Talk:Search odds condensed (results)

Search Odds Results

I don't have opinions one way or the other about Tables versus Lists, but I do have strong opinions about Data: Please stop removing Search Data from the wiki. You appear to have deleted all of the search data without posting aggregate totals. It is helpful to have you collate the data, but only if you return the collated results to the wiki! You can post summarized lists, or post a table, or cut/paste from Excel, or upload an XML or Excel file, or even leave the raw data in its original list form -- As long as the numerical totals stay. The orange/brown pictures are great and give an overall sense of successes, but they don't provide sufficient data for ANOVA or Chi-Square or all the other exciting statistical tests we have planned. I apologize if I missed a Search Odds Results Archive page. Thanks for your consideration. --Tycho44 18:15, 27 April 2006 (BST) Your Search Odds Condensed (data) page is exactly what I was hoping for. I apologize for my disproportionately rude remarks above. --Tycho44 00:56, 29 April 2006 (BST)

whoa.

1. data / results
   1. my bad about removing the old data, if you wanted it you only had to look in the history. The wiki (as far as i know) keeps it for quite a while and I commented at the points when the data was taken and collated. Regardless, I have created another page Search Odds Condensed (data) for you, I really had no idea there was interest in it, instead of getting all bold fonted and pissy about it you could have just asked.
   2. are there any other results data you want me to fix or make public? I generally feel like I am wasting my time if multiple people are doing the same thing, so ask as I may have it already.
2. as for the more advanced statistics you and whomever else you imply with "we" are planning.. In my opinion, it is hardly possible to gleen anything valuable from even the basic stats I have done with the limited amounts of data. I agree that those things should be done, it was my original plan, but to do it now with the number of degrees of freedom and under 100 data points is in my mind ludicrous. It seems you are volunteering to do it, so I leave it to you then and look forward to your results. I do really hope you can find something meaningful, that would be great.
3. now, as to playing nicely in the sandbox.. maybe it is just me, but you seem to not understand wiki etiquette
   1. for your infomation, I am automatically reading in the data and collating it (cludged together with excel mind you, there simply hasn't been enough interest to database it and develop it further). So for example, if you want to change the table, it effects things. Does it effect things in a big way? no. Nonetheless, it would be imfho that you should ask me about it, as a simple skim of the page or its history would indicate that I seem to be the one working on it. I would consider this the minimum of: common. fucking. courtesy.
   2. I have left everything I have posted open for discussion. I have asked for input on the table or data analysis neither you nor anyone else has written anything, nor asked for info until today.. if you would like to continue with this project on your own or work out your own stats without my involvment, please feel free to take it over, but please let me know. I didn't set out to do this and will not do this as some kind of pissing contest. The nature of a wiki is that it is an open community effort, where we all can work openly together and we all win. asshat desensitised manners will get you .. well.. asshattedness. *shrug*

-- fitzcarraldo|^T 00:09, 28 April 2006 (BST)

My intention was to contribute rather than to damage the work that you've done. I appreciate the work you've put into this, and I'll put future format change proposals here first to avoid breaking automated data reading. I have no interest in pissing contests; I'll see what I can do to add more search data. --Tycho44 00:56, 29 April 2006 (BST)