Trading - Revision history

Simon: /* Trading Points */ Redid the conditions - it's (A OR B OR C) AND D

2011-01-03T11:13:13Z

Trading Points: Redid the conditions - it's (A OR B OR C) AND D

Neil Tathers at 01:08, 3 January 2011

2011-01-03T01:08:05Z

Neil Tathers: Updated page, removed odd value table

2010-10-04T19:50:22Z

Updated page, removed odd value table

Darkferret: /* Item prices */

2007-12-24T07:33:50Z

Item prices

Oktavius: Added missing items, but their prices are unknown

2007-10-07T19:47:36Z

Added missing items, but their prices are unknown

Tsaigo: doh. Subject verb agreement error corrected.

2007-07-19T19:58:46Z

doh. Subject verb agreement error corrected.

Tsaigo: Clarified that you can trade many items for a single more expensive item

2007-07-19T19:58:13Z

Clarified that you can trade many items for a single more expensive item

Elembis: /* Item prices */ Fixed a link to the "Trading Hut Prices That Reward Foreign Travel" suggestion and updated the description of the changes it's brought.

2006-07-30T21:19:39Z

Item prices: Fixed a link to the "Trading Hut Prices That Reward Foreign Travel" suggestion and updated the description of the changes it's brought.

Elembis: /* Item prices */ Noted that newly-visited traders give better prices.

2006-07-21T21:55:37Z

Item prices: Noted that newly-visited traders give better prices.

Elembis: Misc. cleanup.

2006-06-11T02:28:26Z

Misc. cleanup.

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 Trading points can be acquired three different ways.
 *If one is participating in the tutorial.
-*Or it's your first trade in the game.
+*OR it's your first trade in the game.
-*Or it's not your home trader AND your first trade with him was less than 24 hours ago (The first trade yields 100XP and kicks off the trading for 24 hours).
+*OR it's not your home trader (The first trade yields 100XP and kicks off the trading for 24 hours)
-Fulfilling one of these conditions means you get points with the number of items you traded, (i.e. if you trade 2 gold coins for a first aid kit, you receive two points).
+Fulfilling one of the first three conditions and the last one means you get points with the number of items you traded, (i.e. if you trade 2 gold coins for a first aid kit, you receive two points).
 ==Trader inventories==

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	*Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the camp ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.		*Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the camp ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.

		+	==Trading Points==
		+
		+	Trading points can be acquired three different ways.
		+	*If one is participating in the tutorial.
		+	*Or it's your first trade in the game.
		+	*Or it's not your home trader AND your first trade with him was less than 24 hours ago (The first trade yields 100XP and kicks off the trading for 24 hours).
		+
		+	Fulfilling one of these conditions means you get points with the number of items you traded, (i.e. if you trade 2 gold coins for a first aid kit, you receive two points).

	==Trader inventories==		==Trader inventories==

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 ==Item prices==
 Item prices listed here are only approximate; the actual price of an item will vary based on several factors:
 * '''Quantity''': An item will be more expensive if a trader has an unusually low number of them in stock and cheaper if the trader has many more than usual. This has been the case since 24 May 2006.
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 *Round-off can make some trades unusually harsh. For example, you will need two GPS units to buy one rifle, even though 17 bullets buy a GPS and 20 bullets buy a rifle. It is better to trade a GPS unit for "cash" (a cheap item type like bullets or darts) and accumulate enough cash to buy a rifle than it is to trade GPS units for a rifle directly.
 *Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the camp ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.
-*Gold is the fundamental currency of the game, being the only item that players can give to other players in large quantities, so its value has been fixed at $100 and other items have been valued accordingly.
 ==Trader inventories==

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 *Round-off can make some trades unusually harsh. For example, you will need two GPS units to buy one rifle, even though 17 bullets buy a GPS and 20 bullets buy a rifle. It is better to trade a GPS unit for "cash" (a cheap item type like bullets or darts) and accumulate enough cash to buy a rifle than it is to trade GPS units for a rifle directly.
 *Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the camp ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.
-*Gold is the fundamental currency of the game, being the only item that players can give to other players, so its value has been fixed at $100 and other items have been valued accordingly.
+*Gold is the fundamental currency of the game, being the only item that players can give to other players in large quantities, so its value has been fixed at $100 and other items have been valued accordingly.
 *The trading hut can be used to broker trades between players, provided both players are active in the trading hut at the same time and both players have enough goods to make change with the trader.

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 Trades use two pulldown menus to select a type of item from your inventory and a type of item from the trader's inventory. After submitting your choices, the trader will propose a trade.
-Trades usually consist of swapping one item of the more expensive type for a bundle of items of the cheaper type. Some items (such as bananas and bottles of beer) are equal in price, as the trader will tell you, and can be traded 1-for-1 in either direction. Otherwise, the trader usually collects a small commission by shorting you one item (plus roundoff) when you trade down (trade a single item for multiple cheaper ones).
+Trades consist of a swap of one item of the more expensive type for a single item or a bundle of items of the cheaper type. Some items (such as bananas and bottles of beer) are equal in price, as the trader will tell you, and can be traded 1-for-1 in either direction. Otherwise, the trader usually collects a small commission by shorting you one item (plus roundoff) when you trade down (trade a single item for multiple cheaper ones).
 Once the trader makes the offer, you can either accept the proposed trade (for 1 [[Gameplay#Action Points|AP]]) or reject the proposed trade (for 0 AP). If both parties have the required amount of items, and if you have enough empty space in your inventory to temporarily carry both groups of items, the items will be successfully exchanged. After the trade, you have an opportunity to make the same trade again (for 1 AP).
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 |-
 |align="right"| $5000 || Heavy sword
 |-
 |align="right"| $1000 || Gem
 |-
-|align="right"|  $300 || Rifle / blowpipe
+|align="right"| $? || Shovel
 |-
 |align="right"|  $250 || GPS unit
 |-
-|align="right"|  $200 || First aid kit / dried herbs
+|align="right"|  $? || Egg
 |-
 |align="right"|  $120 || Cutlass
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 |align="right"|   $80 || Blunt cutlass
 |-
-|align="right"|   $80 || Knife / dagger
+|align="right"|   $80 || Knife/dagger
 |-
 |align="right"|   $70 || Blunt machete
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 |align="right"|   $50 || Sharpening stone
 |-
-|align="right"|   $40 || Banana / mango
+|align="right"|   $? || Bottle/gourd of tasty berry juice
 |-
-|align="right"|   $40 || Bottle of beer / bottle of rum
+|align="right"|   $40 || Bottle of beer/rum
 |-
 |align="right"|   $40 || Tasty berries
 |-
-|align="right"|   $30 || Bottle of water / gourd of water
+|align="right"|   $30 || Bottle/gourd of water
 |-
 |align="right"|   $20 || Poisonous berries

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 Item prices listed here are only approximate; the actual price of an item will vary based on several factors:
 * '''Quantity''': An item will be more expensive if a trader has an unusually low number of them in stock and cheaper if the trader has many more than usual. This has been the case since 24 May 2006.
-* '''Trader familiarity''': Prices are very good for the first 24 hours after trading with a new trader, or good for 24 hours after trading with your home trader. After some time, however, prices will worsen as the trader tires of you ("You do realize that there's an entire island out there to explore, don't you? How about bringing me back something more exciting than what you have now?"). This can be solved by visiting a different trader. (See [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Trading Hut Prices That Reward Foreign Travel]].)
+* '''Trader familiarity''': Prices are very good for the first 24 hours after trading with a new trader, or good for 24 hours after trading with your home trader. After some time, however, prices will worsen as the trader tires of you ("You do realize that there's an entire island out there to explore, don't you? How about bringing me back something more exciting than what you have now?"). This can be solved by visiting a different trader or by leaving for several days. (See [[Suggestions:Implemented#Trading Hut Prices That Reward Foreign Travel]].)
 * '''Language skills''': When you have no [[skills|language skills]], a foreign trader will almost always offer you one less item, or demand one more item, on each trade (see [[Talk:Trading]] for details).

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 |align="right"|    $5 || Poison snake
 |}
-Item prices listed here are only approximate; the actual price of an item will be higher if it is unusually rare at the trading hut being visited and lower if it is unusually common. Also, when you have no [[skills|language skills]], a foreign trader will almost always offer you one less item, or demand one more item, on each trade (see [[Talk:Trading]] for details). Note that:
+Item prices listed here are only approximate; the actual price of an item will vary based on several factors:
-*As of May 24, 2006, the trader's offer will vary up or down depending upon availability of the items. Locally common items trade for less than the listed value, and locally rare items trade for more.
+* '''Quantity''': An item will be more expensive if a trader has an unusually low number of them in stock and cheaper if the trader has many more than usual. This has been the case since 24 May 2006.
 *These prices are valid when you trade up (trade multiple items for a more expensive one), but you usually pay a commission when you trade down; 20 bullets will buy a rifle, but a rifle will only buy 19 bullets (see [[Talk:Trading]] for exact exchange rates).
 *Round-off can make some trades unusually harsh. For example, you will need two GPS units to buy one rifle, even though 17 bullets buy a GPS and 20 bullets buy a rifle. It is better to trade a GPS unit for "cash" (a cheap item type like bullets or darts) and accumulate enough cash to buy a rifle than it is to trade GPS units for a rifle directly.

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-'''Trading''' is a feature added on 23 March 2006. Players can visit a village's trading hut and trade [[items]] with the [[trader]] inside.
+'''Trading''' is a feature added on 23 March 2006 that allows players to trade items with the [[trader]] in each [[camp|camp's]] trading hut. An item's price will increase if the item is rare at a specific hut and decrease if it's plentiful there. Foreign goods might bring a premium in the trading hut, whereas locally produced items will probably be discounted.
 ==How to trade==
-Trading involves using two pulldown menus to select a type of item from your inventory and a type of item from the trader's inventory. After submitting your choices, the trader will propose a trade.
+Trades use two pulldown menus to select a type of item from your inventory and a type of item from the trader's inventory. After submitting your choices, the trader will propose a trade.
 Trades always consist of swapping one item of the more expensive type for a bundle of items of the cheaper type. Some items (such as bananas and bottles of beer) are equal in price, as the trader will tell you, and can be traded 1-for-1 in either direction. Otherwise, the trader usually collects a small commission by shorting you one item (plus roundoff) when you trade down (trade a single item for multiple cheaper ones).
-Once the trader makes the offer, you can either accept the proposed trade (costs 1 AP) or reject the proposed trade (costs 0 AP). Provided that both parties have the required amount of items, and provided that you have enough empty space in your inventory to temporarily carry both groups of items, the items will be successfully exchanged. After the trade, you have an opportunity to make the same trade again (costs 1 AP).
+Once the trader makes the offer, you can either accept the proposed trade (for 1 [[Gameplay#Action Points|AP]]) or reject the proposed trade (for 0 AP). If both parties have the required amount of items, and if you have enough empty space in your inventory to temporarily carry both groups of items, the items will be successfully exchanged. After the trade, you have an opportunity to make the same trade again (for 1 AP).
 ==Item prices==
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 |align="right"|    $5 || Poison snake
 |}
-The table to the right is only approximate; the actual price of an item will be higher if it is unusually rare at the trading hut being visited and lower if it is unusually common. Items are more expensive if you are not fluent in the trader's language. When you have no [[skills|language skills]], a foreign trader will almost always offer you one less item, or demand one more item, on each trade (see [[Talk:Trading]] for details). Note that:
+Item prices listed here are only approximate; the actual price of an item will be higher if it is unusually rare at the trading hut being visited and lower if it is unusually common. Also, when you have no [[skills|language skills]], a foreign trader will almost always offer you one less item, or demand one more item, on each trade (see [[Talk:Trading]] for details). Note that:
 *As of May 24, 2006, the trader's offer will vary up or down depending upon availability of the items. Locally common items trade for less than the listed value, and locally rare items trade for more.
 *These prices are valid when you trade up (trade multiple items for a more expensive one), but you usually pay a commission when you trade down; 20 bullets will buy a rifle, but a rifle will only buy 19 bullets (see [[Talk:Trading]] for exact exchange rates).
 *Round-off can make some trades unusually harsh. For example, you will need two GPS units to buy one rifle, even though 17 bullets buy a GPS and 20 bullets buy a rifle. It is better to trade a GPS unit for "cash" (a cheap item type like bullets or darts) and accumulate enough cash to buy a rifle than it is to trade GPS units for a rifle directly.
-*Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the village ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.
+*Most of the important items in the trading hut can be obtained for free by searching in the camp ammunition and medical huts. The trading hut is useful for off-loading unwanted inventory, or for obtaining large quantities of a specialized item. See [[Items]] for details on where to find specific items.
 *Gold is the fundamental currency of the game, being the only item that players can give to other players, so its value has been fixed at $100 and other items have been valued accordingly.
 *The trading hut can be used to broker trades between players, provided both players are active in the trading hut at the same time and both players have enough goods to make change with the trader.
 ==Trader inventories==
-:''See [[Trading hut stock reports]] for current information on the stock of various huts.''
+:''See [[Trading hut stock reports]] for current information on the stocks of various huts.''
 Traders do not have unlimited supplies of items; instead, they are periodically resupplied by the server. It is believed that native traders restock only native items and outsider traders restock only outsider items. However, since traders also receive items from other players, it is often possible to find both outsider and native items in a given trading hut, as well as anything else other players may have traded in.
 [[Category:Gameplay]]