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NOTE: I AM USING THIS PAGE AS A SORT OF SANDBOX.
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<div style="align: center; padding: 1em; border: solid 1px #3366CC; background-color:white">
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Welcome to my talk page!
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*If you leave a message here, I will usually answer on your talk page.
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NOTE: I AM SOMETIMES USING THIS PAGE AS A SORT OF SANDBOX.
  
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==Search Odds / Statistics Reference==
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I have moved the search odds template to [[Search odds condensed]] for a trial please
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feel free to try it out and add some data! [[User:Fitzcarraldo|Fitzcarraldo]] 15:18, 22 February 2006 (GMT)
  
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===Search Template===
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'''Exploration issues'''
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*I am offering you a chance to be in my group.  If you do not want to be, that is fine.  But, you seem to be
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very knowldgeable of the game.  I used to play this a long time ago, but had to make a new charecter because
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I forgot the password...so I am a "neo noob" if you will.  I need your information and skill, but I prefeerif you would speak on my talk page.  You can be vital to what I am trying to do.  please respond ASAP.
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-- [[User:Nick Boone|nick]] 03:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
  
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'''<font color=#FF0000>STOP!!!</font>''' -- USE THE FOLLOWING TEMPLATE / CODE.
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'''Heavy sword'''
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*So... Where did you find the Heavy Sword? ;)
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No, seriously. Spill the beans.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 02:52, 30 March 2006 (BST)
  
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To use the template,
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*'''Re: Search Odds'''
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I have no problem with that. I'm inclined to agree with you since at this point we do not know the full extent of the items available in each terrain. A simple condensed listing would probably be more efficient at the moment. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:00, 26 April 2006 (BST)
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#"Edit" the Search Data section
 
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#Paste the following above the line <nowiki><!-- ADD NEW DATA ABOVE THIS LINE. --></nowiki>,
 
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#:NOTE, the colspan number you find in italics within the terrain type eg:''(2)''
 
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*'''Re: Class Information'''
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It probably doesn't need to be noted in the search odd results, but I sort of want to record that information just to satisfy a minor curiosity. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:07, 26 April 2006 (BST)
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===Search Data===
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===Class Information===
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*"is there a feeling that the odds are different for each class of character?" (Fitzcarraldo)  
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*Yes, there is such a feeling. Someone said the scientist/shaman had a higher search rate -- without any supporting evidence, but we have no evidence against either. There were complaints & suggestions that the villager/settler was dominated by other character types, and should start with some advantage such as a higher search rate. By and large Simon appears to be implementing changes behind the scenes as fast as we can suggest them, so it is natural to suspect that starting Settler-0 has a higher search rate than Soldier, Pirate, et al. Currently my Settler finds are nearly 50% in buildings, which I believe is higher than for other classes. But we need to log the searches, because I could easily have gotten lucky.
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| rowspan=3 |'''AP used''' (total)
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*To be clear, collating the data when the class info is there isn't more difficult - if you don't think it makes a difference, then collapse across those columns in your aggregate summaries. I'd be glad to help out with data collection and analysis. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 17:53, 27 April 2006 (BST)
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(please hit 'enter' after each, but note that "2x mango" is just as well as saying "mango mango")
 
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===Search Odds: Tables, Condensed Lists?===
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*About your reverts, I responded on [[Talk:Search odds condensed (results)]]. Thanks! --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 18:15, 27 April 2006 (BST)
  
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===Search Odds: Using Tables vs Condensed Lists===
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Since we now have a pile of data, the items to list in a search odds table for each specialized location are known. My request for comments about using tables is the first section of [[Talk:Search odds condensed]]. Thanks, [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:26, 31 May 2006 (BST)
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| | [[User:Fitzcarraldo|Fitzcarraldo]] 08:50, 20 February 2006 (GMT)
 
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| | SAMPLE n notes would go here maybe describing some oddity or something, perhaps like if there were a tree or a hut or animal
 
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| | [[User:Fitzcarraldo|Fitzcarraldo]] 11:00, 20 February 2006 (GMT)
 
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| | SAMPLE a path
 
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machete
 
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| | [[User:Fitzcarraldo|Fitzcarraldo]] 11:35, 22 February 2006 (GMT)
 
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| | SAMPLE
 
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mango
 
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| | [[User:Fitzcarraldo|Fitzcarraldo]] 13:03, 22 February 2006 (GMT)
 
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==Comments==
 
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I think this is an awesome table that presents a lot of information well. It looks very professional, which I never thought could be done with wiki tables.
 
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But while this works well for a single user, the extra terrain information might make it difficult to analyze multiple reports from multiple users. Most of my experience and expectations of a multi-participatory Search Odds page derives from the Urban Dead wiki which broke up the sampling for each building type. Here, I feel as though the same should be done for each terrain type. I do, however, encourage others to adopt this template into their personal user pages. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 12:15, 22 February 2006 (GMT)
 

Latest revision as of 03:46, 3 June 2007

Welcome to my talk page!

  • If you leave a message here, I will usually answer on your talk page.
  • If I have left a message on your talk page, it is probably best you answer here.


NOTE: I AM SOMETIMES USING THIS PAGE AS A SORT OF SANDBOX. 

I have moved the search odds template to Search odds condensed for a trial please 
feel free to try it out and add some data! Fitzcarraldo 15:18, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

Exploration issues

  • I am offering you a chance to be in my group. If you do not want to be, that is fine. But, you seem to be

very knowldgeable of the game. I used to play this a long time ago, but had to make a new charecter because I forgot the password...so I am a "neo noob" if you will. I need your information and skill, but I prefeerif you would speak on my talk page. You can be vital to what I am trying to do. please respond ASAP. -- nick 03:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Heavy sword

  • So... Where did you find the Heavy Sword? ;)

No, seriously. Spill the beans.--Wifey 02:52, 30 March 2006 (BST)

  • Re: Search Odds

I have no problem with that. I'm inclined to agree with you since at this point we do not know the full extent of the items available in each terrain. A simple condensed listing would probably be more efficient at the moment. --Lint 23:00, 26 April 2006 (BST)

  • Re: Class Information

It probably doesn't need to be noted in the search odd results, but I sort of want to record that information just to satisfy a minor curiosity. --Lint 23:07, 26 April 2006 (BST)

Class Information

  • "is there a feeling that the odds are different for each class of character?" (Fitzcarraldo)
  • Yes, there is such a feeling. Someone said the scientist/shaman had a higher search rate -- without any supporting evidence, but we have no evidence against either. There were complaints & suggestions that the villager/settler was dominated by other character types, and should start with some advantage such as a higher search rate. By and large Simon appears to be implementing changes behind the scenes as fast as we can suggest them, so it is natural to suspect that starting Settler-0 has a higher search rate than Soldier, Pirate, et al. Currently my Settler finds are nearly 50% in buildings, which I believe is higher than for other classes. But we need to log the searches, because I could easily have gotten lucky.
  • To be clear, collating the data when the class info is there isn't more difficult - if you don't think it makes a difference, then collapse across those columns in your aggregate summaries. I'd be glad to help out with data collection and analysis. --Tycho44 17:53, 27 April 2006 (BST)

Search Odds: Tables, Condensed Lists?

Search Odds: Using Tables vs Condensed Lists

Since we now have a pile of data, the items to list in a search odds table for each specialized location are known. My request for comments about using tables is the first section of Talk:Search odds condensed. Thanks, Tycho44 20:26, 31 May 2006 (BST)

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