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==Search Odds Data Collection format== | ==Search Odds Data Collection format== | ||
− | My request for comments about using tables is the first section of [[Talk:Search | + | My request for comments about using tables is the first section of [[Talk:Search odds condensed]]. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:19, 31 May 2006 (BST) |
+ | :I noticed your confusion on [[Talk:Search odds condensed]]... What formats work for you to submit your data most easily? In my opinion, the longhand text format has continuing problems with inconsistent, incomplete, and/or inaccurate data entries, and a well-designed table could make data entry easier and more accurate. I think that a separate table for the Medical Hut (for example) would be very easy to submit to, since there are only half a dozen items found there. Your opinions are welcome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 07:16, 15 June 2006 (BST) | ||
== Special weapon event odds == | == Special weapon event odds == | ||
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− | ==Damage-to | + | ==Damage-to-AP ratio calculations== |
− | ''' | + | ===Proposal for new rifle skill tree=== |
+ | ''The marksmanship skills would be available to all, firearms training skills would continue to be available only to soldiers.''<br><br> | ||
+ | * Marksmanship – Gain 10% on firearms attacks<br> | ||
+ | ** Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks [thus with these two skills a non-soldier would have 50% accuracy]<br> | ||
+ | *** Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain proficiency in handling rifle [0.5 AP to load]<br> | ||
+ | **** Advanced Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain ''better'' proficiency in handling rifle [0 AP to load] | ||
+ | <br>OR<br><br> | ||
+ | * Marksmanship – Gain 10% on firearms attacks<br> | ||
+ | ** Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks<br><br> | ||
+ | * Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain proficiency in handling rifle [0.5 AP to load]<br> | ||
+ | ** Advanced Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain ''better'' proficiency in handling rifle [0 AP to load]<br><br> | ||
+ | ===Current Ratios=== | ||
''Soldiers''<br /> | ''Soldiers''<br /> | ||
− | 60 AP searching ammo hut (documented | + | 60 AP searching ammo hut ([[Search_odds_results#Ammo_Hut_.28Outsider.29|documented 23% bullet find rate]])<br /> |
− | --find | + | --find 14 bullets<br /> |
− | load | + | load 14 bullets in 14 AP<br /> |
− | Fire | + | Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (60% maximum accuracy)<br /> |
− | --Hit | + | --Hit 8.4 times at 5 damage = 42 damage inflicted in 88 AP = '''0.48 damage inflicted/total AP spent'''<br /> |
− | + | Combat ratio = 42 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = '''3.0 damage inflicted/AP spent ''in combat''''' | |
+ | <br><br> | ||
''Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging''<br /> | ''Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging''<br /> | ||
60 AP searching ammo hut<br /> | 60 AP searching ammo hut<br /> | ||
− | --find | + | --find 14 bullets (documented 23% bullet find rate)<br /> |
− | load | + | load 14 bullets in 14 AP<br /> |
− | Fire | + | Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (20% maximum accuracy)<br /> |
− | --Hit | + | --Hit 2.8 times at 5 damage = 14 damage inflicted in 88 AP = '''0.16 damage inflicted/total AP spent'''<br /> |
− | + | Combat ratio = 14 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = '''1.0 damage inflicted/AP spent ''in combat''''' | |
+ | <br><br> | ||
− | + | ===Ratios with the proposed skill tree=== | |
''Soldiers''<br /> | ''Soldiers''<br /> | ||
− | 60 AP searching ammo hut (documented | + | 60 AP searching ammo hut (documented 23% bullet find rate)<br /> |
− | --find | + | --find 14 bullets<br /> |
− | load | + | load 14 bullets in 0 AP (loading takes 0 AP with proposed skill)<br /> |
− | Fire | + | Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (70% maximum accuracy)<br /> |
− | --Hit | + | --Hit 9.8 times at 5 damage = 49 damage inflicted in 74 AP = '''0.66 damage inflicted/total AP spent'''<br /> |
− | + | Combat ratio = 49 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = '''3.5 damage inflicted/AP spent ''in combat''''' | |
+ | <br><br> | ||
''Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging''<br /> | ''Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging''<br /> | ||
− | 60 AP searching ammo hut (documented | + | 60 AP searching ammo hut (documented 23% bullet find rate)<br /> |
− | --find | + | --find 14 bullets<br /> |
− | load | + | load 14 bullets in 14 AP<br /> |
− | Fire | + | Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (50% maximum accuracy)<br /> |
− | --Hit | + | --Hit 7 times at 5 damage = 35 damage inflicted in 88 AP = '''0.40 damage inflicted/total AP spent'''<br /> |
− | + | Combat ratio = 35 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = '''2.5 damage inflicted/AP spent ''in combat''''' | |
− | + | <br><br> | |
− | '''For comparison:''' | + | '''For comparison:''' Machete with all relevant skills, combat ratio and total ratio (they are the same): '''1.35 damage/AP spent'''<br><br>--Note that the damage-per-total-AP-spent ratios above are artificially high, and in practice they would be lower. This is because the rifle damage-to-AP ratios do not take into account the inevitable AP spent travelling to and from ammunition huts to restock on bullets. |
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− | <br> | + | :::::''The above is a a supplement for the discussion on the proposed Marksmanship skill: [[Suggestions:Skills#Marksmanship]]''<br>-[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:34, 2 June 2006 (BST) |
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− | + | == Deletion proposals == | |
− | + | ||
− | + | I responded to your June 14 comment on [[Category talk:Delete#Redirects]] a while back, and I'd be interested to hear your response. I don't plan on deleting anything without a consensus, but I would like to know what you recommend as guidelines for deciding what should and shouldn't be deleted (if you think anything, even potential pages, should be deleted at all). — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 03:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC) | |
− | + | :I don't see why any of those redirects should be deleted. The more redirects, the better! [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 23:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 23:59, 26 August 2006
Thanks for getting our Shaman info back online. --Lint 10:04, 16 May 2006 (BST)
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You're right. Which is why I didn't link to Items#Bottle of beer. I linked to Items#Bottle of Beer.--Wifey 01:30, 18 May 2006 (BST) Edit: Now that's odd. Why does it work here, bu not on the redirect? I know it always used to work on the redirects...--Wifey 01:34, 18 May 2006 (BST)
Search Odds
- I agree with your suggestions for Class "codes" (i.e. simply putting the name in full).
- Also I'd request that you put complete info when you do searches (e.g. Medical Hut). Otherwise the detritus is hard to track, and it can be important: in the past two days I've picked up 3 GPS units from Medical Hut searches and I think that is due to a recent change (used to be 0% GPS in Medical Huts, imho).
- 400 ammo hut searches puts the non-scav find rate at 39.8% -- far enough away from 1-in-3 that I'm guessing 40% non-scav / 60% scav in Ammo Huts. --Tycho44 02:44, 18 May 2006 (BST)
Search Odds Data Collection format
My request for comments about using tables is the first section of Talk:Search odds condensed. --Tycho44 20:19, 31 May 2006 (BST)
- I noticed your confusion on Talk:Search odds condensed... What formats work for you to submit your data most easily? In my opinion, the longhand text format has continuing problems with inconsistent, incomplete, and/or inaccurate data entries, and a well-designed table could make data entry easier and more accurate. I think that a separate table for the Medical Hut (for example) would be very easy to submit to, since there are only half a dozen items found there. Your opinions are welcome. --Tycho44 07:16, 15 June 2006 (BST)
Special weapon event odds
I just created the page Special weapon event odds in the hopes that we'll be able to approximate odds for weapon breakage, dullage, and extra-damage-age as you and others have for searches. Any time you can invest in the project will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! — Elembis 12:03, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Damage-to-AP ratio calculations
Proposal for new rifle skill tree
The marksmanship skills would be available to all, firearms training skills would continue to be available only to soldiers.
- Marksmanship – Gain 10% on firearms attacks
- Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks [thus with these two skills a non-soldier would have 50% accuracy]
- Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain proficiency in handling rifle [0.5 AP to load]
- Advanced Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain better proficiency in handling rifle [0 AP to load]
- Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain proficiency in handling rifle [0.5 AP to load]
- Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks [thus with these two skills a non-soldier would have 50% accuracy]
OR
- Marksmanship – Gain 10% on firearms attacks
- Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks
- Expert Marksmanship – Gain 20% on firearms attacks
- Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain proficiency in handling rifle [0.5 AP to load]
- Advanced Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain better proficiency in handling rifle [0 AP to load]
- Advanced Firearms Training – Gain 10% on firearms attacks and gain better proficiency in handling rifle [0 AP to load]
Current Ratios
Soldiers
60 AP searching ammo hut (documented 23% bullet find rate)
--find 14 bullets
load 14 bullets in 14 AP
Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (60% maximum accuracy)
--Hit 8.4 times at 5 damage = 42 damage inflicted in 88 AP = 0.48 damage inflicted/total AP spent
Combat ratio = 42 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = 3.0 damage inflicted/AP spent in combat
Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging
60 AP searching ammo hut
--find 14 bullets (documented 23% bullet find rate)
load 14 bullets in 14 AP
Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (20% maximum accuracy)
--Hit 2.8 times at 5 damage = 14 damage inflicted in 88 AP = 0.16 damage inflicted/total AP spent
Combat ratio = 14 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = 1.0 damage inflicted/AP spent in combat
Ratios with the proposed skill tree
Soldiers
60 AP searching ammo hut (documented 23% bullet find rate)
--find 14 bullets
load 14 bullets in 0 AP (loading takes 0 AP with proposed skill)
Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (70% maximum accuracy)
--Hit 9.8 times at 5 damage = 49 damage inflicted in 74 AP = 0.66 damage inflicted/total AP spent
Combat ratio = 49 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = 3.5 damage inflicted/AP spent in combat
Non-Soldiers w/o Scavenging
60 AP searching ammo hut (documented 23% bullet find rate)
--find 14 bullets
load 14 bullets in 14 AP
Fire 14 bullets in 14 AP (50% maximum accuracy)
--Hit 7 times at 5 damage = 35 damage inflicted in 88 AP = 0.40 damage inflicted/total AP spent
Combat ratio = 35 damage inflicted / 14 AP spent firing = 2.5 damage inflicted/AP spent in combat
For comparison: Machete with all relevant skills, combat ratio and total ratio (they are the same): 1.35 damage/AP spent
--Note that the damage-per-total-AP-spent ratios above are artificially high, and in practice they would be lower. This is because the rifle damage-to-AP ratios do not take into account the inevitable AP spent travelling to and from ammunition huts to restock on bullets.
- The above is a a supplement for the discussion on the proposed Marksmanship skill: Suggestions:Skills#Marksmanship
-Arminius 01:34, 2 June 2006 (BST)
- The above is a a supplement for the discussion on the proposed Marksmanship skill: Suggestions:Skills#Marksmanship
Deletion proposals
I responded to your June 14 comment on Category talk:Delete#Redirects a while back, and I'd be interested to hear your response. I don't plan on deleting anything without a consensus, but I would like to know what you recommend as guidelines for deciding what should and shouldn't be deleted (if you think anything, even potential pages, should be deleted at all). — Elembis (talk) 03:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see why any of those redirects should be deleted. The more redirects, the better! Arminius 23:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)