User talk:Neil Tathers

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Welcome to the Shartak Wiki!

In case you've missed it, the 'Show preview' button allows you to preview your changes before you save - allowing you to make a number of minor changes in a single 'save page', which would be appreciated.

If you're uploading pictures, please respect the Wiki policy against uploading copyrighted materials. --Cheesesteak 21:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Keep up the good work. You're Shartak's Wiki guru, as well as its master storyteller. --Sizzu 21:00, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the date on the Kingdom of Wiksik Map page! --Anthor 00:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletions

Neil, there's a template for deletion suggestions - Template:Delete - if there are pages you think aren't needed, just add the template to those pages. --Johan Crichton 19:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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Explain

So you've revised my changes. As a newcomer to Shartak coming over from other games, I changed that part of the wiki as the start of a slow change to the whole thing. I respect that the fiction is older than my time here, which is why I didn't simply wipe it out, but having character names in it makes the whole game look full of themselves from a new arrival's perspective. As I don't wish to see the whole game sunk due to this (I had encouragement to try it despite that rather poor first impression) I sought to repair it to that the names in the fiction are more generic and accurately describe the skill (I've seen a handful which don't actually match the skill's effect).

Now, to hear the other side of things, can you tell me why I should not do this? I'd rather not have an edit-war with you. Shadok 12:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining why you did what you did. Most people wouldn't have bothered and tried to have an edit war. The reason why I had placed names in there was a nod to older characters of the game, and give them some respect for what they had brought. I never saw it as a putdown for newer players, and in fact I've had some new players say they enjoyed that aspect quite a bit. Several people have told me how they were excited that they found these actual characters in game. Which makes me curious as to why you think it makes us look full of ourselves for doing that? Seeing as I spent alot of time on those skill pages, I found it kinda insulting that you went in and changed it like that without discussing it first with me.

The last thing I would want to do is to deter new players, but I honestly don't see how having names in a sentence or two is deterrent in any way, shape or form. Now is skill specs are wrong, which some of them have been, I have no problem with people correcting that, or even their own clan pages. I don't mess with those, only clean them up if the clan is old and has some formatting issues in their page.

We could pose this question to the community as a whole and see what they say on the forum. If a majority of people think it's a deterrent, then we can easily edit them.

I'm also curious to these other changes you say you want to implement, and how they will change the wiki on a whole.

~Neil Tathers