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Supplies in settlements

Could there perhaps be some kind of a more reliable way to get things in villages, apart from randomly finding them? Coming across abandoned items in jungles, evaquated police departments and such makes sense, but going on an epic quest for a machete under someone's carpet in an active village just seems a bit out of place.

So, if it's not too much of a hassle, which it most likely is, I suggest there to perhaps be put some kind of trader characters in settlements, who could exchange all kindsa things for random junk you've found lying around in other places, or maybe you could get these fellas to make items for you free of charge, which you could go and pick up after a period of time?

..probably too complicated for something that's rather useless. Oh well. --Ismo Kuikka

Comments

There's a trading post in one of the huts in Dalpok, can't get anything there though. Perhaps a sign of things to come? --Snarf 10:33, 17 February 2006 (GMT)
there is,in one of the outsider villages, an ammo cache where you can find ammo reliably in the native villages in the trading posts you can find barely anything(or nothing like my reward for 30AP of searching) -- Daylan 00:01, 10 March 2006 (GMT)
Suggestion = adopted: Trading huts appear fully implemented. --Tycho44 22:29, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Tunnels

Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.

Comments

How do you know they don't exist? :) Dr. J

Treasure to capture

"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.

Comments

I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the Unique Item Hunt suggestion. --Lint 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)

Informational messages

You should be able to see what other people have done since your past turn. Much like the skill above, except for most actions that take place. Such as '[09:34]Joe used a medkit on Roger' or '[05:23]Dan Attacked a Boar and missed'. If this is implemented, there should be a menu that you can use to toggle certain bits of information, to reduce or stop spam. Durja 18:14, 6 February 2006 (GMT)

Comments

I don't want to see when people miss attacks, that's just too much information (unless it's me that they're attacking!) - Snarf
Would be useful to see when kills are made in the same location eg. Dan killed a boar or Joe killed Roger - Snarf
How about making a list of "informational messages" that might be required? - Snarf
  • PlayerX killed PlayerY.
  • PlayerX killed animal.
  • PlayerY died from eating some poisonous berries. (self-inflicted death)
  • Implemented to a certain degree, the first two anyway... if you kill yourself eating berries or from wounds then you just fade away quietly. --Simon 14:12, 27 March 2006 (BST)

Player VS Player Interaction

I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - Nan

Comments

Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --Jackel 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --Daylan 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)
I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--Wifey 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)
I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection. --Iamtas 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)

Spirit Movement

A couple thoughts on this topic.--Jackel 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

  • My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves slower (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move at least as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.
Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --Dr. J 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)
  • Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?
Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?
They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.

Player Titles

To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and Murk would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --Frisco 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)

Comments

I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --Lint 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

Ability to use the 'Back' button

Just logged on to find my character had been killed. He had been attacked by two different natives. Naturally, I was curious, and looked at the first native's profile. I then tried to go back and view the second native's profile, but the combat messages with his name were gone. It would be nice to have the ability to back up one screen and check the other profiles and information on a screen. --Meatiershower 17:17, 10 March 2006 (GMT)

Comments

  • If using firefox or safari, you can probably middle click (if you have a 3 button mouse), or right click and then "Open in new tab/window". That way the profiles open in other windows and you don't lose the messages. --Simon 18:46, 10 March 2006 (GMT)
    • Yep, that one works with firefox on a right-click.MorkaisChosen 16:11, 16 March 2006 (GMT)
  • I don't think there's any way to accomplish this functionality because you are technically reloading the game.cgi page by traveling from it and back to it. The game.cgi is a dynamic page so it won't retain the information if you refresh the page like that. Making all the movement pages static would just become a storage problem when handling static pages for thousands of players. Consider opening profile links in new tabs or new windows as Simon has suggested. (As a side note, in my experience with Firefox, if you stay on the game.cgi page, you can use the back and forward histories to a certain degree.) --Lint 21:46, 10 March 2006 (GMT)
  • Sorry, but I don't think this will ever be available for the reason stated above, you can use the workaround though - it should work in any decent browser. --Simon 11:04, 14 April 2006 (BST)

Inventory Limit

I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --Lint 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

  • The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --Simon 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)
  • Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --Lint 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)
    • "is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --Tycho44 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)
      • <Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --Tycho44 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --Tycho44 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)

In-game Rankings

I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--Jackel 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)

Comments


Wiki: table CSS

It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on Tips and Tricks). I tried to edit WikiMedia:Common.css but it's edit-locked. --VTBassMatt 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)

  • I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --Simon 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)
    • What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.
      • What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --Simon 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)
        • Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:
table.bordered, table.bordered td {
  border: 1px solid black;



Pets

Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing Pet System suggestion.


ruins

the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:

  • unique, ruin only monsters
  • special items found only in ruins
  • if quests are implemented, a quest location

this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.

Comments:

  • I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions.
  • "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP).
  • "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later).
  • "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP).
  • "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover The Conch(tm)!"
...And so on. --Tycho44 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Wind

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Frisco 16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST) Game Element Addition Everyone

Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.

Comments

  • Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --Lint 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)

Animal Levelling

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Frisco 20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST) balance change NPC Animals

Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.

Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:

"Also here is a man-eating tiger"
"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"
"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"
"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"

Comments
... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--Wifey 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)

  • Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --Lint 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)
    • Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around).
  • Awesome. --Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

UDTool type Firefox plugin

Author Timestamp Type Scope
Rip Purr 08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST) Plugin All players with Firefox

I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).

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