lethal

I could start one at any time but there would have to be interest first. --One of many doctors 00:09, 29 March 2006 (BST)

Well it would be a lot easier to organise, plus we could keep this page clear for our public front/recruitment/whatever. --LTL

I'm for a forum, but I think we should move these comments to the talk page and establish a clan mission first. --Gandhi 01:02, 31 March 2006 (BST)

Forum

Took it upon myself to make one. It can be foundhere. I also moved the comments to clean up our frontpage. Active members of this clan are welcome to become administrators. Just apply. —unsigned by One of many doctors 01:35, March 31, 2006 (UTC)

A Threat from the Disciples of Zeko and/or the Discordian Cargo Cult

actually just the Discordian Cargo Cult, but we've offered an alliance to the Disciples of Zeko, so if they accept they're threatening you too. Stay offf the island. Offf the west coast. Of Shartak. We claimed it first, so just go claim somewhere else. Or join us or die. Your choice. —unsigned by Oulatek 02:32, April 6, 2006 (UTC)

With Morgan Freelance being the first one to claim reaching the island, and me being the first one to carve into the island it's rightful ownership, this is an insult to our honor! --Grigoriy 13:57, 6 April 2006 (BST)

Join us or die? How about you join us! --One of many doctors 00:09, 7 April 2006 (BST)

Savage members of the Cult should be on warning: Members of the Royal Expedition do not plan to instigate any attacks on your villages or people; however, if any of your disciples attack a memeber of the Expedition, we will respond in full force as a group. --Gandhi 01:22, 7 April 2006 (BST)

Just how do the CC think they even became aware of the island? It was mapped by Grigoriy and I. I am willing to wait and see what the rest of RE want to do (cede claim to the island to CC, allow anyone to 'develop' the land without ceding title, retain title and defend against incursion ...) but am heading over to the island now to have a look for any CC members Anothertwilight 03:56, 7 April 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance

We found it by looking at a map of Hispaniola, mister highhorse! -Oulatek 21:21, 29 April 2006 (BST)

And you identified the island as bearing an uncanny resemblance to Hispaniola at what point? After a fair chunk (including the islet) was mapped, or from the 'Shartak' graphic? And I'm infantry, not cavalry. Anothertwilight 01:17, 1 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance.

Well, having been attacked by the cultists, we have of course responded in kind, and seem to have slain their despicable leader. Let this be a lesson to you all!

We have a learning disability. I expect this lesson will have to be repeated quite a bit. And don't expect us to not dish out some lessons of our own! -Oulatek 21:21, 29 April 2006 (BST)

IMPORTANT: Evidence of DCC member Oulatek killing RE member Morgan Freelance WITHOUT a justified cause:Evidence Her Majesty has approved the use of unrestrictive force against the DCC - Shoot Members on sight! These unprovoked killing must be stopped! TO ARMS! --Gandhi 22:21, 29 April 2006 (BST)

We reject your claim that we were unprovoked. Freelance's killing of Oulatek was the first hostile act in this entire conflict. Does he deny it?? -Oulatek 18:44, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Not at all. You made it clear that anyone found on the islet would be killed if they did not join. I was on the islet (being it's discoverer), I did not join. Your declaration was clear. I accepted your terms Anothertwilight 00:19, 2 May 2006 (BST)

The Despicable Cargo Cult (DCC) have offered a limited field of engagement - to whit, that given that the Western Islet (called by those foul depraved ... Frenchmen 'La Islet Bonobo') is the subject of contention, that hostilities be restricted to said region. Rather than risk civilians and innocent bystanders, I would be happy to accept such terms. If others are so inclined, we may wish to update the front page. Anothertwilight 01:13, 1 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance

We cultists are not interested in killing anyone except on La Islet Bonobo, which is, in fact, the name of the Islet in question, as you foul unFrenchmen were not clever enough to think of naming it first!!! So let's confine our little war to the islet itself, as Freelance suggests. -Oulatek 18:44, 1 May 2006 (BST)

I note that while you are happy to address (even to edit) two of my recent comments, you omit defending the challenge to your claim of having been first to the islet. Please describe how you determined that the larger island resembled Hispaniola, and hence determined, from that, the existence of the smaller islet. For comparison, feel free to re-read the old comments, below, for my discovery - including date Anothertwilight 00:19, 2 May 2006 (BST)

First TO the islet, first to CLAIM the islet, first to NAME the islet... these are different questions. The islet has already been named. It is called La Islet Bonobo. Discordians say a lot of silly things, like "join us or die." The fact is, YOU are the first to shed blood. Admit it. Accept it. Become one with your bloodthirsty imperial nature. Then we can be friends. In all honesty, we (the two of us) were seriously considering abandoning DCC and joining RE. But then you killed me. So we decided to play war. We hope you are having fun. -Oulatek 04:53, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Yes they are different questions, just as 'it is called' and 'I call it' have two different meanings, one more precise than the other. I not only admit, I proudly declare my bloodthirsty Imperial nature. The island was first visited and first claimed for HRH and I will proudly defend it to the last drop of ... er, with my life ... um, until I get really, really bored of having to go back to Durham to be resurrected. And given the paucity of things to do, I rather enjoyed the early 'letters skirmish' and now this burgeoning war. Anothertwilight 05:56, 2 May 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance

New Comments

Hello there Royal Expedition, this is Mick here. Are you still interested in working together? You seem like a friendly bunch, and It'd be good to have contacts outside York. We look forward to doing buisiness with you. - MickR May 10th, 2006

Can somebody post targets for expeditions on the page, if they have any? I was helping make a road, and then it turned west and I got confused... Also it would help publicize a little bit. -BananaBear 04:29, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

Ah yes, I remember passing you a few days back, old chap. Me and the valiant M-Tek are forging that road west vaguely towards the savage's settlement of Wiksik, with occasional help from a silent and mysterious mr Smith. I'm sure I speak for both of us when I encourage you to join us in this worthy endeavour.

At the time of writing, I believe we are drawing near to the village, and I have left the road to converse with a local. Having declared my allegeance and peacable intentions, I eagerly await his response. --Less Than Lethal

To all those cutting the road from derby, I would advise you to watch out for the natives, I was just killed by one. I will attempt to contact the Local Shaman, and rejoin the part.-BananaBear 04:38, 28 March 2006 (BST)

Dear lord, some fool just slew the native I was contacting! There'll be war if this sort of behaviour continues! --Less Than Lethal

My good sir, I think these natives may have declared war upon us, I do hope you've managed to stay alive, though I haven't seen you lately, and the road seems all but abandoned. I've been on the run in the jungle for a few nights now, When I don't wake up floating over my body that is. -BananaBear 00:36, 3 April 2006 (BST)

It is no war that was declared upon you, but indeed, Less than Lethal was stunned by my poison darts and had to serve as sacrifice for the initial gathering of the WickSick Headhunters! Anyway, we thank you for this road, as it brings many well shaped heads to Wiksik! You may traffic with the Wiksikans in every way you want, just beware you meet none of those who went 'WickSick'... --Foo Fighter 17:24, 5 April 2006 (BST)

Ahem, on another, non-WickSick note - the Anthropological Society on Shartak Issues is proud to cooperate with the Royal Expedition. We are can not give out stipends yet, but are eager to hear your findings in nicely prepared essays! --Foo Fighter 17:24, 5 April 2006 (BST)

With regard the disputed 'Western Island/Islet', if I could turn your attention to the UBER map - the letters RE have now been blazed in the jungle. Perhaps someone would care to suggest a name? Anothertwilight 02:03, 13 April 2006 (BST) aka Morgan Freelance

The Mountaineers

As fellow explorers with a hatred for those bloody savages scattered about the island like so many animals, we of the Mountaineers (and, by that, I mean "I," since, at present, I'm the one Mountaineer) greet you all and offer partnership. While I know your focus is on the islands, I'm sure that many of you are also curious about the mountain. Perhaps some of your number would be interested in preserving the mountain and protecting her from the foul savages. Any such individuals would be welcome in the Mountaineers (and, as is said on the page, they need not leave the RE). They won't find me there now, though, if they go looking; I'm making a supply run.--Wifey 20:28, 15 May 2006 (BST)

War Board

Our troops are in need to health and reinforcements to secure Shark Island. Any RE members or allies with First Aid and/or FAQs to spare, please head to Shark Island Immediately!
Need supplies? Head to either the Shipwreck or York to stock up.
Not an RE member but want to join the fight against all evil doers across Shartak? Head to Shark Island and meet with an RE representative and join the fight for justice!
—unsigned by One of many doctors 01:15, May 25, 2006

Denial of Eminem's application to join the RE

The follow has been rectracted: While I'm not an RE member, I'm somewhat disappointed to see that the request of Eminem (AKA Riddick) to join the expedition has been denied (see [1]) due to "zerging, forum trolling, and wiki abuse" (the latter being epitomized by this edit). While I am certainly not excusing his offenses, I think he's learned from his mistakes, and I recommend that he be readopted into the RE as a probationary member so that he will have a chance to redeem himself with good behavior. That's exactly the course I would take if I had a clan, and I think it would speak highly of the RE if they showed themselves willing to forgive him in the name of the Queen while still watching him closely for a while.

Whether or not this request is granted, I'm sure we could do a better job here on the wiki of writing down unwritten rules so that other newbies don't make the same (or other) irritating mistakes. — Elembis (talk) 04:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

We were also worried by his declaration, on the CP forums, that he was going to takeover Shark Island via a 'military style plan', and rename it 'Killer Island', and kill everyone who ventured there. This was immediately followed by his application to join the clan, with the slightly bizarre declaration that he "love[s] SHARK ISLAND!". As Minister of Military Affairs, I felt concerned by this development, and it was one of the main reasons I sugested refusing him entry to the clan. -- Less Than Lethal 17:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I guess you're talking about this 21 July post of his. I understand perfectly why you've denied his application and I hereby retract my recommendation that he be made a probationary member. Thanks for the informative response. — Elembis (talk) 20:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)