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User talk:ShamanBrain

2006-06-09T19:44:58Z

ShamanBrain:

I see that you have blanked '''Guardians of Dalpok'''. As you are the original author of this page, would you like to nominate it for deletion? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:16, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Yeah, sorry. I didn't see a way to do it.

Talk:Character classes

2006-05-25T21:13:28Z

ShamanBrain: /* Chart */ Scientist gets leadership

==Class and Skill Chart==

:Maybe we should have a page that says what skills each class can get, like a big table with the skills going down the side and the classes going across the top. So we can figure out what the differences are between the classes besides hp and starting items as it is starting to become clear not every class can use some skills. We will have to wait a bit to get the confirmation on some of the classes but we can already find out(mostly) what the scientist and warrior class get which is a good start. We don't even have to level a guy up of each class ourselves, the way the profiles and stats page are set up we could just copy down the skills that we see the highest level of each class has -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]]

:Here's a rough draft. I'm using '''X''' to represent a confirmed skill that is available on my skill page. I haven't listed any skills that I do not personally have. I think we need to level each class up rather than basing a chart on assumptions. For example, while the shamans receive "Natural Medicine" it hasn't been determined if outsiders receive it as well. I suspect that "Natural Medicine" doesn't fit with the scientist character, it would be more fitting to be listed as "Surgery" or something. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:56, 24 February 2006 (GMT)

::'''Nice going''', I was going to propose a "skill chart" just like this! I've added to the confirmed skills.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 17:47, 25 February 2006 (GMT)

Wow sweet, I'll add some and when we get it finished we can finally see what the differences are..... BTW a good source of info is the stats on kills page, that is where I got all the info that I added -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:50, 26 February 2006 (GMT)
:NEW SKILL CONFIRMED!!!! SCIENTISTS GET FIRST AID(Murk has it from stats page)!!! You were right Lint,also updated the chart, turns out the class "warrior" is misleading they can't fight any better than anybody else! they do seem to get a lot of the other skills BUT from what I see they are exactly the same as a shaman(cept hp/starting item ) unless out of the blue there appears some crazy warrior-only melee skill-o-death. Also, Lint, your a shaman right? can you get languge skills next to confirm if there are any differences between warriors and shamans?(I can't see language skills being too different,well cept for shamans getting expert language and warriors not)-- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:10, 3 March 2006 (GMT)
::Added. There's a dotted spot underneath it, presumably for Expert Language, but we'll know for sure in a couple days. :P --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:25, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

: I have the swimming skill and I'm a Soldier. [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=547 Urban Me]--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:03, 25 March 2006 (GMT)

: I ,[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=669 Jones Dye], have all the scientist skill except one. I updated the chart adding Haunting Scream .--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:32, 27 March 2006 (BST)

: I am a soldier and have the basic tracking skill.--[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:57, 31 March 2006 (BST)

: I am a Settler and I posess swimming and basic tracking. Also, I have first-hand knowledge that Shamans and Pirates have access to basic tracking. By using profiles listed on the stats page, I have determined the following information: added Scout - haunting scream, added Scout - natural medicine, added Soldier - first aid, added Pirate - advanced language. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 03:44, 31 March 2006 (BST)

:: My shaman has Basic Tracking, and I can see Advanced Tracking and the dots for Expert Tracking on my skills page. Xs added.--[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 19:21, 5 April 2006 (BST)

Proposal to move this chart to the article page now, rather than waiting to fill it up. People will never find it here... Comments? --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:54, 6 April 2006 (BST)

:Sure. I've been thinking about that as well. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:55, 6 April 2006 (BST)

:: Chart is almost complete. It doesn't look like there is a compelling reason to put it on the front page -- there aren't any surprises on it ... No exclusive skills except for the obvious ones. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 03:52, 23 April 2006 (BST)

:Completed Soldier skill set (I have Expert Lang.) --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 21:05, 30 April 2006 (BST)

===Chart===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:90%;border-collapse:collapse;"
|  || colspan=4 | Natives || colspan=5 | Outsiders
|-
| 
|style="width:8%;"|Scout
|style="width:8%;"|Warrior
|style="width:8%;"|Villager
|style="width:8%;"|Shaman
|style="width:8%;"|Explorer
|style="width:8%;"|Soldier
|style="width:8%;"|Settler
|style="width:8%;"|Scientist
|style="width:8%;"|Pirate
|-
|STILL TO VERIFY:|| 1 || - || 2 || - || 1 || - || 1 || - || -
|-
|Outs/Native Knowl.. || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Basic Language || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced Language || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Expert Language || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Close quarter com.. || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced close qu.. || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Body building || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Stamina || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Sixth Sense || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Ghostly Whisper || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Haunting Scream || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Shocking Shriek || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Banshee Wail || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Exploration || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Cartography || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Trekking || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Swimming || X || X ||(?)|| X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Basic Tracking || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced Tracking || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Expert Tracking || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Clan Leadership ||(?)|| X ||(?)|| X ||(?)|| X ||(?)||X|| X
|-
|Triage || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Nat Med / First Aid || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Animal Affinity || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _
|-
|Scavenging || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _
|-
|Firearms / Blowpipe || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _
|-
|Advanced Fire/Blowp || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _
|}

==Starting AP==
Starting AP may be 175 for all types. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 03:20, 10 March 2006 (GMT)

Talk:Character classes

2006-04-18T01:26:26Z

ShamanBrain: Banshee wail for shaman confirmed

==Class and Skill Chart==

:Maybe we should have a page that says what skills each class can get, like a big table with the skills going down the side and the classes going across the top. So we can figure out what the differences are between the classes besides hp and starting items as it is starting to become clear not every class can use some skills. We will have to wait a bit to get the confirmation on some of the classes but we can already find out(mostly) what the scientist and warrior class get which is a good start. We don't even have to level a guy up of each class ourselves, the way the profiles and stats page are set up we could just copy down the skills that we see the highest level of each class has -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]]

:Here's a rough draft. I'm using '''X''' to represent a confirmed skill that is available on my skill page. I haven't listed any skills that I do not personally have. I think we need to level each class up rather than basing a chart on assumptions. For example, while the shamans receive "Natural Medicine" it hasn't been determined if outsiders receive it as well. I suspect that "Natural Medicine" doesn't fit with the scientist character, it would be more fitting to be listed as "Surgery" or something. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:56, 24 February 2006 (GMT)

::'''Nice going''', I was going to propose a "skill chart" just like this! I've added to the confirmed skills.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 17:47, 25 February 2006 (GMT)

Wow sweet, I'll add some and when we get it finished we can finally see what the differences are..... BTW a good source of info is the stats on kills page, that is where I got all the info that I added -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:50, 26 February 2006 (GMT)
:NEW SKILL CONFIRMED!!!! SCIENTISTS GET FIRST AID(Murk has it from stats page)!!! You were right Lint,also updated the chart, turns out the class "warrior" is misleading they can't fight any better than anybody else! they do seem to get a lot of the other skills BUT from what I see they are exactly the same as a shaman(cept hp/starting item ) unless out of the blue there appears some crazy warrior-only melee skill-o-death. Also, Lint, your a shaman right? can you get languge skills next to confirm if there are any differences between warriors and shamans?(I can't see language skills being too different,well cept for shamans getting expert language and warriors not)-- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:10, 3 March 2006 (GMT)
::Added. There's a dotted spot underneath it, presumably for Expert Language, but we'll know for sure in a couple days. :P --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:25, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

: I have the swimming skill and I'm a Soldier. [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=547 Urban Me]--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:03, 25 March 2006 (GMT)

: I ,[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=669 Jones Dye], have all the scientist skill except one. I updated the chart adding Haunting Scream .--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:32, 27 March 2006 (BST)

: I am a soldier and have the basic tracking skill.--[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:57, 31 March 2006 (BST)

: I am a Settler and I posess swimming and basic tracking. Also, I have first-hand knowledge that Shamans and Pirates have access to basic tracking. By using profiles listed on the stats page, I have determined the following information: added Scout - haunting scream, added Scout - natural medicine, added Soldier - first aid, added Pirate - advanced language. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 03:44, 31 March 2006 (BST)

:: My shaman has Basic Tracking, and I can see Advanced Tracking and the dots for Expert Tracking on my skills page. Xs added.--[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 19:21, 5 April 2006 (BST)

Proposal to move this chart to the article page now, rather than waiting to fill it up. People will never find it here... Comments? --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:54, 6 April 2006 (BST)

:Sure. I've been thinking about that as well. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:55, 6 April 2006 (BST)

===Chart===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:90%;border-collapse:collapse;"
|  || colspan=4 | Natives || colspan=5 | Outsiders
|-
| 
|style="width:8%;"|Scout
|style="width:8%;"|Warrior
|style="width:8%;"|Villager
|style="width:8%;"|Shaman
|style="width:8%;"|Explorer
|style="width:8%;"|Soldier
|style="width:8%;"|Settler
|style="width:8%;"|Scientist
|style="width:8%;"|Pirate
|-
|Outsider Know... || X || X || X || X || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _
|-
|Native Knowledge || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Basic Language || X || X || _ || X || _ || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced Lang... || X || X || _ || X || _ || _ || _ || X || X
|-
|Expert Language || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || _ || _ || X || _
|-
|Close quarter... || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced clos... || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Body building || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Stamina || X || X || _ || X || X || X || _ || X || X
|-
|Sixth Sense || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Ghostly Whisper || X || X || _ || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Haunting Scream || X || X || _ || X || _ || _ || _ || X || _
|-
|Shocking Shriek || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || _ || _ || _ || _
|-
|Banshee Wail || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || _ || _ || _ || _
|-
|Exploration || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Cartography || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Trekking || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Swimming || _ || X || _ || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Basic Tracking || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || X || X || X || X
|-
|Advanced Trac... || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || X || _ || X || _
|-
|Expert Tracking || _ || _ || _ || X || _ || X || _ || _ || _
|-
|Triage || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X || X
|-
|Natural Medicine || X || X || X || X || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _
|-
|First Aid || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || bgcolor=#CCCCCC | _ || _ || X || X || X || _
|-
|Animal Affinity || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _
|-
|Scavenging || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _
|-
|Firearms Trai... || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _
|-
|Advanced Fire... || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _
|-
|Blowpipe Trai... || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _
|-
|Advanced Blow... || _ || bgcolor=#EEEEFF | X || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _
|}

==Starting AP==
Starting AP may be 175 for all types. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 03:20, 10 March 2006 (GMT)