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		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7936</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7936"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:31:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* 30th June,2006: */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
=== 30th June,2006: === the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;br /&gt;
==WARS!==&lt;br /&gt;
none at the present moment.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7935</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7935"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:30:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* 30th June,2006: */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
=== 30th June,2006: === the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7934</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7934"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:29:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* 30th June,2006: */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
=== 30th June,2006: ===the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7933</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7933"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:29:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* 30th June,2006: */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
=== 30th June,2006: === the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7932</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7932"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:28:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* OUR ENEMIES!!! */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
==30th June,2006:== the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7931</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7931"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:28:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* MEMBERS */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
==30th June,2006:== the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Colonial_police&amp;diff=7930</id>
		<title>Colonial police</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Colonial_police&amp;diff=7930"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:23:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* Members */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=Colonial Police|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_image=[[Image:CPLogo.jpg]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=CP|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=MickR and Arwedda|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=10+|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=Keeping the peace.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=Simply talk to us at the CPHQ or place your profile under the &amp;quot;List of Members&amp;quot; on this page.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=Arwedda and Mick, in York (-70.374,+26.313)|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/clanview.cgi?id=16 The Colonial Police] are a group of outsiders devoted to keeping the peace, and punishing those who would take other's lives. Our primary mission is the execution of any person who has killed outsiders on the island. We are currently not offering any protection to the natives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are currently looking for new members. As long as you know what we're about, you can join.&lt;br /&gt;
Just place your name ond profile under the 'List of Members' below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Report any murders to the officer on duty in the Colonial Police HQ, at GPS co-ordinates: (-70.374,+26.313)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If no-one on the list below is present, an officer should be returning to the CPHQ within the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Talk to us on our [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Leaders ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1588 Arwedda]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MickR|MickR]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Colonial Police|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CP&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Members ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2470 Kjendlie]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1603 czech1]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3105 Nighter]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3258 Vizerdrix]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3225 leathel99764]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3321 radiohead1102]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2435 sayt]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1098 Admiral Nelson]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3586 Ukapu Boy]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3426 Che]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Alliances ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[The South Shartak Trading Company]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[S.P.I.R.I.T.S]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Royal Expedition]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Criminals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Most Wanted ===&lt;br /&gt;
(kill on sight)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1629 Lord Paul Reefer] (Outsider) is wanted for murdering an officer. '''-Connected to Stoertebecker!''' '''-Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''-Third Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly within the CPHQ. '''-Fourth Offence''' Murdered an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Fifth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''-Sixth Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Seventh Offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer inside the CPHQ! '''-Eighth Offence''' Murdered another officer in the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Tenth Offence''' Conspiracy to commit murder. '''-Eleventh Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Twelth Offence!''' Murdered two more officers in the shallow waters of York. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Thirteenth Offence''' Talking to him obviously didn't work, as he's now killed two more officers in the CPHQ! '''-Fourteenth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifteenth Offence''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Sixteenth Offence''' Attacked an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventeenth Offence''' Attacked an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Eighteenth Offence''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3059 Eli Jenkins](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked two officers in the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again.'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Third Offence''' Attacked two more officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth Offence''' Killed another officer. '''-Fifth Offence''' Attacked two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Sixth Offence''' Attacked another officer inside the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventh Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly. '''-Eighth Offence''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Tenth Offence''' Attacked two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1492 JB Aristide](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for murdering an officer. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''-Second offence!''' Attacked an officer. '''-Third offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered an innocent civilian. '''-Fifth offence!''' Attacked another officer! '''-Sixth offence!''' Repeatedly attacked an officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventh offence!''' Killed an officer. '''-Eighth offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Ninth offence!''' Killed another CP officer! '''-Tenth offence!''' Killed another officer. '''-Eleventh offence!''' Murdered a CP officer. '''-Twelth offence!''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Active ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2825 Lucifer Rustypants](Pirate) is wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2176 Cunstnail](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1327 Tom Failur](Outsider) is wanted for the murders of many York citizens.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2445 Elembis](Native) is wanted for the murder of a Colonial Police officer inside the CPHQ. '''Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''Third Offence''' Murdered numerous civilians.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=318 Snake Tongue](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=582 Barbecue](Native) is wanted for murdering an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
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* A warning to [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=539 Schmeckel](Outsider) for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=772 Dave C](Native) and [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=754 Xiombarg](Native) are wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1522 Barbarossa](Outsider) is wanted by the Colonial Police for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3576 manteno] (Outsider) is warned against Assaulting Police officers&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1677 Paul Gascoigne](native) is wanted for the murder of an officer&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Suspected ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently N/A.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Executed ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2141 Raffles](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an innocent civilian. '''-Second Offence''' Killed an officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1571 Arrgyle](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer inside the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2659 Dashing Derek](Outsider) is wanted for murdering a CP officer. (HIRED) '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice.'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2418 Firebabe871] (Outsider) is wanted for repeatedly attacking a CP officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2091 zybe](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for repeatedly attacking an officer inside the Colonial Police HQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1879 Phutnanog](Native) wanted for multiple murders of officers and civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1828 Mal] (Native) is wanted for the murder of a citizen. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1553 Stoertebecker] (Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Second offence!''' Repeatedly attacked another officer. '''-Third offence!''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifth offence!''' Killed another officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2364 Dekuyper](Outsider) is wanted for killing innocent civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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== News ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== July 1st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Riddick]] will crush you all!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 25th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Colonial Police are three months old!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 15th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The war with Lord Paul Reefer's group, 'The Reefer Terror Cell', has officially begun. The CP needs new members now more than ever.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Colonial Police now has a grand total of nine members!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 6th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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We found and executed a number of criminals today, and tried talking to Lord Paul Reefer again.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 4th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Yesterday, a member of the Mercenary's Guild was hired to kill MickR. The negotiations begin...&lt;br /&gt;
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=== June 2nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The CP are looking into entering negotiations with the Mercenary's Guild.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 31st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Colonial Police [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum] is now open.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 28th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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To whoever posted their profile up on the wiki, the link didn't work so I deleted it, please try again.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 27th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Colonial Police are now an officially recognised clan. MickR and Arwedda are currently returning to HQ.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 23rd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Neither Arwedda or MickR have enough XP to set up the clan today, but we're hoping to A.S.A.P. We're going hunting for a short time so that we can get 'Clan Leadership' we shall return to York soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 22nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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After a long and painful trip we finally got him, JB Aristide is down! For the first time in the history of the Colonial Police, the 'Most Wanted' list is empty.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 21st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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We finally found him! Lord Paul Reefer has been brought to justice. His last know location was at [-70.383,+26.304].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 14th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Membership Drive.''' Currently accepting any and every application to join the CPHQ, except those made by convicts. This drive is in response to the rampant crime that has overtaken the peoples of York. Your town needs '''you''' to help keep the peace.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== May 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
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There has been some debate as to whether or not W B Hazen was guilty for killing BlackJack inside the CPHQ. Arwedda acted by instinct. W B Hazen... if, in fact, you were not guilty, the Colonial Police apologise for any inconvenience they may have caused.&lt;br /&gt;
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===May 11th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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After further investigation by Mick, it seems that natives belonging to a dangerous group called The [[Raktamites]] are camping out in various huts around York. If you have the time, check any huts near-by and make sure there are no dangerous natives inside. Do not attack them unless you are SURE they are PKers.&lt;br /&gt;
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===May 9th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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Phutnanog was finally brought to justice today. Hopefully he has now learnt that murders in York will always be avenged.&lt;br /&gt;
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===May 7th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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The crime-rate in York is currently at an all time high. The CP is doing all they can to stop the murders.&lt;br /&gt;
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===May 3rd, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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Two new members joined the Colonial Police today.&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to [[Slavik]] and [[czech1]]. Together we can help protect the citizens of York, and eventually reduce crime in York on a massive scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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===April 29th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that a clan of Natives lead by Phutnanog, known as the '[[Raktamites]]' has been on a killing spree in York.&lt;br /&gt;
If you have any information that would give us a lead towards the capture of Phutnanog and the other murderous members of his group please contact Mick or Arwedda at the Colonial Police HQ in York (-70.374,+26.313).&lt;br /&gt;
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===April 25th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
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Clan established.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]] [[Category:Officially recognized clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Colonial police</title>
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		<updated>2006-07-01T00:22:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* June 25th, 2006 */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=Colonial Police|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_image=[[Image:CPLogo.jpg]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=CP|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=MickR and Arwedda|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=10+|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=Keeping the peace.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=Simply talk to us at the CPHQ or place your profile under the &amp;quot;List of Members&amp;quot; on this page.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=Arwedda and Mick, in York (-70.374,+26.313)|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.shartak.com/clanview.cgi?id=16 The Colonial Police] are a group of outsiders devoted to keeping the peace, and punishing those who would take other's lives. Our primary mission is the execution of any person who has killed outsiders on the island. We are currently not offering any protection to the natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are currently looking for new members. As long as you know what we're about, you can join.&lt;br /&gt;
Just place your name ond profile under the 'List of Members' below.&lt;br /&gt;
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Report any murders to the officer on duty in the Colonial Police HQ, at GPS co-ordinates: (-70.374,+26.313)&lt;br /&gt;
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If no-one on the list below is present, an officer should be returning to the CPHQ within the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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Talk to us on our [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum].&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Leaders ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1588 Arwedda]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MickR|MickR]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Colonial Police|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CP&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Members ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2470 Kjendlie]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2899 riddick]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1603 czech1]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3105 Nighter]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3258 Vizerdrix]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3225 leathel99764]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3321 radiohead1102]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2435 sayt]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1098 Admiral Nelson]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3586 Ukapu Boy]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3426 Che]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alliances ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[The South Shartak Trading Company]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[S.P.I.R.I.T.S]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Royal Expedition]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of Criminals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Most Wanted ===&lt;br /&gt;
(kill on sight)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1629 Lord Paul Reefer] (Outsider) is wanted for murdering an officer. '''-Connected to Stoertebecker!''' '''-Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''-Third Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly within the CPHQ. '''-Fourth Offence''' Murdered an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Fifth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''-Sixth Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Seventh Offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer inside the CPHQ! '''-Eighth Offence''' Murdered another officer in the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Tenth Offence''' Conspiracy to commit murder. '''-Eleventh Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Twelth Offence!''' Murdered two more officers in the shallow waters of York. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Thirteenth Offence''' Talking to him obviously didn't work, as he's now killed two more officers in the CPHQ! '''-Fourteenth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifteenth Offence''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Sixteenth Offence''' Attacked an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventeenth Offence''' Attacked an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Eighteenth Offence''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3059 Eli Jenkins](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked two officers in the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again.'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Third Offence''' Attacked two more officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth Offence''' Killed another officer. '''-Fifth Offence''' Attacked two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Sixth Offence''' Attacked another officer inside the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventh Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly. '''-Eighth Offence''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Tenth Offence''' Attacked two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1492 JB Aristide](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for murdering an officer. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''-Second offence!''' Attacked an officer. '''-Third offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered an innocent civilian. '''-Fifth offence!''' Attacked another officer! '''-Sixth offence!''' Repeatedly attacked an officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventh offence!''' Killed an officer. '''-Eighth offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Ninth offence!''' Killed another CP officer! '''-Tenth offence!''' Killed another officer. '''-Eleventh offence!''' Murdered a CP officer. '''-Twelth offence!''' Killed an officer inside the CPHQ.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Active ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2825 Lucifer Rustypants](Pirate) is wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2176 Cunstnail](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1327 Tom Failur](Outsider) is wanted for the murders of many York citizens.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2445 Elembis](Native) is wanted for the murder of a Colonial Police officer inside the CPHQ. '''Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''Third Offence''' Murdered numerous civilians.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=318 Snake Tongue](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=582 Barbecue](Native) is wanted for murdering an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
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* A warning to [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=539 Schmeckel](Outsider) for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=772 Dave C](Native) and [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=754 Xiombarg](Native) are wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1522 Barbarossa](Outsider) is wanted by the Colonial Police for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=3576 manteno] (Outsider) is warned against Assaulting Police officers&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1677 Paul Gascoigne](native) is wanted for the murder of an officer&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Suspected ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently N/A.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Executed ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2141 Raffles](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an innocent civilian. '''-Second Offence''' Killed an officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1571 Arrgyle](Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer inside the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2659 Dashing Derek](Outsider) is wanted for murdering a CP officer. (HIRED) '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice.'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2418 Firebabe871] (Outsider) is wanted for repeatedly attacking a CP officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2091 zybe](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for repeatedly attacking an officer inside the Colonial Police HQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1879 Phutnanog](Native) wanted for multiple murders of officers and civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1828 Mal] (Native) is wanted for the murder of a citizen. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1553 Stoertebecker] (Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Second offence!''' Repeatedly attacked another officer. '''-Third offence!''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifth offence!''' Killed another officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2364 Dekuyper](Outsider) is wanted for killing innocent civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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== News ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== July 1st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]] will crush you all!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 25th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police are three months old!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 15th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The war with Lord Paul Reefer's group, 'The Reefer Terror Cell', has officially begun. The CP needs new members now more than ever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police now has a grand total of nine members!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 6th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We found and executed a number of criminals today, and tried talking to Lord Paul Reefer again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 4th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yesterday, a member of the Mercenary's Guild was hired to kill MickR. The negotiations begin...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 2nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The CP are looking into entering negotiations with the Mercenary's Guild.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 31st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum] is now open.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 28th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To whoever posted their profile up on the wiki, the link didn't work so I deleted it, please try again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 27th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police are now an officially recognised clan. MickR and Arwedda are currently returning to HQ.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 23rd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither Arwedda or MickR have enough XP to set up the clan today, but we're hoping to A.S.A.P. We're going hunting for a short time so that we can get 'Clan Leadership' we shall return to York soon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 22nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a long and painful trip we finally got him, JB Aristide is down! For the first time in the history of the Colonial Police, the 'Most Wanted' list is empty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 21st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We finally found him! Lord Paul Reefer has been brought to justice. His last know location was at [-70.383,+26.304].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 14th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Membership Drive.''' Currently accepting any and every application to join the CPHQ, except those made by convicts. This drive is in response to the rampant crime that has overtaken the peoples of York. Your town needs '''you''' to help keep the peace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some debate as to whether or not W B Hazen was guilty for killing BlackJack inside the CPHQ. Arwedda acted by instinct. W B Hazen... if, in fact, you were not guilty, the Colonial Police apologise for any inconvenience they may have caused.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 11th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After further investigation by Mick, it seems that natives belonging to a dangerous group called The [[Raktamites]] are camping out in various huts around York. If you have the time, check any huts near-by and make sure there are no dangerous natives inside. Do not attack them unless you are SURE they are PKers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 9th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Phutnanog was finally brought to justice today. Hopefully he has now learnt that murders in York will always be avenged.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 7th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The crime-rate in York is currently at an all time high. The CP is doing all they can to stop the murders.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 3rd, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two new members joined the Colonial Police today.&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to [[Slavik]] and [[czech1]]. Together we can help protect the citizens of York, and eventually reduce crime in York on a massive scale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 29th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It seems that a clan of Natives lead by Phutnanog, known as the '[[Raktamites]]' has been on a killing spree in York.&lt;br /&gt;
If you have any information that would give us a lead towards the capture of Phutnanog and the other murderous members of his group please contact Mick or Arwedda at the Colonial Police HQ in York (-70.374,+26.313).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 25th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clan established.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]] [[Category:Officially recognized clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7928</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7928"/>
		<updated>2006-07-01T00:18:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au,you can also find me at the GPS coordinates: [-70.399,+26.272] on a little island just offshore york.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
==30th June,2006:== the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Orcrist&amp;diff=7915</id>
		<title>User talk:Orcrist</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Orcrist&amp;diff=7915"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:31:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Orcrist,as you should know i betrayed te CP,i have formed a clan that will destroy yours for good called [[THE LORDS OF DESTRUCTION!]] you will simply die by it! [[User:Riddick|Riddick]] 12:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7914</id>
		<title>Category:Clans for outsiders</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7914"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:28:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Clans for outsiders''' do not allow natives as members.&lt;br /&gt;
[[THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!]]: we are davoted to keeping riot in york!,we will kill all CP members!!!.&lt;br /&gt;
(can you please put this in the 'T' section where all the clans are,with out the description though....)&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clansnav}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7913</id>
		<title>Category:Clans for outsiders</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7913"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:27:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Clans for outsiders''' do not allow natives as members.&lt;br /&gt;
[[THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!]]: we are davoted to keeping riot in york!,we will all CP members!!!.&lt;br /&gt;
(can you please put this in the 'T' section where all the clans are,with out the description though....)&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clansnav}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7912</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7912"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:24:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
we are devoted to keeping riot in york,however all CP police men,are our most hated citizens,kill them on sight,so,we will also be getting a forum soon.... and i have claimed an island just offshore york,as soon as i get a GPS unit i'll tell you in the contact box.&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==MEMBERS==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Riddick]](Founder)&lt;br /&gt;
no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==Our friends==&lt;br /&gt;
The Reefer Terror Cell,Lord paul reefer(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Jb artside&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
==OUR ENEMIES!!!==&lt;br /&gt;
Colonial Police,mickR(founder)&lt;br /&gt;
Arwedda&lt;br /&gt;
and no more YET....&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
==NEWS!==&lt;br /&gt;
==30th June,2006:== the Destruction lords clan is made!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7911</id>
		<title>THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=THE_DESTRUCTION_LORDS!&amp;diff=7911"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:15:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=TDL|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=[[riddick]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=1,and hopefully growing....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=destroy every living soul in york.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=We recruit every evil minded york citizen,ONLY evil minded....|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=riddick295@yahoo.com.au}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7910</id>
		<title>Category:Clans for outsiders</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Category:Clans_for_outsiders&amp;diff=7910"/>
		<updated>2006-06-30T12:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Clans for outsiders''' do not allow natives as members.&lt;br /&gt;
[[THE DESTRUCTION LORDS!]]: we are davoted to keeping riot in york!,we will all CP members!!!.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clansnav}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Items&amp;diff=7648</id>
		<title>Suggestions:Items</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Items&amp;diff=7648"/>
		<updated>2006-06-20T10:47:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* 303 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Suggestions header|page_type=Items}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***As per Elembis. For example, a meat item could be eaten raw for 1HP per 1 inventory space, or returned to a cooking pot (imho only in native camps...). Drinking from a cooking pot could restore 2HP, until &amp;quot;The pot is currently empty&amp;quot;. Non-meat items could not be added to the cooking pot -- the game menu functionality would be limited by the user interface (for example, Add Meat to Cooking Pot doesn't appear or doesn't work until you have meat in inventory, and adds meat to the cooking pot when clicked). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:37, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We should keep in mind that eating from a pot should heal faster than searching for and applying herbs and kits, or else players in need of healing won't bother. (6 searches per FAK/herb means 7 AP per 5/10 HP healed for non-scavengers, so 2 HP per bowl of food should be fine.) Also, I think that pots should treat pirates like normal outsiders, that all camps should have pots (since outsiders are surely capable of cooking meat), that the item should be &amp;quot;piece of meat&amp;quot;, that the description for a square with a pot should read something like &amp;quot;There is a fire here with a large pot over it.&amp;quot;, and that the button should read &amp;quot;Add Meat to Pot&amp;quot; (or perhaps that feature should just be linked to the &amp;quot;meat&amp;quot; button in the inventory list). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Apparently this has been implemented - I just got a tiger tooth amulet from the pirate trader.  He doesn't have any others, alas... *brag* [[User:Ssarl|Ssarl]], 12:19, June 16&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
''You hear random drumming in the distance.''&lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#All natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can drum a message for 1 AP per character. Outsiders without ''Native Knowledge'' either (1) have their beats carry a shorter distance or (2) have a 20% chance of breaking their drum. (I prefer the second option, assuming drums would be expensive items. I'd rather have drums be completely off-limits for such outsiders, but I can't think of a realistic reason for them to be unable to bang on a drum.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:54, 9 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''description:'''    a 303's nickname is actually: elepahant rifle,[in real life],a 303 is able to blow a elephants head of 1 shot in the neck i am suggesting this for the further success of the CP against the reefer terror cell,though it could turn against us if lord paul reefer get's his hands on it or one of his group members!.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***As per Elembis. For example, a meat item could be eaten raw for 1HP per 1 inventory space, or returned to a cooking pot (imho only in native camps...). Drinking from a cooking pot could restore 2HP, until &amp;quot;The pot is currently empty&amp;quot;. Non-meat items could not be added to the cooking pot -- the game menu functionality would be limited by the user interface (for example, Add Meat to Cooking Pot doesn't appear or doesn't work until you have meat in inventory, and adds meat to the cooking pot when clicked). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:37, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We should keep in mind that eating from a pot should heal faster than searching for and applying herbs and kits, or else players in need of healing won't bother. (6 searches per FAK/herb means 7 AP per 5/10 HP healed for non-scavengers, so 2 HP per bowl of food should be fine.) Also, I think that pots should treat pirates like normal outsiders, that all camps should have pots (since outsiders are surely capable of cooking meat), that the item should be &amp;quot;piece of meat&amp;quot;, that the description for a square with a pot should read something like &amp;quot;There is a fire here with a large pot over it.&amp;quot;, and that the button should read &amp;quot;Add Meat to Pot&amp;quot; (or perhaps that feature should just be linked to the &amp;quot;meat&amp;quot; button in the inventory list). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#All natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can drum a message for 1 AP per character. Outsiders without ''Native Knowledge'' either (1) have their beats carry a shorter distance or (2) have a 20% chance of breaking their drum. (I prefer the second option, assuming drums would be expensive items. I'd rather have drums be completely off-limits for such outsiders, but I can't think of a realistic reason for them to be unable to bang on a drum.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''description:'''    a 303's nickname is actually: elepahant rifle,[in real life],a 303 is able to blow a elephants head of 1 shot in the neck i am suggesting this for the further success of the CP against the reefer terror cell,though it could turn against us if lord paul reefer get's his hands on it or one of his group members!.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***As per Elembis. For example, a meat item could be eaten raw for 1HP per 1 inventory space, or returned to a cooking pot (imho only in native camps...). Drinking from a cooking pot could restore 2HP, until &amp;quot;The pot is currently empty&amp;quot;. Non-meat items could not be added to the cooking pot -- the game menu functionality would be limited by the user interface (for example, Add Meat to Cooking Pot doesn't appear or doesn't work until you have meat in inventory, and adds meat to the cooking pot when clicked). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:37, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We should keep in mind that eating from a pot should heal faster than searching for and applying herbs and kits, or else players in need of healing won't bother. (6 searches per FAK/herb means 7 AP per 5/10 HP healed for non-scavengers, so 2 HP per bowl of food should be fine.) Also, I think that pots should treat pirates like normal outsiders, that all camps should have pots (since outsiders are surely capable of cooking meat), that the item should be &amp;quot;piece of meat&amp;quot;, that the description for a square with a pot should read something like &amp;quot;There is a fire here with a large pot over it.&amp;quot;, and that the button should read &amp;quot;Add Meat to Pot&amp;quot; (or perhaps that feature should just be linked to the &amp;quot;meat&amp;quot; button in the inventory list). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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1.Rifle skills- reason: the ap you spent getting the xp for those skills was better used searching for a heavy sword.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Apparently this has been implemented - I just got a tiger tooth amulet from the pirate trader.  He doesn't have any others, alas... *brag* [[User:Ssarl|Ssarl]], 12:19, June 16&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#All natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can drum a message for 1 AP per character. Outsiders without ''Native Knowledge'' either (1) have their beats carry a shorter distance or (2) have a 20% chance of breaking their drum. (I prefer the second option, assuming drums would be expensive items. I'd rather have drums be completely off-limits for such outsiders, but I can't think of a realistic reason for them to be unable to bang on a drum.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***As per Elembis. For example, a meat item could be eaten raw for 1HP per 1 inventory space, or returned to a cooking pot (imho only in native camps...). Drinking from a cooking pot could restore 2HP, until &amp;quot;The pot is currently empty&amp;quot;. Non-meat items could not be added to the cooking pot -- the game menu functionality would be limited by the user interface (for example, Add Meat to Cooking Pot doesn't appear or doesn't work until you have meat in inventory, and adds meat to the cooking pot when clicked). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:37, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***We should keep in mind that eating from a pot should heal faster than searching for and applying herbs and kits, or else players in need of healing won't bother. (6 searches per FAK/herb means 7 AP per 5/10 HP healed for non-scavengers, so 2 HP per bowl of food should be fine.) Also, I think that pots should treat pirates like normal outsiders, that all camps should have pots (since outsiders are surely capable of cooking meat), that the item should be &amp;quot;piece of meat&amp;quot;, that the description for a square with a pot should read something like &amp;quot;There is a fire here with a large pot over it.&amp;quot;, and that the button should read &amp;quot;Add Meat to Pot&amp;quot; (or perhaps that feature should just be linked to the &amp;quot;meat&amp;quot; button in the inventory list). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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1.Rifle skills- reason: the ap you spent getting the xp for those skills was better used searching for a heavy sword.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Apparently this has been implemented - I just got a tiger tooth amulet from the pirate trader.  He doesn't have any others, alas... *brag* [[User:Ssarl|Ssarl]], 12:19, June 16&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All outsiders|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=22:23, 9 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
''You hear random drumming in the distance.''&lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#All natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can drum a message for 1 AP per character. Outsiders without ''Native Knowledge'' either (1) have their beats carry a shorter distance or (2) have a 20% chance of breaking their drum. (I prefer the second option, assuming drums would be expensive items. I'd rather have drums be completely off-limits for such outsiders, but I can't think of a realistic reason for them to be unable to bang on a drum.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:54, 9 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=06:18, 1 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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''''description:''''    a 303's nickname is actually: elepahant rifle,[in real life],a 303 is able to blow a elephants head of 1 shot in the neck i am suggesting this for the further success of the CP against the reefer terror cell,though it could turn against us if lord paul reefer get's his hands on it or one of his group members!.&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you correcting your recent signature on [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Boat Construction]]. Rather than manually type the time and link to your user page, you can simpy type &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your comment to have that information added automatically. ([[Help:Editing]] has more information you might find useful.) &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 03:12, 10 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
thanks i'll use that next time! [[User:Riddick|Riddick]] 04:33, 10 June 2006 (BST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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I noticed you correcting your recent signature on [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Boat Construction]]. Rather than manually type the time and link to your user page, you can simpy type &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; at the end of your comment to have that information added automatically. ([[Help:Editing]] has more information you might find useful.) &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 03:12, 10 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
thanks i'll use that next time!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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=== Conversion ===&lt;br /&gt;
When an Outsider/Native dies they are reborn as a Native (don't really understand the spirit thing too well). The Outsiders then get a new class/skill, &amp;quot;Religious Conversion&amp;quot; that requires a &amp;quot;Holy Scripture&amp;quot;. This allows a &amp;quot;Priest&amp;quot; to convert one native into a Outsider&amp;quot;. The converted native would most likely start off as a Settler. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* I believe that Natives are reborn as Natives and Outsiders are reborn as Outsiders, but I could be wrong. From a game balance perspective, I am not in favor of type-swapping skills unless Natives are presented with an ability to counter or convert Outsiders as well. It does fit nicely with the theme though. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:41, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* That would probably be the shamans job, however it may have worked for Urban Dead but I don't think it will work in this game as whichever group has the most players to begin with will, once conflicts begin to arise, dominate by switching people from the side they are on the side the priest/&amp;quot;whatever the natives use&amp;quot; side making you able to graph one groups population by looking at the graph pop=(1/2)^x. Also since there wouldn't seem to be a way, short of finding a converter player to switch you back, to go back to playing as you once did would make the amount of people on one side quickly die off (even though thats what would happen in real life, favouring the outsiders) it would be a very unfun aspect of the game. And really these are HOSTILE natives, or so it seems, why would they let some devilman outsider tell it how it is? They wouldn't, they would simply spear them and laugh! In short all the converting ideas suck, I know I wouldn't want to log on to find I'm playing for the wrong side. -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 10:55, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* So that means if my soldier dies, he's reborn as a native? Not only that, but to become an outsider again, first I would have to find a priest (which would be next to impossible with such a small number of players), and then he could convert me into a settler. That means I'll never be able to be a soldier again, which is a real punch in the throat for RPers. -- Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
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*All valid points. I guess this wouldn't really work we have the same number of players as Urban Dead. But this would be a great way to balance out the sides later on. Say there are too many natives, you just drop more &amp;quot;conversion items&amp;quot; and balance out the sides. Too many Outsiders? Just drop the number of conversion items. Doubt it would catch on though. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 02:44, 19 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Conversion doesn't have to be forced.  It could require action on both sides, like a native doning a religious item and an outsider using the skill on that native.  After all, conversion isn't real without true faith. The native counter to this could be similar, requiring an outsider to die holding a packet of that headshrinking powder while a shaman uses the Zombification (ala Haitian witchcraft) skill.  -- frisco&lt;br /&gt;
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*You don't change class or anything when you die. --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:31, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I gave a response t othis idea under &amp;quot;Holy Scriptures,&amp;quot; I think, offering another idea for it that may piss a lot less people off. *points over there*--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:15, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Capturing villages ===&lt;br /&gt;
Since this is like some war between Outsiders and Natives I thought this appropriate. If all the (say) Outsiders are killed in York and there are none left, then it becomes a Native village and vice versa. Probably needs harder requirements to capture settlements though. Maybe each side could have one permanent place that can never change hands? --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:41, 1 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not sure about this - what about all the idle players within the village? They might &amp;quot;wake up&amp;quot; after a couple of weeks to find they're in enemy territory. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:00, 1 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could have it so idle players goto the nearest friendly village-- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:58, 3 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Turf control in a limited AP browser game like this just invites lame zerging behavior. I don't like it. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 00:00, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not villages, perhaps 3x3 square 'forts'? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 01:10, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I do like the idea, but I think Jackel's observation hits a key point. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Agreed with Jackel and Lint and Simon. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT) Additionally:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Please don't impose your assumption that Shartak is at heart a &amp;quot;war between Outsiders and Natives&amp;quot; on the rest of us.  That is not the only possible direction in which this game can go.  For example, an Outsider village might turn out to be populated by a trading company that views the other Outsider villages as competitors whose extermination would be good for business, but it could just as easily develop into a peaceful scientific outpost, a pirate haven of drunken debauchery, or a missionary settlement devoted to finding the Natives and learning their language (gotta spread that old time religion).  I believe it would be better to keep the objectives more freeform, and let the players create the course of history. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
::* On a hopefully more helpful and positive note, one could simulate/approximate capturing a village by amassing an army of suitable size, carving messages of ownership all over the territory of the village in question, killing all members of the village, and repeatedly killing the village shaman so they can't get back as easily. (Ouch. I hope no armchair megalomaniacs out there have been taking notes.) --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Unique skills ===&lt;br /&gt;
I think that each class should start off with one unique skill that the others may never aquire. That way it stops all the classes from becoming too generic. For example Settlers could have a &amp;quot;farming&amp;quot; skill, Soldiers could have a &amp;quot;bravery&amp;quot; skill, etc. Or mabey they could just have a attribute like Soldiers have an extra 10% chance of striking the target, Warriors have an extra 10% chance  of finding animals, Settlers have an extra 10% chance of finding an item, Scouts have a 3% chance of recovering 1 HP per AP spent, etc. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 02:34, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am in favor of this (if it is not in effect currently). We'd have to work out the details to make sure each class is getting their fair share, but something that encourages players to try other classes or team up with other players using different classes for a better playing experience sounds good to me. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am in favor of each class being able to acquire (but not necessarily starting off with) a unique skill or attribute that the others may never acquire. Sounds to me like the kind of thing that would be  unlocked as one's reward for a rite of passage, rather than granted as a right of birth. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 12:53, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps a Research skill of some kind for the Scientist, maybe allowing them an advantage when doing things with dead animals (would need something to do with dead animals, obviously!).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 16:09, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pirates should have a skill to steal their fallen enemies' gold coins. Arr. Would probably result in a lot of outsider in-fighting, though, and outsiders are currently outnumbered.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:18, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with this as well. It seems Shartak is on the way to giving each class their own benefits (Soldiers/Warriors with gun skills, Settlers/Villagers with animal affinity etc.), but so far only a few have been made unique. At present there is really no point to being a scientist. He starts with 10 gold coins... what the? So I'm pushing for each class to have at least one unique skill they can purchase with XP. --[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]] 11:50, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=I will combine aspects of the '''Animal''' and '''Pirate''' suggestions and propose a pet system that allows you to tame one of the animals on the island. First, you have to weaken the animal. Then you throw a sphere device at it and shout &amp;quot;SHARTAK SPHERE! GO!&amp;quot; for 1 AP. There's a slight chance that you have captured and tamed the animal. The more powerful the animal, the less success chance. You earn no XP for taming an animal. Players can only have 1 pet at a time. They can release a pet whenever they want. If the owner dies, the pet runs away. Pets have fixed HP, attack, and accuracy based on the type of animal they are (ie. they do not level up or heal, just to keep it simple to design). They follow the player around and only attack when the player attacks. It would be nice if they attacked while you were not playing, but auto-defense mechanisms are unnecessary. Enemy animals randomly determine whether they are attacking the owner or the pet. Other players will have an option for targeting the owner or pet. There is no XP gained for attacking or killing a pet to deter any attempts at farming pet killing (I can't believe we even have to consider preventing such a thing). For added flavor, owners can name their pets.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*ROTFL. Sounds a bit like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh (don't worry, I'm not a fan, I have kids that were!).  Perhaps instead of spheres, you could keep the monkeys on a leash, heal a tiger or elephant to make it less likely to attack you, tame deer by feeding them, etc. Some animals like the wild boar would have to be pretty difficult to tame. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:14, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I was with you right up until you got to the &amp;quot;sphere device&amp;quot; bit, and I rejoined you afterwards. ;) The rest of your suggestion otherwise seems to be pretty well thought out.  Personally, I'd prefer to attempt to tame the animal into becoming a pet purely by offering it food, rather than &amp;quot;weakening&amp;quot; it by other means.  Especially since food is scarce enough that offering it to an animal would be a real sacrifice and therefore an interesting decision for the player to make. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:49, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I will confess that I had a lot of fun with the references. The problem I have with using an existing item to tame a pet is how to implement it. The player can't click on the fruit, because that will just heal themselves. And I think it is unecessary to redesign fruits like First Aid Kits and Medical Herbs, just so they can feed it to an animal. And a database check to see if the player possesses a fruit before providing a &amp;quot;tame&amp;quot; command seems awkward. Perhaps there is just one item called &amp;quot;animal bait&amp;quot; (from the Trade Hut most likely). It works much like a FAK or Herb, but can only be applied to animals (though there will be a &amp;quot;Yourself&amp;quot; option by default for those players that decide they enjoy the taste). Animals will then have a value called &amp;quot;tame count&amp;quot; in the database. For each successful feeding, this number is incremented. When a specific number is reached, the monster is successfully tamed. If a monster is killed, the number is reset to 0. Acquiring a pet should not reduce the population of animals on the island (ie. one should respawn to take its place). Furthermore, those with '''Animal Affinity''' should have a better taming success rate. (This is another attempt to give Villagers and Settlers a little boost.) --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*This idea, while somewhat interesting, is not very realitic. The animals of the island are wild. In reality, tigers, elephants, deer, &amp;quot;WILD boars&amp;quot; etc can only be made LESS WILD by extensive and careful training and handling when they are young, not be tamable by any means, certainly not enough to follow a person around and fight on their behalf. Maybe it would be possible with parrots and monkeys, but if Simon is going to implement changes, I'd rather see some of the more believable ones first. I do agree with Lint that it would give more value to '''Animal Affinity'''. Animal attacks, even from a tiger or elephant (which would realistically be very dangerous) are hardly to be feared, making this skill currently seem pretty useless.&lt;br /&gt;
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as the name reades, simply have &amp;quot;pets&amp;quot; as a survivor living in the jungle, my first instinct would be to find support, in this case we could add a &amp;quot;tame animal&amp;quot; button, which would be clicked to tame an animal, the starting catching % would be something like 10% and could be improved the more the animal is damaged, like at 1hp, if full health was 10hp then you'd have 55% of catching it, (i added 5% for every 10% missing from the creature's health)&lt;br /&gt;
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certain animals could be ridden, other would do funny things or find objects for you, ex:&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Bobo the monkey finds a bottle of rum in your pocket &amp;quot;gee i didnt know i had that&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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elephants, large stags, and tigers could be ridden, small stags would haveto grow up before being ridden, after like, 10 days, or 20 kills they would mature, its all just theory...&lt;br /&gt;
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parrots could become like flares, ex: Mr. TweetTweet flies towards you and drops a message &amp;quot;help, im at X, Y and there's a native village!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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the parrot could also say messages randomly, players (upon catching a parrot) would be given 10 slots and would type things into them, the parrots would randomly say one, ex:&lt;br /&gt;
you attack elephant, Mr. TweetTweet says &amp;quot;polly want a cracker&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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animals could also act like extra space, like a backpack, if you will.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Profile Effect Items ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Inventory and profiles|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=These are useless baubles that take up 1 unit of a player's inventory space, but if anyone views their profile they will see that the players possesses the item. Using the item won't accomplish anything and merely produce flavor text. However, if a player is in the presence of another player, using the item would show it off. As with all items, there's no way to trade them with other players. We can have eyepatches and peglegs. We can have tribal masks and warpaint. Maybe some clans would require a certain dress code. Maybe they need 30 pieces of flair. I think it provides an outlet for the less serious gamers. Problems: Serious gamers might be plagued with finding such items and dropping them, wasting (in their opinion) AP and Page Hits. Also, arguing over what items fit with the theme of Shartak will be a headache-inducing process.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* I like this suggestion. How about finding the pieces of the masks and making your own - combine the baubles with mini-quests? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For example, to make the sacred warrior mask of Raktam, you must find 5 parrot feathers, a tiger tooth, some berries and a piece of driftwood that can be carved into the appropriate shape with a knife or dagger. Once you have all those items, you get a &amp;quot;create mask&amp;quot; option which then removes the required items and the mask appears in your inventory (and profile).&lt;br /&gt;
::Having the database check to see if they have all the ingredients seems a bit unwieldly. After every action or inventory use it might have to run the check to verify that they are alive, still have the items, etc. I'd just settle for having them take the items to a specific NPC. But yes, a mixing quest would be fun. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* I just hope that this idea motivates players to try new things (&amp;quot;I'm going to join a clan that wears such-and-such a mask and attack the others! Yarr!&amp;quot;) and not feel that the game is just about collecting items (&amp;quot;Well, I got all the masks. I guess I'm done with the game.&amp;quot;). --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Maybe the different masks have different effects, from some simple ones (attracting/scaring animals, making them less likely to attack or easier to hit) to the downright blatavt video game reference that turns you into a huge brown rocky guy who can punch boulders apart. OK, maybe not the second one. [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:53, 9 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that's something to be worked on in a separate suggestion. The point of this suggestion is to make useless &amp;quot;fancy hats&amp;quot; that neither add or take away from the established gameplay. However, in the eyes of certain players, they may be invaluable because of how they can incorperate such items into their goals and roleplaying. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:52, 9 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Bumping this good suggestion. Let's have some cowrie shells! (And The_Conch(tm), see next suggestion.) The barren ruins and huts seem so sad and pathetic right now, they need some wacky useless trinkets to tide us over... Maybe we need shovels to dig for treasure, too. Yarr! --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:06, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Conch Shell Hunt ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Event|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=''Capture the Flag''-ish minigame. Somewhere on the island is a single conch shell item. It can be found by searching anywhere. It takes 1 inventory space and appears when anyone views their profile. When the conch holder is in the presence of other players, flavor text is added to the area description to inform the others that the conch holder is in the area. If the person in possession of the conch drops it, dies, or is idle for more than 5 days, the conch returns to the system. The person who holds the conch the longest gets recognized in the statistics. Killing the conch holder earns special bonus XP. Adept conch holder killers may also be recognized in the statistics. Problems: Someone with multiple characters could take advantage of having the conch on one character and reap the XP and fame with another. There will be a point where a race condition will occur and might result in multiple conches and a broken game.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* This kind of thing has been on my ideas list, although this is much more detailed version than the one-liner I had. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:05, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*''I'' have the conch! I'm allowed to speak! *ahem* I mean, um... &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:21, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Suggestions: (1) Skip bonus for the conch-killer and you remove incentive to zerg. (2) Have the conch break when the conch-bearer dies (respawns on a random beach) and you remove the race condition. (3) Give the conch-bearer an action to blow into the Conch. (You hear the booming echo of a conch being sounded to the south-east.) Maybe 50% chance of 1xp each time you blow the conch, just to give you incentive to attract attention to yourself. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 02:31, 23 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Know your foes ===&lt;br /&gt;
As a native, I get killed a lot by outsiders, but I just can't strike back when I come back to life, as nothing allows me to identify my agressors amongst the outsiders I meet. I expected some basic language skill to give me access to clickable outsiders profiles, but it doesn't. So. I don't like much the fact that, in this game, the only alternative you have is &amp;quot;attack random outsiders&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;attack none&amp;quot;. I'd like to be able to protect myself without being too unfair to peaceful outsiders (and being part of some snowball effect).&lt;br /&gt;
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This would be partly solved by some profile access (allowing to check people's amount of human kills), or some limited displayed info on the present players (it would make -almost- sense for natives to automatically carry visible scalps or shrunken head of their victims, but I'm not sure how to justify the kills display in the case of outsiders, despite of the fact white men were actually quite fond of indian scalps at some time). Another useful tool would be some urban-dead-like contact list.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, ideally (but absurdly) the most useful stat to be able to see would be the number of kills of people without human kills at the moment of their death, but...  -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps seeing the profile of someone on the opposite side if you or they have the advanced language skill would be good, it would be cool to hang around with some natives without worrying about aggressors. --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 21:30, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you had a contact list and some way to target individuals on your list ala Urban Dead, I'm guessing that would probably help. Not so sure about the scalp display approach. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:36, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A contact list would be quite useful in Shartak. But also being able to read profiles, maybe through an &amp;quot;observe&amp;quot; button and scroll-down menu. For the moment, people just hit each other once, hoping to miss, in order to get a link to the other guy's profile. There must be a more rationnal way to quench this curiosity. -- Gone 13:36, 10 May 2006 (GMT+1)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Forest Fire ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Game mechanics, natural disasters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Terrain|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a potential temporary minigame that will either lead to players to band together and save the island or perhaps just lead to all-out chaos. A fire script is created which designates one block as fire (it is identified by a little fire.gif in the background). Every 20 minutes the fire script will check if there is &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Grassland or&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; Jungle nearby with density from 1-10. If there is, it spreads to the next block. It will not spread to any other terrain (including villages and ruins). Thus, the best way to prevent the spread of the fire is by chopping vegetation down to 0. The initial fires will be placed randomly around the island. Actions performed in a fire occupied space deal 2 damage. For this event to be more devious, there should be a means to quickly restore vegetation (dropping driftwood, planting fruit, watering with gourds).|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like some things about this suggestion, I think it could work really nicely if there was also a rain algorithingamajig, so that maybe, if some part of the island dried out, wildfires could break out, or if it rained too much villages could flood and get swamped. Its a neat idea. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 04:55, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I like the idea of rain and fire, however there's no telling if the server would handle the database access/calculations required when the number of players gets into the range that Urban Dead has. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:17, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I thought it might be a bit much. Ah well. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Not the idea of fire itself, that may well be quite feasible. I meant having rain causing flooding, or not enough rain leading to fires might be a bit awkward.. unless I can think of some way to reduce the work that needs to be done regularly. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:38, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe fires could also destroy huts, and then there could be a skill to rebuild them. Maybe even give people the ability to start their own fires. It might make for interesting tribal wars. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:22, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Imagine what would happen if an ammo hut caught on fire!--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 04:32, 1 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** I kind of wanted to restrict fires to the Jungle (removed my Grasslands comment from the original suggestion) since a lot of Huts provide resources for starting players and players that have just been revived. I think it would be unfair to prevent them with the opportunity to gather supplies. As a tactic, it may also be unfair. Native villages appear to be completely surrounded by burnable Jungle, while Outsider villages are bordered by the Beach. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:46, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Good point. The pirates would be completely free of burning too. I still think a way to temporarily damage structures could be fun -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 19:59, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** As a general rule, real world jungles don't burn terribly well, although there are a few notable exceptions (such as the Indonesian forest fires in 1997-98).  Grasslands, however, burn quite regularly, and in fact such fires are necessary for the good health of the grass.  Fire kills off sapling trees in the area which would otherwise grow to the point that they overshadowed and killed the grass.  I don't know whether the game has any grasslands large enough to make this kind of thing interesting, though.  --[[User:Jackdaw|Jackdaw]] 15:55, 25 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Ghost Elephant ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Somewhere on the island is an animal that exists purely as a temporary event. The Legendary Ghost Elephant - in reality, an aggressive albino pachyderm of incredible size - is said to roam the island of Shartak. Some Natives revere it, others desire to be recorded as the one who slayed it. Some Outsiders wish to study it, others desire to have it as a trophy. It behaves much like any other elephant on Shartak. However, it has a different label, an unfathomable amount of HP, and deals horrific damage. If you heal the Ghost Elephant with a FAK or Herbs, you receive double XP. And to further serve a challenge, don't place an HP cap on the Ghost Elephant, just give it a starting amount. If possible, a log of all actions performed on the Ghost Elephant should be kept by the server and revealed in the event that it dies.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*Ha! I like this one, Lint, and simple to implement. It should really have a boatload of HP, as I think few will consider expending valuable healing items on it, when its far easier (and more rewarding) to hack away at it for 40 AP then make a run for it! --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 16:42, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Arr! I would ride that ghost beast like a horse jus' fer fun, then slay 't t' sell its tusks t' them outsiders an' th' meat t' them natives. --[[User:El Pirata Cofresi|El Pirata Cofresi]] 17:46, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the Congo they refer to it as Mokele Mbembe - he who stops the flow of rivers - and it is rumoured to be a lost dinosaur.  The island could do with some cryptozoology. Would this creature be able to disappear or hide or move incredibly fast?  If not, then once one person finds it, they can just call everyone over to the same square.  This kind of defeats the mythical aspect as well as adding potential server problems. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:24, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I should make the animals attack back in near-realtime first (as in you attack them and they may or may not get an attack in).. just to add a bit of interest to it and stop people running up to the creature and hacking and then running away. Making an animal with an almost unlimited number of HP would be possible.. I guess probably start it with at least double a normal elephant and max of about a thousand HP to prevent people healing it to the point where it'd be impossible to kill. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:37, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*It could be cool, especially if it moved around in a way that made tracking it possible, maybe by destroying the foliage, or moving in a pattern. Also having it move might help keep people from all winding up in one square beating it up. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:41, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I've tried to offset the game's focus on combat by encouraging healing (double XP may be too much of a reward, so I'm willing to remove that), but that alone will most likely be not enough to counter the horde of blood-thirsty savages!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Healing with the Herbs and FAKs may actually be seen as healing the Ghost Elephant spiritually rather than merely physically, which is why it's health can grow high. I don't see a problem if it became near-unkillable. I like keeping some myths and legends around.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I thought that it would be best if it traveled like an elephant, but it is true that it limits the people that are able to participate in the event. Perhaps it should &amp;quot;teleport&amp;quot;, after a certain amount of time in an area - &amp;quot;A wall of fog sweeps in through jungle. When it fades, you see that the Ghost Elephant has vanished as well.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I requested for a log of actions to determine who killed it, who attacked it the most, who healed it the most, and who got hurt the most. Also, rather than a recurring animal, I thought it would be best to release it as an event that occurs every now and then. Or maybe only once! --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Hmm, when the elephant reappears, it should give a loud trumpet which can be heard over a certain radius to increase the chance of players coming across it. Unless of course players would prefer that it were more stealthy. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:25, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like it. And of course, you needn't stick to land animals; a mysterious sea creature that patrols the island waters and is reported to be 30ft long could prompt more people to vernture into the waters for a glimpse/trophy etc. Sharks will also be a problem for those searching! --[[User:Malphas|Malphas]] 15:52, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Great idea!--[[User:Paradox244|Paradox244]] 21:04, 24 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Auto Attack ===&lt;br /&gt;
I've never liked the fact that while I am away from the game, things can happen to my character, like being chewed on by a tiger or slashed with a machette.  How about a setting where you can turn your character on to auto attack anything that hits you.  It should, of course, be user selected.  This would change the game mechanics a bit, as you could no longer move in on a target and attack it withough fear of a counter-strike.  To me this is far more realistic, in that even if you are sleeping, when somebody hits you, you're going to wake up and do something about it with whatever engery you have left.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* The main problem with this is that players will be discouraged from attacking other players, as this will become extremely dangerous, and the native warrior who wants the outsiderts out will effectively be penalised.[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 15:47, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sorry, but I don't like this. I feel that that this will lead to interactions with players that are no different than interacting with an NPC. Could someone theoretically max themselves out by just leaving this option on and checking in every now and then to make sure they haven't become a spirit? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:28, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yeah, I'm not a fan of being able to do something by not doing something, such as fighting or running without being there to fight or run. Also, would it be free of AP and IP hits, or would it be possible to come back and have no AP or hits left? It seems like these problems would wreck any sort of auto action. I can understand not enjoying being macheted while away, but I don't see any way around this. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:20, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I must admit that I don't like the idea all that much, but if it was implemented it would probably be something that was user configurable. I don't think running away would make sense, but fighting back does. For example, no more than X AP to be used fighting back until you next log back in, and they wouldn't be used unless you had more than Y AP left. This way you could set X to 10 and Y to 6 and if you ran out of AP, set those values, it would be 2 hours (6 x 20m) before you were likely to attack, and it would use no more than 10 AP fighting back. Because the values are configurable, it would be hard to know who would fight back and who wouldn't. Setting X to 0 would disable the feature. I think probably the attacks would gain XP if successful, same as normal, but because you wouldn't be able to set the number of AP to use to more than your max AP value, it would be impossible to level up a character by simply leaving them alone (not to mention you would disappear from the map after being idle for a bit). --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:01, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* i like the idea of counterattack , but with some limits. You have only a % of counterattacking someone (25%?) , you don't consume AP , you don't get XP. But , whit wich weapon do you attack?--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 10:05, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* The impetus behind auto-attack is to lessen the chance and impact of Badness happening to your character while you're away, but auto-attack isn't the proper solution to this.  Shartak's appropriate skill would be jungle hiding, though a construction skill would work too, if we want to be more like that other game. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 13:51, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* What the animals are doing now is basically what I was saying should be an option for players.  In fact, now that the animals counter-attack, it's become far more safe to attack a high-level soldier than it is to attack a parrot.  All the more reason to implement this feature.  It will also introduce more strategy into gameplay, such as how many AP to reserve for counter attacks, etc.  It could be as simple as: enable auto-attack (toggle), if enabled, select weapon (pull-down menu), select AP to stop self-defense (pull-down?).  If you select 0, you'd attack until exhausted or they left.  If you select some non-zero, you'd attack until you were down to that amount.  I kill a lot of other players, but I still say this would be very good for game mechanics, especially considering the new animal behavior.  --[[User:Qberry|Qberry]] 06:00, 1 June 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I would only agree with that one if it was only against animals. I don't think auto-defense was a good idea ''at all'', but now that it's in, I think that ours should only work against NPCs.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 20:11, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Unfortunately this could only exacerbate the Banshee Wailing Spam problems. An auto-defense option is worthless against spirits, and Banshee Wails could easily be the leading cause of damage and death in Shartak (during May 2006). Implement Exorcism before worrying about AP-costs and pull-down-menus for melee parry defense systems. --20:48, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Exactly. Actually, I've been thinking more on this. It's really a good thing that the animals are so dangerous now. The focus should be more on the struggle between natives and outsiders. Plus, it makes Animal Affinity that much better, which gives a good reason to play a villager or a settler.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:48, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I support this idea in theory, but of course it must be approached carefully. I like JonesDye's idea of not gaining XP for counter-attacks, and there are so many other factors to consider. QBerry-- you should start a thread about this in the forums to get all sides of the debate and get discussion going. This could be a great feature if implemented correctly. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:47, 4 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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this section is where &amp;quot;users&amp;quot; add &amp;quot;flavor&amp;quot; to the game, im just suggesting that every few steps the computer say a message depending on location, here ill give a few examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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**the grassy field sways under the wind's rush as you take a step.|&lt;br /&gt;
**something far off squaks and makes a strange throaty bellow.|&lt;br /&gt;
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**a wave crashes calmly in the distance|&lt;br /&gt;
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**the smell of gunpowder wafts into your lungs|&lt;br /&gt;
**the smoke comming from a nearby hut smells of fresh turkey|&lt;br /&gt;
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**the shaman's voice can be heard traveling through the village|&lt;br /&gt;
**you step on the bones of what appears to be a rattlesnake|&lt;br /&gt;
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**the hot sand burns your feet, yet feels wonderfully different|&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the noticeable, distinct aspects of that other game are the different messages for each building; i really like this idea.  A criticism, though - i'd refrain from mentioning living animals/people or useful items in the descriptions, they could be confusing to newbies.  In other words, &amp;quot;a parrot's call can be heard distantly&amp;quot; isn't appropriate, and &amp;quot;the shaman's voice can be heard traveling through the village&amp;quot; might not be appropriate if the shaman is currently dead. The following could substitute: &amp;quot;You see a large ant colony busily rebuilding their hive&amp;quot; (an animal that has no game impact) and &amp;quot;The spirit of Shubar is felt all around you&amp;quot; (doesn't matter if Shubar is alive or dead). --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 14:05, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I sort of feel like this is something that could easily be put together with a Greasemonkey script. It would be nice, but it isn't really necessary. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 05:35, 5 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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slots and inventory could be implemented where, a picture of a silhouette was shown, with names of equiped items in slotted areas, ex: you skin a goat, find some sharp rocks and fashion yourself some claws, you then put them on, giving you +1 damage to all melee attacks&lt;br /&gt;
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Making Claws? and not &amp;quot;all melee attacks&amp;quot; but only punch attacks --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:45, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see why you need item slots for this. Having a pair of claws in the inventory would just improve punch damage by 1. That said, I don't like the idea of making oneself claws. Seems a little silly, when you have actual weapons around. Seems a little silly, either way, really. Perhaps that's just my sense of aesthetics, though, and not that of the majority of the players.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:37, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Boats wouldn't be able to go into The very deep water people can't go into because the tides would rip them apart but could go move in all water for only 1 AP and it also prevents sharks from biting you. Multipule people could get into a boat based on how much wood is used, like &lt;br /&gt;
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When Boats are being boarded each player may vote on who they decide should  be the captain. The captian may move boat, call the boat any non vulgar name and anyone may jump off the boat at any time except the captain. Boats could only be built on a beach and automaticly once built move the person who constructed it into the nearest water square. Players may board the baot at any time by moving into the same square as it and selecting enter. When the captain moves the boat onto a land square the boat is destroyed and all people who boarded are thrown onto the beach. Players may change the captain at any time by changing there vote. Natives can not board Outsider boats and outsiders can not board native boats. What the boat looks like and is  called depends on the size of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*check out the skills section, i already suggested something like that.... anyway, check it out --[[User:Richard Rose|Richard Rose]]&lt;br /&gt;
*While the huts are handled in Richard's suggestion, I am interested in the boat aspect. I think that placing multiple players on a boat will be troublesome. Who decides where the boat goes - the server? the first player on the boat?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It's also important to keep in mind that we already are offered a skill to help with moving in water - '''Swimming'''. If we are to introduce rafts, there should be some mechanics set in place to minimize their usefulness.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Perhaps carrying a raft through non-water terrain doubles movement cost to discourage players from carrying one everywhere. Perhaps the raft only has a limited amount of moves in deep water before breaking up. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:44, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Yeah I changed the suggestion based on your suggestion's :) --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 04:40, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Welcome to the Shartak ferry sevice. Please pay the captain your fee of 3 coins. We will be departing for the pirate ship in 3 hours. The captain has locked the destination coordinates and will not change directions unless the boat's integrity is threatend. We will arive in 50 AP + 10 AP per passenger + 5 per day due to drift. You are encouraged to help paddle the boat as this will help us arive sooner. If you decide to leave the boat at any time we will not refund you or allow you to reboard. Please do not pull out any corks or kick any boards as the boat is fragile and will sink if badly damaged.&amp;quot;--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 05:06, 1 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Yeah ^^ That too --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 00:48, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Boats sound cool. There are a lot of different ways to implement boats that aren't that complicated. Here's one example: suppose that a boat can hold 4 people. Anyone who wants to control the boat spends 4 AP to move the boat one square (larger boats move more slowly). Thus the boat could wander back and forth depending on who currently has the helm, but is unlikely to travel faster than a swimmer. Anyone (native or outsider) can dive overboard or climb onboard at any time, and the boat can be chopped up and destroyed by enough effort. ... The way I envision it, a boat never leaves the water -- the boat gets constructed on a beach square and then can only be moved onto water. It is never an inventory item. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:31, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That's a good idea. I would go so far, though, as to say that it has to be constructed in shallow water.It would just make it easier. I would propose that the boat require four pieces of driftwood, plus two for every extra person. Thus a 1-man raft would be 4 pieces, a 2-man raft would be 6, a 3-man would be 8, and so on.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 18:26, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Although there's no reason not to require, umm, a boatload of wood for construction, rather than just 2 + 2 per person. If the boat has any advantages at all over swimming, you could easily require huge quantities of wood without game imbalance. The original suggester had 1000 pieces per person, that's over the top, but why not 18 wood per person or something. That means N sailors could build an N-person boat in a single day searching at Shartak's [[Boatyard]]. Although construction might require another day of additional AP, and a hammer... --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 23:07, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd be in favor of boat construction, but it should be ''significantly'' harder and MUCH more time consuming to work, really only the most hardcore players should try it. Realistically, a person should need about 20 pieces of wood to displace their own body weight, so 20 wood per person is about right. It should take at least a week of devoted searching to come up with this amount for one person, and would require a fair amount of organization to build a large craft, but come on, its a BOAT! Virtually no attacks from anyone ever! Easy access to hard-to-reach islands! It should be extremely rare and time-consuming to do this IMO.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 05:18, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* i reckon the boat idea would be great especially for the CP so we are land police of york and water police of york!,hopefully this does work out!. [[riddick]] 21:17 10 June,2006 (GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Currently, the blowpipe can only carry 1 dart, yet weighs the same amount of inventory space as a rifle with 2 bullets. If you were to pit a fully leveled Soldier armed with loaded rifles against a fully leveled Warrior armed with loaded blowpipes, the battle is in favor of the Soldier who requires less time to reload while inbattle and dealing superior damage. (rifle's 5 to blowpipe's 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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To address this, I would propose that poison darts actually cause poisoning. Poisoning would behave much like a shark bite - causing 1 HP damage per action performed until they are administered a FAK or medical herbs. A character can die if poison is left untreated. The attacker receives no additional XP for this kill or the damage dealt from poison. Poisoning would not stack, but it would be possible for a character to suffer from both poison and shark bites. The introduction of poison may require the dart's damage to be reduced to something substantially lower. Perhaps a default of 2 HP inflicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sounds great! I've heard that some of the toxicins used to poison darts can induce illutions. It would be interesting if poisoning increases AP usage for certain actions or even better imagined enemies (that Sixth Sence could pick out).--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 08:24, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Have you seen the size of the some of the blowpipes that certain tribes carry? They're anything from 6 to 10 foot long! It's hardly surprising that they occupy the same inventory space as a rifle :) On the other hand, poisoning from darts sounds like a good idea.. I don't know that they should poison forever though, maybe for a limited number of AP, but perhaps have the effect be cumulative up to a certain point? Get shot 5 times and you lose 1 HP for every AP used for 5 x whatever the limit is. Does that make sense? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:16, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Exactly - e.g., each poison dart that hits adds 2 AP to the poison duration, and while poisoned, you lose 1HP per AP used. The Poison Dart would eventually inflict 6 hp of damage, offsetting the extra damage and double barrel of the rifle. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 07:22, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That might work, that way the Warrior has incentive to continue using the blowpipe multiple times on a target rather than just switch to their machete after the poison takes effect. Add to the character table a boolean flag (Poison = True) and give it a Poison Timer int. When the timer reaches 0, the Poison gets flipped to False. When the character dies or a FAK or Herb is applied, the Poison gets flipped to False and the timer gets set to 0. If the flag is True and they're poisoned again, stack the timer. I'm going to put forth this suggestion to the Forum. I don't have a lot of experience with using the blowpipe (I'm a machete guy) so they should weigh in on this. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:17, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Or how about you can find [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_dart_frog#Toxicity frogs] and use them to put differnt posion effects on your darts? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 04:57, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*If we're adding poison dart frogs, I demand that they be lickable. It wouldn't be right, if you couldn't lick the poison dart frogs.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 20:14, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::* Ok... then some benifical frogs too! And people can't tell the diffrence between them unless they get some skill? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:27, 17 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bump! Awaiting a short lifespan (eg 4hp) additional poison effect for poison darts. And/or Native-only Poisoning skill so that Snake + Dart = uberdart that causes permanent poisoning (aka shark wound). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===PvP Protection===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Game mechanics, pvp, nopvp, vs, player versus player|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All Classes|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A full implementation of player versus player protection. This would be a nice feature for newbies allowing them time to adjust to the game without getting slaughtered. I envisage something allowing you to enable nopvp without the ability to disable for at least 100AP. Also when you hit a player who is flagged nopvp then you would get a message along the lines of &amp;quot;As your blade bounces off an invisible shield you suddenly notice a shamanic medicine pouch around the neck of target, they are protected, it would be pointless to continue to attack target.&amp;quot; where target will be replaced by the players name.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* This is a good, well-thought suggestion. But while I don't generally like PKing, I think it is important to keep it available to those that do enjoy it. With XP penalties and easy resurrection, PKing not ruining the game from my perspective and it shouldn't be restricted further. I would not mind a method of informing players that view my character profile to see that I am flagged for pvp or not, but I am against preventing PVP without purchasing such an ability. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:16, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* New players already get an AP bonus and need less XP to level; I don't see the need for a newbie specific ability.  I'd rather see a safe area over a moveable system - something like a sacred hut in native villages and a guard hut in outsider villages which anyone who hasn't attacked another player in 100 AP can enter and within which all PvP activity is prohibited, wastes AP, or perhaps results in HP loss only to the attacker (&amp;quot;Your attack has angered the mighty (spirits or guards) in the area; they smite you&amp;quot;).--[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:12, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Having both a PvP pirate and a pacifist shaman, and having been PKed on both... I don't like this idea. I like the 100AP newbie status. I don't like the &amp;quot;enabling&amp;quot; nopvp. Sorry. Death is a part of the game. If you walk into a tribe of hostile headhunters, they aren't going to just stand by and let you through--no matter how peaceful your business.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 04:27, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm aware that new players get extra AP and newbie protection isn't what this is about. It is more useful for being protected from the players that sit in their home town bashing away at their own folk. Even with that said my main reason for nopvp was for another idea I have for a skill track that at the time of thinking about it I thought would require a nopvp implementation. I may post the skill track idea sometime when I have finished thinking about all the details.--[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 12:07, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*How about you can't be attacked in your village/settlement by people that come from your village/settlement? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:30, 17 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=I think the addition of one or more major new &amp;quot;strategic&amp;quot; locations on the island would greatly improve the game. What exactly it would be can be worked out, all it really ''has'' to be is very valuable to occupy and far away from any village or town (i.e. far away from any shaman). Both sides would rush to occupy this location and would fight each other for control of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would have 3 major benefits for the game that I can see: 1) It would get the action away from towns/villages/shamans, 2) It would make death more meaningful and make killing an enemy meaningful (all death means in towns/villages now is having to float five spaces or so to the shaman and then you get a free revive. There are no easy/free revives out in the center of the island, you would lose both location and the 50 AP to contact, unless you decide to stick around and play as a spirit), 3) It would give people a goal in the game, a major location to fight over and defend, a location that isn't pointless to fight over, as towns/villages are because they cannot be taken. All in all it would have the benefit of making the game more fun.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as what the new location would be exactly, one idea could be gold mine(s). They would be valuable because standing on a gold mine square would give you 1 gold coin/hr and require no AP expenditure. The specifics of this are wide open and dont even much matter, as long as the location is far from settlements and very valuable to occupy so players will flock out there and fight for control, making for an exciting time and making killing enemies non-pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
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If implemented, it should only be one new location at first, with maybe a couple more introduced later once things get going. The location should have a name, and it should be relayed to players in the form of Game News so that everyone knows of its existance and where it is in general terms, e.g. &amp;quot;A gold mine was discovered just south of the mountain, Natives and Outsiders are both rushing out there for control&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Note: One of the raisons d'etre for this suggestion has been eliminated with the shaman changes, so this suggestion is less relevant than it was and in some ways outdated. It might still be workable, though it will have to be approached differently.'' [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* I realise it was just an example, but 1 gold per hour without any AP requirement is probably a bit much. Definitely something to expand on though. I like it. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:46, 22 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** For example, award 1 gold coin to any one player at random who is on the mine for at least the full hour. Or only award 1 gold coin at random to any one player if only one side occupies the mine -- if both outsiders and nativers are present, they are fighting for control and no one is mining. Generally speaking, 24 gold coins per &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;hour&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;day fed into the entire game will not mess up the economy -- that's probably less than 75-150 AP of searching (and a trip to the trading hut).   Alternatively, allow players to search the area with a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;15%&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; 40% find rate for one gold coin, as long as none of the opposing faction are present in the square. Drawbacks: (1) This sort of high-impact location could also increase zerging/cheating, which wouldn't be fun for anyone. (2) A gold mine could rapidly devalue gold coins until they're effectively worthless, ending the &amp;quot;value&amp;quot; of the mine. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 02:22, 23 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Giving out small numbers of coins to only a certain percentage of the people on the mine square seems too low a reward, while the original 1 gold coin per hour is definitely too high. But unless people get something tangible every hour that they stand there, people may not bother to fight for control of the mine, which is the whole point. Here is an idea: Make a new item called &amp;quot;gold nugget&amp;quot;. Every hour that you are standing on the gold mine square and your faction controls it, you get one gold nugget. Then create a hut 1 square adjacent to the mine and inside have an NPC called &amp;quot;gold prospector Jim&amp;quot; (for example), who will &amp;quot;cash in&amp;quot; your nuggets, 10 nuggets (or 5, or whatever is deemed the best number) for one coin. Gold nuggets on their own would have no value. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 14:57, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****You could achieve the same effect without creating a prospector hut just by giving a straight 10% (or 20%) chance of 1 gold coin each hour. (To me a single &amp;quot;prospector Jim&amp;quot; gets a bit sketchy if a thousand people are rushing the mine...). In my opinion, you get better scalability and realism if the gold-per-person decreases as people increase. If there are a thousand people on the mine, then each person gets only 5% chance per hour (=50gc/hour production). If there are 10 people on the mine, then each one gets a 100% chance per hour (=10gc/hour production). Gold can't be earned from the mine when competing factions are on the location, creating a contested site is the purpose of implementing this suggestion. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:41, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::If there is a 10% chance to get one gold coin per hour, and if during a large portion of the day both natives and outsiders are on the gold mine square so no mining is going on, then the odds would be that the lots of people would get 0 gold coins (or very few) before being killed, a total waste of time for them, and they might not bother going back after they're killed, which defeats the gold mine's purpose as a strategic location that people will fight over. This is why I say people need something tangible every hour. In fact, that should be revised to &amp;quot;something tangible every AP turnover&amp;quot;, i.e. every 20 minutes. Even if someone is there for only a short time, they should have something to show for it, which they almost certainly wouldnt with a low % chance per hour of getting one gold coin. Your idea of scaling the gold that the mine produces could be implemented by making Gold Prospector Jim give fewer gold coins the more nuggets he receives. In other words, a gold mining version of the current trading system. Since he will have received 0 gold nuggets as the mine is first discovered, one gold nugget could trade for one gold coin, and as more people start cashing in, the value of a gold nuggest would go down, to where he wants 20 or so nuggets for one gold coin. The value would fluctuate throughout the day and week as people cash in more gold nuggets. This way, scalability is achieved while continuing to be able to reward something tangible every AP turnover. Also, I would say gold nuggets should take 0 inventory space just like gold coins, since in theory 72 could be given out per day to one person, and that would fill up anyone's inventory, allowing them to not receive any more.  [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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* An alternative to the gold mine would be some kind of ancient treasure hoard, so not just gold coins but also statues, ancient armour and maybe some pretty nasty weapons. However, to get the good stuff you'd have to go into the trap-filled maze and actually make it into the chamber where the treasure is. With spirit-proof doors so people don't just die, go in, find the correct route, revive and go in...[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 17:33, 24 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**This is interesting but seems overly complicated, and seems like more of a one-shot kind of thing, but most significantly there is no real value in holding such a location. A gold mine would be a simple, straightforward, and constantly of high value to occupy. Also, once one person finds the way through the maze, soon everyone would know. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 14:57, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Good point... Ignore my suggestion, it's not very good... [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 12:27, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life cycle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Currently the main way of leveling up is by killing things (i.e. NPCs &amp;amp; characters) I suggest there be some sort of life cycle for animals. For example, when there are massive amounts of tigers being killed less spawn. But if everybody leaves tigers alone, more spawn. If would look something like this:&lt;br /&gt;
:0-5% of animal type killed, x5 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
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:16-45% of animal type killed x1 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:46-75% of animal type killed x0.5 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:76-99% of animal type killed x0.1 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:100% of animal type killed, animal is extinct&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=03:22, 29 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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I have the funny feeling that animals would start going extinct, which would just be a pain. I'd rather not see this one implemented.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:50, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Would work if there was a total animal population that was always kept, so if tigers start to become extinct more deer appear, but this would lead to an island of only elephants.  Would also work if the animals that were extinct reemerged later on, then it would just be annoying.  But the goal of &amp;quot;find alt ways to gain Xp&amp;quot; won't be realised via this manner - it would instead lead to more player vs player action.  Instead of taking away our current methods, perhaps other methods of xp gaining could be added, like the agriculture skill, or some current activities could have an xp bonus (we get xp for uncovering trees, why not for finding fruits? Could trading become xp-worthy?).--[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 16:47, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I don't know why we should force people to find the lucrative alternative ways to gain XP. Animals are extremely rare in some areas of Shartak, and PKing and PvP is common. Banshee wailing spam, punch-heal farming, and gratuitous healer orgies are annoying enough already. Basically, the non-healing/non-harming XP paths need to be more viable: XP for exploring, chopping, discovery, contacting foreign villages, and so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 10:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moving through fully chopped down or overgrown jungle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Movement change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Every character in the game|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I sugget a change in the movement mechanics. It may not be approved by you, but I think it's logical. I wouls like to see a change that allows to reduce movement on fully chopped (d0) squares of jungle (I think that a reduction to 0,5 AP/move &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(0,25 AP/move with Trekking skill)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, and an increase on (I think) squares ranging from d7 to d9 to 2 AP/move (1 AP/move with Trekking). D10 squares stay impossible to pass, until chopped. The logic says that when you have nothing under your feet except for ground you move faster, and in dense growth areas you walk slower. Such a change as I proposed may also need an adjustment in the jungle growth speed.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=22:15, 1 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Xintlaer|Xintlaer]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like this, except the part about the trekking skill giving the ability to move 4 d(0) squares in one AP, that should definitely not be done. Maybe this: trekking should only apply to d(1) and up (the skill description says &amp;quot;faster movement through the jungle&amp;quot; anyway), and on d(0), all characters, whether trekking or not, should expend 0.5 AP to move onto another d(0) square. (note that if both of those changes are made it would not harm trekking-people, their AP-usage would be same as it is now.) One benefit of lowering movement cost on d(0) squares as far as game dynamics is concerned, is that it would make roads, the upkeep of roads, and the upkeep of towns (keeping towns free of jungle overgrowth), actually meaningful in a practical sense, by allowing for quicker travel. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 22:41, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Exactly what I was going to say, Arminius. Trekking on a road would be absolutely incredible... so we just don't give trekkers any added bonus there.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:52, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Understood, agreed, changing--[[User:Xintlaer|Xintlaer]] 09:13, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*0.5 AP per square on roads (still 0.5 AP with Trekking). 2 AP per square on heavy jungle (1 AP with Trekking). Creates tangible effect for the Highway Society - Preservation Front conflicts. An absolutely brilliant suggestion. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 10:06, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Nice idea. Tap tap tap.. try that.. I think it should be pretty much what you've said. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 19:40, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Message in a bottle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item, message system|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All characters in Beach terrain|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Much like the &amp;quot;make signpost&amp;quot; action, creating a message in a bottle will only be available to players standing in Beach terrain. Unless the &amp;quot;Refillable containers&amp;quot; suggestion is implemented, to create a message in a bottle will require a bottle of beer, bottle of rum, or bottle of water and some newer items - parchment and charred driftwood or berry paint. There would be a textarea and a button, much like the existing message actions. Upon clicking the &amp;quot;make message&amp;quot; button, the items required are removed from the player's inventory and their text message is added to the database.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it would be neat to actually see the bottles floating in the water and following unique movement patterns, that would lead to some very cluttered areas. So instead the message in a bottle becomes a rare search result in Beach terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a player finds a message in a bottle the system generates a random number and selects the associated message to that number from the database. After reading the message, the player has the option to destroy or return the bottle. Destroying the message in a bottle removes it from the database. Returning it throws the bottle back into the sea to be found again. There should probably be a default message in the event that all the unique messages are destroyed or the search odds could be modified to reflect that there are no more messages in a bottle to be found.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each message could also have a stat to display how many times the message was read before.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=05:33, 6 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Map quest===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Quest|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All characters, new NPCs|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=There is a limited usefulness for the map for those without access to the mapping scripts. There is also a limited incentive for players to explore foreign camps. This suggestion provides a simple quest for players to hopefully address both issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each town will possess a new NPC (or possibly a retooled home shaman or trader) that has a fragment of a map. The fragment will display the general vicinity around the camp. After a player interacts with the NPC and acquires a map fragment, they can view map.html and see two new buttons: &amp;quot;view torn map&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;compare maps&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;View torn map&amp;quot; will display the collection of map fragments acquired by the player. &amp;quot;Compare maps&amp;quot; will overlay the player's personal map on top of the torn map.&lt;br /&gt;
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I imagine the map fragments to resemble the parchment look featured in the game logo, but each camp might use a different medium or writing implement which will give the torn map a patchwork appearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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The map fragments will not take up any inventory space and not even be listed in the inventory. On a character's profile page it may be possible to display their progress with the quest: (1/7 map fragments).&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously, having just the area of the camps mapped out will leave some large missing chunks in the torn map. There could be a hermit NPC that will complete the torn map once each fragment is obtained. The complete map can also have the feature of unlocking new territory. Talking to special elder NPCs will mark the map with locations that are viewable and enterable only by those with complete, marked maps.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=19:53, 6 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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== Game Mechanics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Conversion ===&lt;br /&gt;
When an Outsider/Native dies they are reborn as a Native (don't really understand the spirit thing too well). The Outsiders then get a new class/skill, &amp;quot;Religious Conversion&amp;quot; that requires a &amp;quot;Holy Scripture&amp;quot;. This allows a &amp;quot;Priest&amp;quot; to convert one native into a Outsider&amp;quot;. The converted native would most likely start off as a Settler. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* I believe that Natives are reborn as Natives and Outsiders are reborn as Outsiders, but I could be wrong. From a game balance perspective, I am not in favor of type-swapping skills unless Natives are presented with an ability to counter or convert Outsiders as well. It does fit nicely with the theme though. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:41, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* That would probably be the shamans job, however it may have worked for Urban Dead but I don't think it will work in this game as whichever group has the most players to begin with will, once conflicts begin to arise, dominate by switching people from the side they are on the side the priest/&amp;quot;whatever the natives use&amp;quot; side making you able to graph one groups population by looking at the graph pop=(1/2)^x. Also since there wouldn't seem to be a way, short of finding a converter player to switch you back, to go back to playing as you once did would make the amount of people on one side quickly die off (even though thats what would happen in real life, favouring the outsiders) it would be a very unfun aspect of the game. And really these are HOSTILE natives, or so it seems, why would they let some devilman outsider tell it how it is? They wouldn't, they would simply spear them and laugh! In short all the converting ideas suck, I know I wouldn't want to log on to find I'm playing for the wrong side. -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 10:55, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* So that means if my soldier dies, he's reborn as a native? Not only that, but to become an outsider again, first I would have to find a priest (which would be next to impossible with such a small number of players), and then he could convert me into a settler. That means I'll never be able to be a soldier again, which is a real punch in the throat for RPers. -- Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
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*All valid points. I guess this wouldn't really work we have the same number of players as Urban Dead. But this would be a great way to balance out the sides later on. Say there are too many natives, you just drop more &amp;quot;conversion items&amp;quot; and balance out the sides. Too many Outsiders? Just drop the number of conversion items. Doubt it would catch on though. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 02:44, 19 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Conversion doesn't have to be forced.  It could require action on both sides, like a native doning a religious item and an outsider using the skill on that native.  After all, conversion isn't real without true faith. The native counter to this could be similar, requiring an outsider to die holding a packet of that headshrinking powder while a shaman uses the Zombification (ala Haitian witchcraft) skill.  -- frisco&lt;br /&gt;
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*You don't change class or anything when you die. --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:31, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I gave a response t othis idea under &amp;quot;Holy Scriptures,&amp;quot; I think, offering another idea for it that may piss a lot less people off. *points over there*--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:15, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Capturing villages ===&lt;br /&gt;
Since this is like some war between Outsiders and Natives I thought this appropriate. If all the (say) Outsiders are killed in York and there are none left, then it becomes a Native village and vice versa. Probably needs harder requirements to capture settlements though. Maybe each side could have one permanent place that can never change hands? --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:41, 1 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not sure about this - what about all the idle players within the village? They might &amp;quot;wake up&amp;quot; after a couple of weeks to find they're in enemy territory. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:00, 1 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could have it so idle players goto the nearest friendly village-- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 02:58, 3 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Turf control in a limited AP browser game like this just invites lame zerging behavior. I don't like it. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 00:00, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not villages, perhaps 3x3 square 'forts'? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 01:10, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I do like the idea, but I think Jackel's observation hits a key point. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Agreed with Jackel and Lint and Simon. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT) Additionally:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Please don't impose your assumption that Shartak is at heart a &amp;quot;war between Outsiders and Natives&amp;quot; on the rest of us.  That is not the only possible direction in which this game can go.  For example, an Outsider village might turn out to be populated by a trading company that views the other Outsider villages as competitors whose extermination would be good for business, but it could just as easily develop into a peaceful scientific outpost, a pirate haven of drunken debauchery, or a missionary settlement devoted to finding the Natives and learning their language (gotta spread that old time religion).  I believe it would be better to keep the objectives more freeform, and let the players create the course of history. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
::* On a hopefully more helpful and positive note, one could simulate/approximate capturing a village by amassing an army of suitable size, carving messages of ownership all over the territory of the village in question, killing all members of the village, and repeatedly killing the village shaman so they can't get back as easily. (Ouch. I hope no armchair megalomaniacs out there have been taking notes.) --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 13:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Unique skills ===&lt;br /&gt;
I think that each class should start off with one unique skill that the others may never aquire. That way it stops all the classes from becoming too generic. For example Settlers could have a &amp;quot;farming&amp;quot; skill, Soldiers could have a &amp;quot;bravery&amp;quot; skill, etc. Or mabey they could just have a attribute like Soldiers have an extra 10% chance of striking the target, Warriors have an extra 10% chance  of finding animals, Settlers have an extra 10% chance of finding an item, Scouts have a 3% chance of recovering 1 HP per AP spent, etc. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 02:34, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am in favor of this (if it is not in effect currently). We'd have to work out the details to make sure each class is getting their fair share, but something that encourages players to try other classes or team up with other players using different classes for a better playing experience sounds good to me. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am in favor of each class being able to acquire (but not necessarily starting off with) a unique skill or attribute that the others may never acquire. Sounds to me like the kind of thing that would be  unlocked as one's reward for a rite of passage, rather than granted as a right of birth. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 12:53, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps a Research skill of some kind for the Scientist, maybe allowing them an advantage when doing things with dead animals (would need something to do with dead animals, obviously!).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 16:09, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pirates should have a skill to steal their fallen enemies' gold coins. Arr. Would probably result in a lot of outsider in-fighting, though, and outsiders are currently outnumbered.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:18, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with this as well. It seems Shartak is on the way to giving each class their own benefits (Soldiers/Warriors with gun skills, Settlers/Villagers with animal affinity etc.), but so far only a few have been made unique. At present there is really no point to being a scientist. He starts with 10 gold coins... what the? So I'm pushing for each class to have at least one unique skill they can purchase with XP. --[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]] 11:50, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=I will combine aspects of the '''Animal''' and '''Pirate''' suggestions and propose a pet system that allows you to tame one of the animals on the island. First, you have to weaken the animal. Then you throw a sphere device at it and shout &amp;quot;SHARTAK SPHERE! GO!&amp;quot; for 1 AP. There's a slight chance that you have captured and tamed the animal. The more powerful the animal, the less success chance. You earn no XP for taming an animal. Players can only have 1 pet at a time. They can release a pet whenever they want. If the owner dies, the pet runs away. Pets have fixed HP, attack, and accuracy based on the type of animal they are (ie. they do not level up or heal, just to keep it simple to design). They follow the player around and only attack when the player attacks. It would be nice if they attacked while you were not playing, but auto-defense mechanisms are unnecessary. Enemy animals randomly determine whether they are attacking the owner or the pet. Other players will have an option for targeting the owner or pet. There is no XP gained for attacking or killing a pet to deter any attempts at farming pet killing (I can't believe we even have to consider preventing such a thing). For added flavor, owners can name their pets.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*ROTFL. Sounds a bit like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh (don't worry, I'm not a fan, I have kids that were!).  Perhaps instead of spheres, you could keep the monkeys on a leash, heal a tiger or elephant to make it less likely to attack you, tame deer by feeding them, etc. Some animals like the wild boar would have to be pretty difficult to tame. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:14, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I was with you right up until you got to the &amp;quot;sphere device&amp;quot; bit, and I rejoined you afterwards. ;) The rest of your suggestion otherwise seems to be pretty well thought out.  Personally, I'd prefer to attempt to tame the animal into becoming a pet purely by offering it food, rather than &amp;quot;weakening&amp;quot; it by other means.  Especially since food is scarce enough that offering it to an animal would be a real sacrifice and therefore an interesting decision for the player to make. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:49, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I will confess that I had a lot of fun with the references. The problem I have with using an existing item to tame a pet is how to implement it. The player can't click on the fruit, because that will just heal themselves. And I think it is unecessary to redesign fruits like First Aid Kits and Medical Herbs, just so they can feed it to an animal. And a database check to see if the player possesses a fruit before providing a &amp;quot;tame&amp;quot; command seems awkward. Perhaps there is just one item called &amp;quot;animal bait&amp;quot; (from the Trade Hut most likely). It works much like a FAK or Herb, but can only be applied to animals (though there will be a &amp;quot;Yourself&amp;quot; option by default for those players that decide they enjoy the taste). Animals will then have a value called &amp;quot;tame count&amp;quot; in the database. For each successful feeding, this number is incremented. When a specific number is reached, the monster is successfully tamed. If a monster is killed, the number is reset to 0. Acquiring a pet should not reduce the population of animals on the island (ie. one should respawn to take its place). Furthermore, those with '''Animal Affinity''' should have a better taming success rate. (This is another attempt to give Villagers and Settlers a little boost.) --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:32, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*This idea, while somewhat interesting, is not very realitic. The animals of the island are wild. In reality, tigers, elephants, deer, &amp;quot;WILD boars&amp;quot; etc can only be made LESS WILD by extensive and careful training and handling when they are young, not be tamable by any means, certainly not enough to follow a person around and fight on their behalf. Maybe it would be possible with parrots and monkeys, but if Simon is going to implement changes, I'd rather see some of the more believable ones first. I do agree with Lint that it would give more value to '''Animal Affinity'''. Animal attacks, even from a tiger or elephant (which would realistically be very dangerous) are hardly to be feared, making this skill currently seem pretty useless.&lt;br /&gt;
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as the name reades, simply have &amp;quot;pets&amp;quot; as a survivor living in the jungle, my first instinct would be to find support, in this case we could add a &amp;quot;tame animal&amp;quot; button, which would be clicked to tame an animal, the starting catching % would be something like 10% and could be improved the more the animal is damaged, like at 1hp, if full health was 10hp then you'd have 55% of catching it, (i added 5% for every 10% missing from the creature's health)&lt;br /&gt;
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 +Net (adds 10%, does stack)&lt;br /&gt;
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certain animals could be ridden, other would do funny things or find objects for you, ex:&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Bobo the monkey finds a bottle of rum in your pocket &amp;quot;gee i didnt know i had that&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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elephants, large stags, and tigers could be ridden, small stags would haveto grow up before being ridden, after like, 10 days, or 20 kills they would mature, its all just theory...&lt;br /&gt;
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parrots could become like flares, ex: Mr. TweetTweet flies towards you and drops a message &amp;quot;help, im at X, Y and there's a native village!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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the parrot could also say messages randomly, players (upon catching a parrot) would be given 10 slots and would type things into them, the parrots would randomly say one, ex:&lt;br /&gt;
you attack elephant, Mr. TweetTweet says &amp;quot;polly want a cracker&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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animals could also act like extra space, like a backpack, if you will.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Profile Effect Items ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Inventory and profiles|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=These are useless baubles that take up 1 unit of a player's inventory space, but if anyone views their profile they will see that the players possesses the item. Using the item won't accomplish anything and merely produce flavor text. However, if a player is in the presence of another player, using the item would show it off. As with all items, there's no way to trade them with other players. We can have eyepatches and peglegs. We can have tribal masks and warpaint. Maybe some clans would require a certain dress code. Maybe they need 30 pieces of flair. I think it provides an outlet for the less serious gamers. Problems: Serious gamers might be plagued with finding such items and dropping them, wasting (in their opinion) AP and Page Hits. Also, arguing over what items fit with the theme of Shartak will be a headache-inducing process.|&lt;br /&gt;
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* I like this suggestion. How about finding the pieces of the masks and making your own - combine the baubles with mini-quests? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For example, to make the sacred warrior mask of Raktam, you must find 5 parrot feathers, a tiger tooth, some berries and a piece of driftwood that can be carved into the appropriate shape with a knife or dagger. Once you have all those items, you get a &amp;quot;create mask&amp;quot; option which then removes the required items and the mask appears in your inventory (and profile).&lt;br /&gt;
::Having the database check to see if they have all the ingredients seems a bit unwieldly. After every action or inventory use it might have to run the check to verify that they are alive, still have the items, etc. I'd just settle for having them take the items to a specific NPC. But yes, a mixing quest would be fun. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* I just hope that this idea motivates players to try new things (&amp;quot;I'm going to join a clan that wears such-and-such a mask and attack the others! Yarr!&amp;quot;) and not feel that the game is just about collecting items (&amp;quot;Well, I got all the masks. I guess I'm done with the game.&amp;quot;). --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 18:02, 8 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Maybe the different masks have different effects, from some simple ones (attracting/scaring animals, making them less likely to attack or easier to hit) to the downright blatavt video game reference that turns you into a huge brown rocky guy who can punch boulders apart. OK, maybe not the second one. [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:53, 9 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that's something to be worked on in a separate suggestion. The point of this suggestion is to make useless &amp;quot;fancy hats&amp;quot; that neither add or take away from the established gameplay. However, in the eyes of certain players, they may be invaluable because of how they can incorperate such items into their goals and roleplaying. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:52, 9 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Bumping this good suggestion. Let's have some cowrie shells! (And The_Conch(tm), see next suggestion.) The barren ruins and huts seem so sad and pathetic right now, they need some wacky useless trinkets to tide us over... Maybe we need shovels to dig for treasure, too. Yarr! --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:06, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Conch Shell Hunt ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Event|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=''Capture the Flag''-ish minigame. Somewhere on the island is a single conch shell item. It can be found by searching anywhere. It takes 1 inventory space and appears when anyone views their profile. When the conch holder is in the presence of other players, flavor text is added to the area description to inform the others that the conch holder is in the area. If the person in possession of the conch drops it, dies, or is idle for more than 5 days, the conch returns to the system. The person who holds the conch the longest gets recognized in the statistics. Killing the conch holder earns special bonus XP. Adept conch holder killers may also be recognized in the statistics. Problems: Someone with multiple characters could take advantage of having the conch on one character and reap the XP and fame with another. There will be a point where a race condition will occur and might result in multiple conches and a broken game.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* This kind of thing has been on my ideas list, although this is much more detailed version than the one-liner I had. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:05, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*''I'' have the conch! I'm allowed to speak! *ahem* I mean, um... &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:21, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Suggestions: (1) Skip bonus for the conch-killer and you remove incentive to zerg. (2) Have the conch break when the conch-bearer dies (respawns on a random beach) and you remove the race condition. (3) Give the conch-bearer an action to blow into the Conch. (You hear the booming echo of a conch being sounded to the south-east.) Maybe 50% chance of 1xp each time you blow the conch, just to give you incentive to attract attention to yourself. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 02:31, 23 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Know your foes ===&lt;br /&gt;
As a native, I get killed a lot by outsiders, but I just can't strike back when I come back to life, as nothing allows me to identify my agressors amongst the outsiders I meet. I expected some basic language skill to give me access to clickable outsiders profiles, but it doesn't. So. I don't like much the fact that, in this game, the only alternative you have is &amp;quot;attack random outsiders&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;attack none&amp;quot;. I'd like to be able to protect myself without being too unfair to peaceful outsiders (and being part of some snowball effect).&lt;br /&gt;
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This would be partly solved by some profile access (allowing to check people's amount of human kills), or some limited displayed info on the present players (it would make -almost- sense for natives to automatically carry visible scalps or shrunken head of their victims, but I'm not sure how to justify the kills display in the case of outsiders, despite of the fact white men were actually quite fond of indian scalps at some time). Another useful tool would be some urban-dead-like contact list.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, ideally (but absurdly) the most useful stat to be able to see would be the number of kills of people without human kills at the moment of their death, but...  -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps seeing the profile of someone on the opposite side if you or they have the advanced language skill would be good, it would be cool to hang around with some natives without worrying about aggressors. --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 21:30, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you had a contact list and some way to target individuals on your list ala Urban Dead, I'm guessing that would probably help. Not so sure about the scalp display approach. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:36, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A contact list would be quite useful in Shartak. But also being able to read profiles, maybe through an &amp;quot;observe&amp;quot; button and scroll-down menu. For the moment, people just hit each other once, hoping to miss, in order to get a link to the other guy's profile. There must be a more rationnal way to quench this curiosity. -- Gone 13:36, 10 May 2006 (GMT+1)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Forest Fire ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Game mechanics, natural disasters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Terrain|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a potential temporary minigame that will either lead to players to band together and save the island or perhaps just lead to all-out chaos. A fire script is created which designates one block as fire (it is identified by a little fire.gif in the background). Every 20 minutes the fire script will check if there is &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Grassland or&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; Jungle nearby with density from 1-10. If there is, it spreads to the next block. It will not spread to any other terrain (including villages and ruins). Thus, the best way to prevent the spread of the fire is by chopping vegetation down to 0. The initial fires will be placed randomly around the island. Actions performed in a fire occupied space deal 2 damage. For this event to be more devious, there should be a means to quickly restore vegetation (dropping driftwood, planting fruit, watering with gourds).|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like some things about this suggestion, I think it could work really nicely if there was also a rain algorithingamajig, so that maybe, if some part of the island dried out, wildfires could break out, or if it rained too much villages could flood and get swamped. Its a neat idea. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 04:55, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I like the idea of rain and fire, however there's no telling if the server would handle the database access/calculations required when the number of players gets into the range that Urban Dead has. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:17, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I thought it might be a bit much. Ah well. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Not the idea of fire itself, that may well be quite feasible. I meant having rain causing flooding, or not enough rain leading to fires might be a bit awkward.. unless I can think of some way to reduce the work that needs to be done regularly. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:38, 18 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe fires could also destroy huts, and then there could be a skill to rebuild them. Maybe even give people the ability to start their own fires. It might make for interesting tribal wars. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:22, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Imagine what would happen if an ammo hut caught on fire!--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 04:32, 1 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** I kind of wanted to restrict fires to the Jungle (removed my Grasslands comment from the original suggestion) since a lot of Huts provide resources for starting players and players that have just been revived. I think it would be unfair to prevent them with the opportunity to gather supplies. As a tactic, it may also be unfair. Native villages appear to be completely surrounded by burnable Jungle, while Outsider villages are bordered by the Beach. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:46, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Good point. The pirates would be completely free of burning too. I still think a way to temporarily damage structures could be fun -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 19:59, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** As a general rule, real world jungles don't burn terribly well, although there are a few notable exceptions (such as the Indonesian forest fires in 1997-98).  Grasslands, however, burn quite regularly, and in fact such fires are necessary for the good health of the grass.  Fire kills off sapling trees in the area which would otherwise grow to the point that they overshadowed and killed the grass.  I don't know whether the game has any grasslands large enough to make this kind of thing interesting, though.  --[[User:Jackdaw|Jackdaw]] 15:55, 25 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Ghost Elephant ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Event|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Somewhere on the island is an animal that exists purely as a temporary event. The Legendary Ghost Elephant - in reality, an aggressive albino pachyderm of incredible size - is said to roam the island of Shartak. Some Natives revere it, others desire to be recorded as the one who slayed it. Some Outsiders wish to study it, others desire to have it as a trophy. It behaves much like any other elephant on Shartak. However, it has a different label, an unfathomable amount of HP, and deals horrific damage. If you heal the Ghost Elephant with a FAK or Herbs, you receive double XP. And to further serve a challenge, don't place an HP cap on the Ghost Elephant, just give it a starting amount. If possible, a log of all actions performed on the Ghost Elephant should be kept by the server and revealed in the event that it dies.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*Ha! I like this one, Lint, and simple to implement. It should really have a boatload of HP, as I think few will consider expending valuable healing items on it, when its far easier (and more rewarding) to hack away at it for 40 AP then make a run for it! --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 16:42, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Arr! I would ride that ghost beast like a horse jus' fer fun, then slay 't t' sell its tusks t' them outsiders an' th' meat t' them natives. --[[User:El Pirata Cofresi|El Pirata Cofresi]] 17:46, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the Congo they refer to it as Mokele Mbembe - he who stops the flow of rivers - and it is rumoured to be a lost dinosaur.  The island could do with some cryptozoology. Would this creature be able to disappear or hide or move incredibly fast?  If not, then once one person finds it, they can just call everyone over to the same square.  This kind of defeats the mythical aspect as well as adding potential server problems. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 18:24, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I should make the animals attack back in near-realtime first (as in you attack them and they may or may not get an attack in).. just to add a bit of interest to it and stop people running up to the creature and hacking and then running away. Making an animal with an almost unlimited number of HP would be possible.. I guess probably start it with at least double a normal elephant and max of about a thousand HP to prevent people healing it to the point where it'd be impossible to kill. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:37, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*It could be cool, especially if it moved around in a way that made tracking it possible, maybe by destroying the foliage, or moving in a pattern. Also having it move might help keep people from all winding up in one square beating it up. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:41, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I've tried to offset the game's focus on combat by encouraging healing (double XP may be too much of a reward, so I'm willing to remove that), but that alone will most likely be not enough to counter the horde of blood-thirsty savages!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Healing with the Herbs and FAKs may actually be seen as healing the Ghost Elephant spiritually rather than merely physically, which is why it's health can grow high. I don't see a problem if it became near-unkillable. I like keeping some myths and legends around.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I thought that it would be best if it traveled like an elephant, but it is true that it limits the people that are able to participate in the event. Perhaps it should &amp;quot;teleport&amp;quot;, after a certain amount of time in an area - &amp;quot;A wall of fog sweeps in through jungle. When it fades, you see that the Ghost Elephant has vanished as well.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I requested for a log of actions to determine who killed it, who attacked it the most, who healed it the most, and who got hurt the most. Also, rather than a recurring animal, I thought it would be best to release it as an event that occurs every now and then. Or maybe only once! --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:32, 17 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Hmm, when the elephant reappears, it should give a loud trumpet which can be heard over a certain radius to increase the chance of players coming across it. Unless of course players would prefer that it were more stealthy. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:25, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like it. And of course, you needn't stick to land animals; a mysterious sea creature that patrols the island waters and is reported to be 30ft long could prompt more people to vernture into the waters for a glimpse/trophy etc. Sharks will also be a problem for those searching! --[[User:Malphas|Malphas]] 15:52, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Great idea!--[[User:Paradox244|Paradox244]] 21:04, 24 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Auto Attack ===&lt;br /&gt;
I've never liked the fact that while I am away from the game, things can happen to my character, like being chewed on by a tiger or slashed with a machette.  How about a setting where you can turn your character on to auto attack anything that hits you.  It should, of course, be user selected.  This would change the game mechanics a bit, as you could no longer move in on a target and attack it withough fear of a counter-strike.  To me this is far more realistic, in that even if you are sleeping, when somebody hits you, you're going to wake up and do something about it with whatever engery you have left.  &lt;br /&gt;
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An alternative selectable action might be an auto-run.  You can pre-specify the direction you want to run and how many squares upon being hit.  A character with trekking could stay alive just by running a few square whenever they are hit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The main problem with this is that players will be discouraged from attacking other players, as this will become extremely dangerous, and the native warrior who wants the outsiderts out will effectively be penalised.[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 15:47, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sorry, but I don't like this. I feel that that this will lead to interactions with players that are no different than interacting with an NPC. Could someone theoretically max themselves out by just leaving this option on and checking in every now and then to make sure they haven't become a spirit? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 17:28, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yeah, I'm not a fan of being able to do something by not doing something, such as fighting or running without being there to fight or run. Also, would it be free of AP and IP hits, or would it be possible to come back and have no AP or hits left? It seems like these problems would wreck any sort of auto action. I can understand not enjoying being macheted while away, but I don't see any way around this. -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 18:20, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I must admit that I don't like the idea all that much, but if it was implemented it would probably be something that was user configurable. I don't think running away would make sense, but fighting back does. For example, no more than X AP to be used fighting back until you next log back in, and they wouldn't be used unless you had more than Y AP left. This way you could set X to 10 and Y to 6 and if you ran out of AP, set those values, it would be 2 hours (6 x 20m) before you were likely to attack, and it would use no more than 10 AP fighting back. Because the values are configurable, it would be hard to know who would fight back and who wouldn't. Setting X to 0 would disable the feature. I think probably the attacks would gain XP if successful, same as normal, but because you wouldn't be able to set the number of AP to use to more than your max AP value, it would be impossible to level up a character by simply leaving them alone (not to mention you would disappear from the map after being idle for a bit). --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:01, 20 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* i like the idea of counterattack , but with some limits. You have only a % of counterattacking someone (25%?) , you don't consume AP , you don't get XP. But , whit wich weapon do you attack?--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 10:05, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* The impetus behind auto-attack is to lessen the chance and impact of Badness happening to your character while you're away, but auto-attack isn't the proper solution to this.  Shartak's appropriate skill would be jungle hiding, though a construction skill would work too, if we want to be more like that other game. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 13:51, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* What the animals are doing now is basically what I was saying should be an option for players.  In fact, now that the animals counter-attack, it's become far more safe to attack a high-level soldier than it is to attack a parrot.  All the more reason to implement this feature.  It will also introduce more strategy into gameplay, such as how many AP to reserve for counter attacks, etc.  It could be as simple as: enable auto-attack (toggle), if enabled, select weapon (pull-down menu), select AP to stop self-defense (pull-down?).  If you select 0, you'd attack until exhausted or they left.  If you select some non-zero, you'd attack until you were down to that amount.  I kill a lot of other players, but I still say this would be very good for game mechanics, especially considering the new animal behavior.  --[[User:Qberry|Qberry]] 06:00, 1 June 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** I would only agree with that one if it was only against animals. I don't think auto-defense was a good idea ''at all'', but now that it's in, I think that ours should only work against NPCs.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 20:11, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Unfortunately this could only exacerbate the Banshee Wailing Spam problems. An auto-defense option is worthless against spirits, and Banshee Wails could easily be the leading cause of damage and death in Shartak (during May 2006). Implement Exorcism before worrying about AP-costs and pull-down-menus for melee parry defense systems. --20:48, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Exactly. Actually, I've been thinking more on this. It's really a good thing that the animals are so dangerous now. The focus should be more on the struggle between natives and outsiders. Plus, it makes Animal Affinity that much better, which gives a good reason to play a villager or a settler.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:48, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I support this idea in theory, but of course it must be approached carefully. I like JonesDye's idea of not gaining XP for counter-attacks, and there are so many other factors to consider. QBerry-- you should start a thread about this in the forums to get all sides of the debate and get discussion going. This could be a great feature if implemented correctly. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:47, 4 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flavor Text===&lt;br /&gt;
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this section is where &amp;quot;users&amp;quot; add &amp;quot;flavor&amp;quot; to the game, im just suggesting that every few steps the computer say a message depending on location, here ill give a few examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''grasslands'''&lt;br /&gt;
**the grassy field sways under the wind's rush as you take a step.|&lt;br /&gt;
**something far off squaks and makes a strange throaty bellow.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''water'''&lt;br /&gt;
**a wave crashes calmly in the distance|&lt;br /&gt;
**a spalsh can be heard from far off|&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''jungle'''&lt;br /&gt;
**a parrot's call can be heard distantly|&lt;br /&gt;
**the bushes nearby are rustling from the small wildlife in them|&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''village (outsider)'''&lt;br /&gt;
**the smell of gunpowder wafts into your lungs|&lt;br /&gt;
**the smoke comming from a nearby hut smells of fresh turkey|&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''village (native)'''&lt;br /&gt;
**the shaman's voice can be heard traveling through the village|&lt;br /&gt;
**you step on the bones of what appears to be a rattlesnake|&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''beach'''&lt;br /&gt;
**the hot sand burns your feet, yet feels wonderfully different|&lt;br /&gt;
**several sea shells catch your eye from far off|&lt;br /&gt;
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please feel free to update these with more, as they are just a list (if simon decides to) that will be used for flavor.&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the noticeable, distinct aspects of that other game are the different messages for each building; i really like this idea.  A criticism, though - i'd refrain from mentioning living animals/people or useful items in the descriptions, they could be confusing to newbies.  In other words, &amp;quot;a parrot's call can be heard distantly&amp;quot; isn't appropriate, and &amp;quot;the shaman's voice can be heard traveling through the village&amp;quot; might not be appropriate if the shaman is currently dead. The following could substitute: &amp;quot;You see a large ant colony busily rebuilding their hive&amp;quot; (an animal that has no game impact) and &amp;quot;The spirit of Shubar is felt all around you&amp;quot; (doesn't matter if Shubar is alive or dead). --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 14:05, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I sort of feel like this is something that could easily be put together with a Greasemonkey script. It would be nice, but it isn't really necessary. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 05:35, 5 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===slots/ new inventory===&lt;br /&gt;
slots and inventory could be implemented where, a picture of a silhouette was shown, with names of equiped items in slotted areas, ex: you skin a goat, find some sharp rocks and fashion yourself some claws, you then put them on, giving you +1 damage to all melee attacks&lt;br /&gt;
[[Suggestions:Items#animal wearings|animal wearings]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Making Claws? and not &amp;quot;all melee attacks&amp;quot; but only punch attacks --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:45, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see why you need item slots for this. Having a pair of claws in the inventory would just improve punch damage by 1. That said, I don't like the idea of making oneself claws. Seems a little silly, when you have actual weapons around. Seems a little silly, either way, really. Perhaps that's just my sense of aesthetics, though, and not that of the majority of the players.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:37, 4 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Boat Construction===&lt;br /&gt;
Boats wouldn't be able to go into The very deep water people can't go into because the tides would rip them apart but could go move in all water for only 1 AP and it also prevents sharks from biting you. Multipule people could get into a boat based on how much wood is used, like &lt;br /&gt;
n*.001 x 1 = People Where n = The amount of wood used.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Boats are being boarded each player may vote on who they decide should  be the captain. The captian may move boat, call the boat any non vulgar name and anyone may jump off the boat at any time except the captain. Boats could only be built on a beach and automaticly once built move the person who constructed it into the nearest water square. Players may board the baot at any time by moving into the same square as it and selecting enter. When the captain moves the boat onto a land square the boat is destroyed and all people who boarded are thrown onto the beach. Players may change the captain at any time by changing there vote. Natives can not board Outsider boats and outsiders can not board native boats. What the boat looks like and is  called depends on the size of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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2 people: Large raft&lt;br /&gt;
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3-4: Small boat&lt;br /&gt;
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10-24: Huge Boat&lt;br /&gt;
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25 and up: Gigantic Boat&lt;br /&gt;
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*check out the skills section, i already suggested something like that.... anyway, check it out --[[User:Richard Rose|Richard Rose]]&lt;br /&gt;
*While the huts are handled in Richard's suggestion, I am interested in the boat aspect. I think that placing multiple players on a boat will be troublesome. Who decides where the boat goes - the server? the first player on the boat?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;It's also important to keep in mind that we already are offered a skill to help with moving in water - '''Swimming'''. If we are to introduce rafts, there should be some mechanics set in place to minimize their usefulness.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Perhaps carrying a raft through non-water terrain doubles movement cost to discourage players from carrying one everywhere. Perhaps the raft only has a limited amount of moves in deep water before breaking up. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:44, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Yeah I changed the suggestion based on your suggestion's :) --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 04:40, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Welcome to the Shartak ferry sevice. Please pay the captain your fee of 3 coins. We will be departing for the pirate ship in 3 hours. The captain has locked the destination coordinates and will not change directions unless the boat's integrity is threatend. We will arive in 50 AP + 10 AP per passenger + 5 per day due to drift. You are encouraged to help paddle the boat as this will help us arive sooner. If you decide to leave the boat at any time we will not refund you or allow you to reboard. Please do not pull out any corks or kick any boards as the boat is fragile and will sink if badly damaged.&amp;quot;--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 05:06, 1 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Yeah ^^ That too --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 00:48, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Boats sound cool. There are a lot of different ways to implement boats that aren't that complicated. Here's one example: suppose that a boat can hold 4 people. Anyone who wants to control the boat spends 4 AP to move the boat one square (larger boats move more slowly). Thus the boat could wander back and forth depending on who currently has the helm, but is unlikely to travel faster than a swimmer. Anyone (native or outsider) can dive overboard or climb onboard at any time, and the boat can be chopped up and destroyed by enough effort. ... The way I envision it, a boat never leaves the water -- the boat gets constructed on a beach square and then can only be moved onto water. It is never an inventory item. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:31, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That's a good idea. I would go so far, though, as to say that it has to be constructed in shallow water.It would just make it easier. I would propose that the boat require four pieces of driftwood, plus two for every extra person. Thus a 1-man raft would be 4 pieces, a 2-man raft would be 6, a 3-man would be 8, and so on.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 18:26, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Although there's no reason not to require, umm, a boatload of wood for construction, rather than just 2 + 2 per person. If the boat has any advantages at all over swimming, you could easily require huge quantities of wood without game imbalance. The original suggester had 1000 pieces per person, that's over the top, but why not 18 wood per person or something. That means N sailors could build an N-person boat in a single day searching at Shartak's [[Boatyard]]. Although construction might require another day of additional AP, and a hammer... --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 23:07, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd be in favor of boat construction, but it should be ''significantly'' harder and MUCH more time consuming to work, really only the most hardcore players should try it. Realistically, a person should need about 20 pieces of wood to displace their own body weight, so 20 wood per person is about right. It should take at least a week of devoted searching to come up with this amount for one person, and would require a fair amount of organization to build a large craft, but come on, its a BOAT! Virtually no attacks from anyone ever! Easy access to hard-to-reach islands! It should be extremely rare and time-consuming to do this IMO.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 05:18, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* i reckon the boat idea would be great especially for the CP so we are land police of york and water police of york!,hopefully this does work out!. [[riddick]] 21:17 10th June,2006.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Poisoning===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All classes, primarily Warriors|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Currently, the blowpipe can only carry 1 dart, yet weighs the same amount of inventory space as a rifle with 2 bullets. If you were to pit a fully leveled Soldier armed with loaded rifles against a fully leveled Warrior armed with loaded blowpipes, the battle is in favor of the Soldier who requires less time to reload while inbattle and dealing superior damage. (rifle's 5 to blowpipe's 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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To address this, I would propose that poison darts actually cause poisoning. Poisoning would behave much like a shark bite - causing 1 HP damage per action performed until they are administered a FAK or medical herbs. A character can die if poison is left untreated. The attacker receives no additional XP for this kill or the damage dealt from poison. Poisoning would not stack, but it would be possible for a character to suffer from both poison and shark bites. The introduction of poison may require the dart's damage to be reduced to something substantially lower. Perhaps a default of 2 HP inflicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=18:38, 6 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*Sounds great! I've heard that some of the toxicins used to poison darts can induce illutions. It would be interesting if poisoning increases AP usage for certain actions or even better imagined enemies (that Sixth Sence could pick out).--[[User:Darkferret|Darkferret]] 08:24, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Have you seen the size of the some of the blowpipes that certain tribes carry? They're anything from 6 to 10 foot long! It's hardly surprising that they occupy the same inventory space as a rifle :) On the other hand, poisoning from darts sounds like a good idea.. I don't know that they should poison forever though, maybe for a limited number of AP, but perhaps have the effect be cumulative up to a certain point? Get shot 5 times and you lose 1 HP for every AP used for 5 x whatever the limit is. Does that make sense? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:16, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Exactly - e.g., each poison dart that hits adds 2 AP to the poison duration, and while poisoned, you lose 1HP per AP used. The Poison Dart would eventually inflict 6 hp of damage, offsetting the extra damage and double barrel of the rifle. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 07:22, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**That might work, that way the Warrior has incentive to continue using the blowpipe multiple times on a target rather than just switch to their machete after the poison takes effect. Add to the character table a boolean flag (Poison = True) and give it a Poison Timer int. When the timer reaches 0, the Poison gets flipped to False. When the character dies or a FAK or Herb is applied, the Poison gets flipped to False and the timer gets set to 0. If the flag is True and they're poisoned again, stack the timer. I'm going to put forth this suggestion to the Forum. I don't have a lot of experience with using the blowpipe (I'm a machete guy) so they should weigh in on this. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:17, 7 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Or how about you can find [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_dart_frog#Toxicity frogs] and use them to put differnt posion effects on your darts? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 04:57, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*If we're adding poison dart frogs, I demand that they be lickable. It wouldn't be right, if you couldn't lick the poison dart frogs.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 20:14, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::* Ok... then some benifical frogs too! And people can't tell the diffrence between them unless they get some skill? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:27, 17 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bump! Awaiting a short lifespan (eg 4hp) additional poison effect for poison darts. And/or Native-only Poisoning skill so that Snake + Dart = uberdart that causes permanent poisoning (aka shark wound). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===PvP Protection===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Game mechanics, pvp, nopvp, vs, player versus player|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All Classes|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A full implementation of player versus player protection. This would be a nice feature for newbies allowing them time to adjust to the game without getting slaughtered. I envisage something allowing you to enable nopvp without the ability to disable for at least 100AP. Also when you hit a player who is flagged nopvp then you would get a message along the lines of &amp;quot;As your blade bounces off an invisible shield you suddenly notice a shamanic medicine pouch around the neck of target, they are protected, it would be pointless to continue to attack target.&amp;quot; where target will be replaced by the players name.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=10:00, 13 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* This is a good, well-thought suggestion. But while I don't generally like PKing, I think it is important to keep it available to those that do enjoy it. With XP penalties and easy resurrection, PKing not ruining the game from my perspective and it shouldn't be restricted further. I would not mind a method of informing players that view my character profile to see that I am flagged for pvp or not, but I am against preventing PVP without purchasing such an ability. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:16, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* New players already get an AP bonus and need less XP to level; I don't see the need for a newbie specific ability.  I'd rather see a safe area over a moveable system - something like a sacred hut in native villages and a guard hut in outsider villages which anyone who hasn't attacked another player in 100 AP can enter and within which all PvP activity is prohibited, wastes AP, or perhaps results in HP loss only to the attacker (&amp;quot;Your attack has angered the mighty (spirits or guards) in the area; they smite you&amp;quot;).--[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:12, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Having both a PvP pirate and a pacifist shaman, and having been PKed on both... I don't like this idea. I like the 100AP newbie status. I don't like the &amp;quot;enabling&amp;quot; nopvp. Sorry. Death is a part of the game. If you walk into a tribe of hostile headhunters, they aren't going to just stand by and let you through--no matter how peaceful your business.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 04:27, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I'm aware that new players get extra AP and newbie protection isn't what this is about. It is more useful for being protected from the players that sit in their home town bashing away at their own folk. Even with that said my main reason for nopvp was for another idea I have for a skill track that at the time of thinking about it I thought would require a nopvp implementation. I may post the skill track idea sometime when I have finished thinking about all the details.--[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 12:07, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*How about you can't be attacked in your village/settlement by people that come from your village/settlement? --[[User:Slith|Slith]] 06:30, 17 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===New strategic location on island===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=I think the addition of one or more major new &amp;quot;strategic&amp;quot; locations on the island would greatly improve the game. What exactly it would be can be worked out, all it really ''has'' to be is very valuable to occupy and far away from any village or town (i.e. far away from any shaman). Both sides would rush to occupy this location and would fight each other for control of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would have 3 major benefits for the game that I can see: 1) It would get the action away from towns/villages/shamans, 2) It would make death more meaningful and make killing an enemy meaningful (all death means in towns/villages now is having to float five spaces or so to the shaman and then you get a free revive. There are no easy/free revives out in the center of the island, you would lose both location and the 50 AP to contact, unless you decide to stick around and play as a spirit), 3) It would give people a goal in the game, a major location to fight over and defend, a location that isn't pointless to fight over, as towns/villages are because they cannot be taken. All in all it would have the benefit of making the game more fun.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as what the new location would be exactly, one idea could be gold mine(s). They would be valuable because standing on a gold mine square would give you 1 gold coin/hr and require no AP expenditure. The specifics of this are wide open and dont even much matter, as long as the location is far from settlements and very valuable to occupy so players will flock out there and fight for control, making for an exciting time and making killing enemies non-pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
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If implemented, it should only be one new location at first, with maybe a couple more introduced later once things get going. The location should have a name, and it should be relayed to players in the form of Game News so that everyone knows of its existance and where it is in general terms, e.g. &amp;quot;A gold mine was discovered just south of the mountain, Natives and Outsiders are both rushing out there for control&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Note: One of the raisons d'etre for this suggestion has been eliminated with the shaman changes, so this suggestion is less relevant than it was and in some ways outdated. It might still be workable, though it will have to be approached differently.'' [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* I realise it was just an example, but 1 gold per hour without any AP requirement is probably a bit much. Definitely something to expand on though. I like it. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 21:46, 22 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** For example, award 1 gold coin to any one player at random who is on the mine for at least the full hour. Or only award 1 gold coin at random to any one player if only one side occupies the mine -- if both outsiders and nativers are present, they are fighting for control and no one is mining. Generally speaking, 24 gold coins per &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;hour&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;day fed into the entire game will not mess up the economy -- that's probably less than 75-150 AP of searching (and a trip to the trading hut).   Alternatively, allow players to search the area with a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;15%&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; 40% find rate for one gold coin, as long as none of the opposing faction are present in the square. Drawbacks: (1) This sort of high-impact location could also increase zerging/cheating, which wouldn't be fun for anyone. (2) A gold mine could rapidly devalue gold coins until they're effectively worthless, ending the &amp;quot;value&amp;quot; of the mine. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 02:22, 23 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Giving out small numbers of coins to only a certain percentage of the people on the mine square seems too low a reward, while the original 1 gold coin per hour is definitely too high. But unless people get something tangible every hour that they stand there, people may not bother to fight for control of the mine, which is the whole point. Here is an idea: Make a new item called &amp;quot;gold nugget&amp;quot;. Every hour that you are standing on the gold mine square and your faction controls it, you get one gold nugget. Then create a hut 1 square adjacent to the mine and inside have an NPC called &amp;quot;gold prospector Jim&amp;quot; (for example), who will &amp;quot;cash in&amp;quot; your nuggets, 10 nuggets (or 5, or whatever is deemed the best number) for one coin. Gold nuggets on their own would have no value. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 14:57, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****You could achieve the same effect without creating a prospector hut just by giving a straight 10% (or 20%) chance of 1 gold coin each hour. (To me a single &amp;quot;prospector Jim&amp;quot; gets a bit sketchy if a thousand people are rushing the mine...). In my opinion, you get better scalability and realism if the gold-per-person decreases as people increase. If there are a thousand people on the mine, then each person gets only 5% chance per hour (=50gc/hour production). If there are 10 people on the mine, then each one gets a 100% chance per hour (=10gc/hour production). Gold can't be earned from the mine when competing factions are on the location, creating a contested site is the purpose of implementing this suggestion. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:41, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::If there is a 10% chance to get one gold coin per hour, and if during a large portion of the day both natives and outsiders are on the gold mine square so no mining is going on, then the odds would be that the lots of people would get 0 gold coins (or very few) before being killed, a total waste of time for them, and they might not bother going back after they're killed, which defeats the gold mine's purpose as a strategic location that people will fight over. This is why I say people need something tangible every hour. In fact, that should be revised to &amp;quot;something tangible every AP turnover&amp;quot;, i.e. every 20 minutes. Even if someone is there for only a short time, they should have something to show for it, which they almost certainly wouldnt with a low % chance per hour of getting one gold coin. Your idea of scaling the gold that the mine produces could be implemented by making Gold Prospector Jim give fewer gold coins the more nuggets he receives. In other words, a gold mining version of the current trading system. Since he will have received 0 gold nuggets as the mine is first discovered, one gold nugget could trade for one gold coin, and as more people start cashing in, the value of a gold nuggest would go down, to where he wants 20 or so nuggets for one gold coin. The value would fluctuate throughout the day and week as people cash in more gold nuggets. This way, scalability is achieved while continuing to be able to reward something tangible every AP turnover. Also, I would say gold nuggets should take 0 inventory space just like gold coins, since in theory 72 could be given out per day to one person, and that would fill up anyone's inventory, allowing them to not receive any more.  [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 00:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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* An alternative to the gold mine would be some kind of ancient treasure hoard, so not just gold coins but also statues, ancient armour and maybe some pretty nasty weapons. However, to get the good stuff you'd have to go into the trap-filled maze and actually make it into the chamber where the treasure is. With spirit-proof doors so people don't just die, go in, find the correct route, revive and go in...[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 17:33, 24 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**This is interesting but seems overly complicated, and seems like more of a one-shot kind of thing, but most significantly there is no real value in holding such a location. A gold mine would be a simple, straightforward, and constantly of high value to occupy. Also, once one person finds the way through the maze, soon everyone would know. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 14:57, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Good point... Ignore my suggestion, it's not very good... [[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 12:27, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Life cycle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Currently the main way of leveling up is by killing things (i.e. NPCs &amp;amp; characters) I suggest there be some sort of life cycle for animals. For example, when there are massive amounts of tigers being killed less spawn. But if everybody leaves tigers alone, more spawn. If would look something like this:&lt;br /&gt;
:0-5% of animal type killed, x5 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:6-15% of animal type killed, x2 spawn rate &lt;br /&gt;
:16-45% of animal type killed x1 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:46-75% of animal type killed x0.5 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:76-99% of animal type killed x0.1 spawn rate&lt;br /&gt;
:100% of animal type killed, animal is extinct&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=03:22, 29 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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I have the funny feeling that animals would start going extinct, which would just be a pain. I'd rather not see this one implemented.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:50, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Would work if there was a total animal population that was always kept, so if tigers start to become extinct more deer appear, but this would lead to an island of only elephants.  Would also work if the animals that were extinct reemerged later on, then it would just be annoying.  But the goal of &amp;quot;find alt ways to gain Xp&amp;quot; won't be realised via this manner - it would instead lead to more player vs player action.  Instead of taking away our current methods, perhaps other methods of xp gaining could be added, like the agriculture skill, or some current activities could have an xp bonus (we get xp for uncovering trees, why not for finding fruits? Could trading become xp-worthy?).--[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 16:47, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I don't know why we should force people to find the lucrative alternative ways to gain XP. Animals are extremely rare in some areas of Shartak, and PKing and PvP is common. Banshee wailing spam, punch-heal farming, and gratuitous healer orgies are annoying enough already. Basically, the non-healing/non-harming XP paths need to be more viable: XP for exploring, chopping, discovery, contacting foreign villages, and so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 10:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moving through fully chopped down or overgrown jungle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Movement change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Every character in the game|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I sugget a change in the movement mechanics. It may not be approved by you, but I think it's logical. I wouls like to see a change that allows to reduce movement on fully chopped (d0) squares of jungle (I think that a reduction to 0,5 AP/move &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(0,25 AP/move with Trekking skill)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, and an increase on (I think) squares ranging from d7 to d9 to 2 AP/move (1 AP/move with Trekking). D10 squares stay impossible to pass, until chopped. The logic says that when you have nothing under your feet except for ground you move faster, and in dense growth areas you walk slower. Such a change as I proposed may also need an adjustment in the jungle growth speed.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=22:15, 1 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Xintlaer|Xintlaer]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I like this, except the part about the trekking skill giving the ability to move 4 d(0) squares in one AP, that should definitely not be done. Maybe this: trekking should only apply to d(1) and up (the skill description says &amp;quot;faster movement through the jungle&amp;quot; anyway), and on d(0), all characters, whether trekking or not, should expend 0.5 AP to move onto another d(0) square. (note that if both of those changes are made it would not harm trekking-people, their AP-usage would be same as it is now.) One benefit of lowering movement cost on d(0) squares as far as game dynamics is concerned, is that it would make roads, the upkeep of roads, and the upkeep of towns (keeping towns free of jungle overgrowth), actually meaningful in a practical sense, by allowing for quicker travel. [[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 22:41, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Exactly what I was going to say, Arminius. Trekking on a road would be absolutely incredible... so we just don't give trekkers any added bonus there.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:52, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***Understood, agreed, changing--[[User:Xintlaer|Xintlaer]] 09:13, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*0.5 AP per square on roads (still 0.5 AP with Trekking). 2 AP per square on heavy jungle (1 AP with Trekking). Creates tangible effect for the Highway Society - Preservation Front conflicts. An absolutely brilliant suggestion. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 10:06, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Nice idea. Tap tap tap.. try that.. I think it should be pretty much what you've said. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 19:40, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Message in a bottle===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item, message system|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All characters in Beach terrain|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Much like the &amp;quot;make signpost&amp;quot; action, creating a message in a bottle will only be available to players standing in Beach terrain. Unless the &amp;quot;Refillable containers&amp;quot; suggestion is implemented, to create a message in a bottle will require a bottle of beer, bottle of rum, or bottle of water and some newer items - parchment and charred driftwood or berry paint. There would be a textarea and a button, much like the existing message actions. Upon clicking the &amp;quot;make message&amp;quot; button, the items required are removed from the player's inventory and their text message is added to the database.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although it would be neat to actually see the bottles floating in the water and following unique movement patterns, that would lead to some very cluttered areas. So instead the message in a bottle becomes a rare search result in Beach terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a player finds a message in a bottle the system generates a random number and selects the associated message to that number from the database. After reading the message, the player has the option to destroy or return the bottle. Destroying the message in a bottle removes it from the database. Returning it throws the bottle back into the sea to be found again. There should probably be a default message in the event that all the unique messages are destroyed or the search odds could be modified to reflect that there are no more messages in a bottle to be found.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each message could also have a stat to display how many times the message was read before.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=05:33, 6 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Map quest===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Quest|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All characters, new NPCs|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=There is a limited usefulness for the map for those without access to the mapping scripts. There is also a limited incentive for players to explore foreign camps. This suggestion provides a simple quest for players to hopefully address both issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each town will possess a new NPC (or possibly a retooled home shaman or trader) that has a fragment of a map. The fragment will display the general vicinity around the camp. After a player interacts with the NPC and acquires a map fragment, they can view map.html and see two new buttons: &amp;quot;view torn map&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;compare maps&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;View torn map&amp;quot; will display the collection of map fragments acquired by the player. &amp;quot;Compare maps&amp;quot; will overlay the player's personal map on top of the torn map.&lt;br /&gt;
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I imagine the map fragments to resemble the parchment look featured in the game logo, but each camp might use a different medium or writing implement which will give the torn map a patchwork appearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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The map fragments will not take up any inventory space and not even be listed in the inventory. On a character's profile page it may be possible to display their progress with the quest: (1/7 map fragments).&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously, having just the area of the camps mapped out will leave some large missing chunks in the torn map. There could be a hermit NPC that will complete the torn map once each fragment is obtained. The complete map can also have the feature of unlocking new territory. Talking to special elder NPCs will mark the map with locations that are viewable and enterable only by those with complete, marked maps.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=19:53, 6 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* dd destroyer[pistol] */&lt;/p&gt;
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== Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Item, modification|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=GPS unit|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=21:48, 23 February 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
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This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
''You hear random drumming in the distance.''&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=22:35, 9 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#Anyone with a drum can drum a message for 1 AP per character. (Yes, even outsiders; Morse code isn't rocket science.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:54, 9 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=06:18, 1 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Throgonuts|Throgonuts]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===dd destroyer[pistol]===&lt;br /&gt;
'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!(4 dmg). [[riddick]] 21,25 8th June,2006(GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Item, modification|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=GPS unit|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=21:48, 23 February 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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1.Rifle skills- reason: the ap you spent getting the xp for those skills was better used searching for a heavy sword.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===animal wearings===&lt;br /&gt;
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm thinking that drums could be to natives what GPS units are to outsiders in terms of cost, usefulness, and skill requirements. Here's how it works in my mind:&lt;br /&gt;
::#Anyone with a drum can drum a message for 1 AP per character. (Yes, even outsiders; Morse code isn't rocket science.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only natives, and outsiders with ''Native Knowledge'', can determine the direction of a beat. (Bass noises are the hardest to pinpoint.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Only players on the same side as the drummer, and players on the other side with language skills, can interpret beats, as with all other communication in the game. (Unskilled listeners hear &amp;quot;random drumming&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;&amp;lt;garbled message&amp;gt;&amp;quot;, since extremely short messages will be quite common and language obfuscation doesn't touch the first letter of a word. ''Basic Language'' gives a 33% chance to interpret the message, ''Advanced Language'' 66%, and ''Expert Language'' 100%.)&lt;br /&gt;
::#Every beat is audible to everyone in the 13 by 13 square with the drummer at its center. (13 by 13 is just large enough to cover an entire camp, and camps should be communication hubs, after all.)&lt;br /&gt;
::In general, this item would benefit natives about as much as GPS units benefit outsiders. The hearing radii and AP costs of messages could be changed easily if drums became too powerful, annoying, or ineffective. And yes, I've played Urban Dead. =)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===dd destroyer[pistol]===&lt;br /&gt;
'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!. [[riddick]] 21,25 8th June,2006(GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
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**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===animal wearings===&lt;br /&gt;
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All outsiders|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===pistol===&lt;br /&gt;
'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!. [[riddick]] 21,25 8th June,2006(GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=GPS unit|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=21:48, 23 February 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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1.Rifle skills- reason: the ap you spent getting the xp for those skills was better used searching for a heavy sword.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===animal wearings===&lt;br /&gt;
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!. [[riddick]]21,25 8th June,2006(GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Ranged weapons ===&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===animal wearings===&lt;br /&gt;
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All outsiders|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
''You watch your pigeon fly off and hope it doesn't get intercepted.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
''You hear random drumming in the distance.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=06:18, 1 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===pistol===&lt;br /&gt;
'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!.[[riddick]]8th June,2006(GMT).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Item, modification|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=GPS unit|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=21:48, 23 February 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
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This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
''You hear random drumming in the distance.''&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=22:35, 9 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type=New Item|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=06:18, 1 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Throgonuts|Throgonuts]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===pistol===&lt;br /&gt;
'''description:''' shartak needs more than one gun,so thats why i thought up a pistol!.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Absinth ===&lt;br /&gt;
Could have a very low chance of being found, and would display as &amp;quot;Bottle of absinth&amp;quot; (in addition to the existing &amp;quot;Bottle of beer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Bottle of water&amp;quot;). Would result in a distortion of game display, showing some kind of living beings (native, outsiders or animals) as another kind (a native could be displayed as an outsider or an animal), causing the intoxicated character to attack people he wouldn't have attacked otherwise, or trying to role-play with an angry elephant. --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 03:53, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*No reason to drink it then? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 23:37, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I'm sure someone would drink it anyway. Could bring back some HP, of course... --[[User:Mad Robert|Mad Robert]] 23:50, 19 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole &amp;quot;distortion of game display&amp;quot; thing sounds too complicated. If it's a powerful enough hallucinogen, it could work as a teleporter to a random nearby location (&amp;quot;As the effects of the absinthe wear off, you realize that you have moved to a different part of the jungle.&amp;quot;). But I think it'd be better theme-wise to introduce a plant native to the island with such an effect; also, these &amp;quot;strange herbs&amp;quot; would give outsiders something to confuse healing herbs with. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:24, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spear ===&lt;br /&gt;
It could be the native warriors main weapon, give it a base damage of 3, same to hit as machete but it wouldn't cut through jungle -- [[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 11:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*A spear for stabbing or a spear for throwing (i.e single use) ? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 15:49, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**I like the idea of a spear for stabbing. We have enough single use weapons in the game, already. What would make it so different from a blowgun, if it is throwable? Which brings up another question: With a weapon that deals 3 damage and is reusable, who will bother with a blowgun?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 06:54, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The machete is already better than the blowpipe if you've got the three melee upgrades, and the spear would represent a third melee weapon warriors like me would need to carry around (along with a knife for writing and a machete for chopping). I don't see a point, unless it's to compete with the heavy sword, in which case I'd recommend that the heavy sword be toned down. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 13:32, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Head-shrinking powder ===&lt;br /&gt;
This could be either a melee or area weapon used by natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What are the effects of it? Causes X HP of damage? Loss of AP? Loss of XP? Instant death? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Could be used on a body to create a totem of some sort. This can then be placed in a square. People from the same village or settlement as the now shrunken head take twice as many AP to move through because of fear. Disintergrates after x number of people have moved through the square. {{unsigned|Hyper tyger|17:18, March 18, 2006 (BST) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Meat ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heals 2 HP. Used by both outsiders and tribals. It appears in your inventory when you kill a beastie. [[User:Bungalow Bill|Bungalow Bill]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*But you can only carry 200 pounds of meat back to your wagon. &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/oregontrail&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:15, 13 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Or you have to cook it, taking one AP and possibly a fire-lighting skill (who wants to eat raw monkey?).[[User:MorkaisChosen|MorkaisChosen]] 20:12, 20 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**Maybe you don't have to cook it but you get less HP and possibly lose HP to food poisoning. [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
*Or, to make it more, hm, tribal, you could need to bring it back to specific places in the village where it could be (instantaneously) cooked and used as a replenished &amp;quot;health pool&amp;quot; any player could use. You would still have the occasional berries to eat in the forest, but real meal would occure at a settlement. It would also provide a more efficient healing system (as currently, you roughly get to spend 50 AP to recover 4 or 5 HP, which makes death the most efficient way to restore your HP). -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
**''There is a large pot of stew cooking, it appears to be half full.''&lt;br /&gt;
***''You eat some and feel better. After a few spoonfuls you find your friend's pocket watch.'' [DarkFerret]&lt;br /&gt;
**Make it 1 HP per kg of meat (basing carcass size loosely on the animal's starting HP), and make each HP of carried meat fill 1 inventory space (and pretend preservation isn't a problem). Put an ever-boiling pot in each village (in a boring oudoor place; we could use more points of interest), and give people experience points whenever they contribute meat to any pot (more meat gives you more XP, and putting meat in the pot of your home village gives you extra (double?) XP). Omnipresent spices and palate differences could make food at Outsider villages inedible for Natives, and vice-versa. (Pirates ought to be able to eat from any pot, but for half the health benefit. Maybe they should even be able to eat meat raw.) Any non-meat added to the pot would simply disappear (and poison from poison berries would be broken up by the heat). This system would (1) encourage community, (2) increase realism (there's currently no realistic reason for a non-warrior to kill a non-threatening animal), and (3) provide another theme-fitting non-combat XP path. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Radio beacon/receiver ===&lt;br /&gt;
A radio beacon/receiver for outsiders to pinpoint specific locations of interest.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What's wrong with using the GPS co-ordinates of a specific location? - [[User:Snarf|Snarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Perhaps a way to have GPS waypoints or markers IN one own's GPS? --[[User:Wcervantes|Wcervantes]] 19:39, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Holy Scriptures ===&lt;br /&gt;
Used to convert Natives into Ousiders. Requires &amp;quot;Religious Devotion&amp;quot;. Most likely found around Outsider settlements --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 23:22, 16 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nobody wants to have a class change againt their will. -Grigoriy&lt;br /&gt;
*Noone wants to die against their will either, but it does happen ;-) Might be irritating, but also might be quite interesting. It would have to be possible both ways of course, natives to outsiders and outsiders to natives. Perhaps the outsiders can convert natives to outsiders with holy scriptures using the religious devotion skill and natives can convert outsiders to natives with a bottle of beer using the seduction skill! ;-) --[[User:Murk|Murk]] 12:28, 4 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion gets awfully mucky, when you consider available skills. I would say that a better idea would be for use of Holy Scriptures on a native to prompt the natives with an invitation to change sides--without changing class. This would make them see outsiders by name, make natives anonymous, and cause them to show up on the map as &amp;quot;1 convert&amp;quot; to outsiders (as opposed to &amp;quot;1 native&amp;quot;) and as &amp;quot;1 traitor&amp;quot; to natives. Converting back would require a shaman with an equivalent skill (which can, of course, offer outsiders an opportunity to be accepted into native communities).&lt;br /&gt;
:Note, though, that I have no idea how difficult that would be to write in, given the existing code.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:01, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Such a feature would allow anyone to change class bath and forth at will by just using another of their characters of the appropriate class to effect the conversion, which makes classes virtually pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Class conversion sounds bad. Religion might be interesting, but this seems like a messy and unpleasant way to include it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== GPS Unit (Redesign) ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type=Item, modification|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=GPS unit|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=This is a suggestion to change the gps unit into an object that presumably fits better with the game setting. We currently have no other modern item available for use (anachronism - VOCABULARY WORD!). Perhaps we should use a sextant? And rather than reveal the position all of the time, it requires a 1 AP use in non-dense, non-enclosed area.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=21:48, 23 February 2006 (GMT)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Lint|Lint]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Yes, GPS units are indeed ''malapropos'' (another vocabulary word :D)--[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:33, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Y'know, the &amp;quot;GPS Unit&amp;quot; item has stuck out like a sore thumb to me too.  I'd be very much in favor of a lower-tech replacement, if only because it makes the game more timeless.  But what tools ''did'' explorers of earlier eras use to measure latitude and longitude while traveling by land, anyway? And how accurate were they? Alternatively phrased: if you were trapped on a desert island without a GPS Unit, how would you estimate where you were? Lint's suggestion for a lower-tech replacement item, requiring AP and suitable terrain conditions for proper use, appeals to me. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:03, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I've done some research into this and as Lint said, a sextant is what was used. Unfortunately though, a sextant doesn't do both longitude and latitude very quickly, you need charts/tables and several hours. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/longitude/secrets.html for info. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** Ahh; yeah, I had just been checking out http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=1268 myself.  If I'm reading it right, it sounds like the bulk of the hours of calculation involved were due to being at sea and having to figure out what time zone you're in first as part of the equation.  (Both pages mention a &amp;quot;chronometer&amp;quot; which was finally invented to try to solve that problem.)  On land, though -- and especially on an island of Shartak's size -- you pretty much know where you are, and you're not likely to be crossing time zones.  A quote from the Lewis &amp;amp; Clark page: &amp;quot;If time can be fixed along any meridian of longitude, then longitudinal distance can be determined by comparing time at that meridian with local time, usually based on the point at which the sun reaches its zenith.&amp;quot;  So.  I wonder if we could fudge a bit with this sextant business by assuming that everyone on the island is able to determine what time it is on Shartak -- after all, we do get timestamped event messages! ;) -- and therefore we can apply that bit of knowledge to help determine longitude, overcoming the sextant's weakness.  That could even go in the FAQ.  I'm not really all that scientifically inclined, so please do feel welcome to correct me if if my thoughts are way off base.  In closing, I still like Lint's ideas about making it cost AP and require suitable terrain.  The former would represent the investment of time in setting up the equipment and doing the calculations.  The latter would give players a reason to clear a square of jungle. --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 16:07, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** That all sounds good. I think there is a skill in there as well - I don't suppose a sextant is as accurate as GPS, so why not have it not produce the same result all of the time? Someone with the &amp;quot;Skillful Sextant Supervisor&amp;quot; skill gets more accurate results. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 16:17, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** The AP cost of a sextant or other device could easily be added to the GPS unit by requiring that you 'use gps' to get the reading rather than it being on all the time. Whilst redesigning the GPS unit, how about thinking of something for natives to find out where they are - obviously not as accurate as a sextant, but something to guide them around or to specific locations. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 16:30, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Just consider it a redesigned sextant that some mythical character dropped around the island and call it &amp;quot;Professor Inglewood's Speedy Sextant And Nano Tables&amp;quot; or some other such nonesense and leave it working the same, just with a different name.  As for natives, maybe they could see/read totems at different points in the jungle, indicating where resources/towns are. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 17:06, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***Natives divine their position with animal feces. It can be a new skill ;) Actually, in all seriousness, perhaps something involving animal bones? It would need to be something mystical, as there just isn't a more primitive method than the sextant. That way, it sort of balances; you use animal bone dice for a few minutes to divine your position accurately, and outsiders sit dow nand use a sextant.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:08, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***I'm currently of the opinion that the Natives don't need a version of the GPS. It helps a little with the mapping projects and location scripts. But my Shaman was just as lost than my gps-using Settler when I was traipsing through the Jungle. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 23:10, 30 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
****So natives need a sensing skill that gives them direction and distance to the nearest village. Natives seem to flail at the beginning compared to outsiders: every outsider counterpart item/skill is stronger (especially gps, blowpipe vs rifle, and the lack of bottled water). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*****How about giving Natives a 'always on' ability (like the GPS is now). They have been born and raised here, they _always_ know where they are (or perhaps it should be modified so that they always know where they are in relation to their village - ie, (201N, 34E of Wiksik). Make the GPS a sextant and require an AP to take a reading and perform the calculations. I would go so far as to suggest that it be tied to the Cartography skill or possibly an additional skill in the Cartography tree.[[User:Anothertwilight|Anothertwilight]] 06:20, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
******I like this idea as well as Frisco's. Rename the GPS, keep its 0 AP use cost, and give all Natives the ability to &amp;quot;Sense Position&amp;quot; for 1 AP and be told the direction and rough distance of the nearest village. (&amp;quot;After several minutes of attentive communion with the spirits, you sense that Raktam is about a day's journey north of here.&amp;quot;) Maybe even take the GPS away; the Natives should know their way around better than the Outsiders. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Refillable containers ===&lt;br /&gt;
Does it really make sense that after drinking something, you automatically discard the container it had been in? I propose a modification to the inventory system so bottles/gourds work similar to rifles and blowguns--they can be refilled if they are empty. Obviously, you can't just carry around spare water like you can ammo, so to refill a water container, you have to be in water. This would clearly make areas near water more popular, which I don't think is a bad thing, or without precedent.   Furthermore, this could lead to new and interesting directions, such as other liquids that could be carried around, causing various effects. Off the top of my head:&lt;br /&gt;
* drinking too much &amp;quot;ocean&amp;quot; water will make you sick (reducing your hit % temporarily)&lt;br /&gt;
* a &amp;quot;create mysterious serum&amp;quot; skill  the shaman/scientist can eventually learn that (along with certain ingredients) lets them create a &amp;quot;buff&amp;quot; potion.&lt;br /&gt;
* special healing water springs that have double the recuperative effect&lt;br /&gt;
This would also address one of the concerns I've had regarding healing skills. To my knowledge, there is no place in Shartak where you are more likely to consistantly find healing kits/herbs, etc. its all fairly random. By comparision, UD has certain buildings where you can only find certain items (i.e. hospitals = first aid kits). IMO, its currently too difficult/AP consuming to heal. Without a way to consistantly find/create healing items, it's not likely there will be &amp;quot;healers&amp;quot; willing to use their hard-to-find healing items on anyone else. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:14, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Have you found the hut in Dalpok with all the drying herbs hanging up? Says something about a shaman being busy, I seem to have a reasonable success rate at finding healing herbs there. Not sure if there are more around. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:17, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**No, I hadn't noticed such a hut(s), I've assumed they were all pretty much the same. If certain huts are more likely to contain certain items, I've another suggestion--'''label them'''. Any opinion on my primary suggestion of refillable containers? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 22:31, 25 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***I can confirm that huts may look identical on the outside, but their inside descriptions can differ significantly.  Fortunately, anyone with the right tool can carve a message on a hut's outer walls, such as &amp;quot;Empty Inside&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shaman's Hut&amp;quot;.  --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Refillable containers? Give the user the choice to discard the container? Sure, sounds cool to me.  About the water supply: I agree that ocean water (water right off the beach) would be bound to be salty and unpotable in a real-world scenario.  According to the [[Locations]] page, there's a river off the south side of the mountain, which would seem to be the only known terrestrial fresh water source on the whole island.  Hmm, a thought: If we were to have refillable containers, then might one also expect there to be wells in or around the villages? --[[User:Berry|Berry]] 14:24, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**There is at least one more (much shorter) river near Derby. I'll bet there is a lake or two somewhere as well. Wells are probably not a bad idea. --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 15:05, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
***According to the [http://www.itechsc.com/misc/shartak/ubermap/ uber map] there are three lakes (two are close to each other) in addition to the river, and a pond by Durham. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Remove uber sword of doom(aka heavy sword) ===&lt;br /&gt;
I don't even have a heavy sword yet but I can already tell(from the item page) that it makes a lot of things utterly useless.Just for reference the heavy sword is(when maxed attack skills) 45% hit, 5dam= '''2.25dam/ap'''. What does it make useless, well let me begin.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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1.Rifle skills- reason: the ap you spent getting the xp for those skills was better used searching for a heavy sword.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.Rifle- reason: the dam/ap for the rifle is lower than a the heavy sword '''before''' factoring in the search for ammo part. The math: the rifle is 5 dam,60% hit,1.5 ap/shot( 3ap per 2 shots i think)= (5*.6)/1.5 =3/1.5 = '''2ap/dam NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The blowpipe- reason: the blowpipe sucks as it is, the machete makes it pointless(unless they actually poison) and the heavy sword just makes it absolute garbage(even if they poisoned). The math: 4 dam, 20% hit, 2ap/shot(assuming you have to reload after every shot i don't use the blowpipe so I wouldn't know)= (4*.2)/2=.8/2= '''.4 dam/ap NOT FACTORING IN SEARCHING FOR AMMO'''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conclusion- I realize there are problems with the blowpipe but as far as I can tell with the rifle there are none. The knowledge of there even being a heavy sword is enough to discourage those that would take rifles training as a skill. The sword is just too powerful to balance in game as the only way to balance it would be to add another item that is just as crazy powerful, making it rare does nothing to the balance as people can still find it and it makes those few ,whom the RNG loves, ridiculosly overpowered. If the RNG loves somebody they should get multipul hits in a row not the ability to destroy everybody who can't/doesn't want to waste the ap to gain that ability. And after all just because it is rare doesn't mean we all can't find it, I know eventually we would all find one and there would be no variaty whatsoever in battle. Take urban dead for example they balanced the shotguns,pistols, and fireaxe evenly so there is no superior choice its about how you want to play. With the heavy sword it makes all other items pale in comparison BEFORE search rates are keyed into calculations, in urban dead it is AFTER that they are about even. This suggestion to remove something doesn't punish anybody because as of right now we do not know where to find the heavy sword, the only ones were stumbled across randomly so nobody would really have &amp;quot;wasted&amp;quot; the ap to find it(unless they have but I know after reading a bit I didn't for the fun reducing factor everybody having one would bring). Also don't bring up things about how I don't know how it works ingame because unless it takes 6ap to attack the math shows it is unbalanced. Please Simon fix this unbalanced  weapon by removing it, not by making everything else oh so much better. ANybody who is with me sign in the comments please.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The math looks sound. And I agree that having everyone run around with Heavy Swords would make for a plain game. However, I don't see why it needs to be removed completely. Is there anything we can do to the sword mechanics to make it more even with the existing weapons? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:04, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I agree. The machete with maxed out melee skils is arguably better than any other weapon, and the heavy sword makes that look like a butter knife. Yank it or make it so rare it would be like winning the lottery twice. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:49, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I disagree with some of the logic in this argument.  If the heavy sword were a common weapon, then I could understand the concern; however, the &amp;quot;über sword of doom&amp;quot; is hardly of such availability.  As far as I know, only one player has the sword.  Having rare items like it add a new dimension to the game - a sort of treasure hunting aspect.  I would even propose that even more superior weapons are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; around the island, possibly protected by superior animals. --[[User:Gandhi|Gandhi]] 00:34, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** One player on the [[Game design]] page has commented on how he has acquired 3 Heavy Swords. Don't get me wrong, some weapons should be better than others to allow for diversity (that's why there's knives, daggers, and whatnot). However, as it stands, the Heavy Sword to our knowledge is the single best weapon available. Everyone is going to be running around with it and if you don't have one, you won't be able to compete. It'd be like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors-Nuclear Bomb and Nuclear Bomb always wins. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 00:52, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Are these even real? I mean, how many people claim to have gotten them? one? This almost looks like a pretty funny joke. Also, Simon has stayed silent on this, implying some sort of uber sword conspiracy, so perhaps we shouldn't rock the boat. (Cue up suspenseful music) -[[User:BananaBear|BananaBear]] 06:02, 22 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**i have 3 swords ,but i'm reading it's really rare. I feel really lucky :). Oh , and i think it's too powerful compared to other weapons. Maybe there must be other rare ranged weapons (like some 6 or 7 o 8 damage rifle) or something like this --[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 09:38, 27 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I thought I'd made them fairly rare (after the initial burst of finding them) but I think I made them too rare perhaps. There are still only 4 people with them, looks like the same 4 who had them originally. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 00:01, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Do you even have one Simon? --[[User:Grigoriy|Grigoriy]] 00:17, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Nope. No heavy sword for any of my characters. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*The original poster is correct about rifles/blowpipes being too weak. The rifle's AP/damage ratio is actually much lower than even the machete's, let alone the mysterious heavy sword. The rifle's accuracy is its edge, but 60% maximum accuracy really isn't *that* high or that much of an advantage over the 45% machete accuracy. The introduction of two new skills to the firearms skill tree, &amp;quot;Marksmanship&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Expert Marksmanship&amp;quot;, each of which would add 10 or 15% to rifle/blowpipe accuracy, would help to solve this problem I would say (I dont know if anything like this has been proposed before). Dont remove the heavy sword, just make rifles more powerful.  -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 01:29, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* With the addition of the forgotten blowpipe skills, that should help the blowpipe ratio, and I'd say ignore the heavy sword since it seems so rare that you'll be lucky to get one unless someone trades one in for some essential supplies. Not sure about 80% accuracy with either of the ranged weapons - would those skills be available to all or just as an extension to firearms/blowpipe training? What happens to the blowpipe damage if the poisoning suggestion is implemented and the poison effect is added that takes away 1-5 HP over the next 5 AP unless you use serum or first aid kit (damage numbers not definite, just a rough figure)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:18, 8 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I was thinking that the new skill(s) would be part of the ranged weapon skill tree (how can one be a marksman if he does not have firearms training). I like the idea of making a ranged skill available to all though. A maximum accuracy of 20% for all non-soldier/warrior characters seems very low. Maybe the first skill in the tree should be available to all, but the next 2 or 3 skills only for soldiers/warriors? Just an idea. -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* I think adding one skills for rifle and one for blowpipe is really cool. Marksmanship is a nice name , but not to add accuracy, but to add +2 to damage. Poisoning for blowpipe go well too. Oh, and one of my swords is gone ç__ç. And about trading, i tried to trade one of them , but the trader didn't have 49 gold coins..and i think you can add some powerful and rare rifle--[[User:JonesDye|JonesDye]] 08:42, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Currently the rifle (w/both skills) gets only 0.75 damage/AP total (searching, loading, and shooting) based on my calculation, and 3 damage/AP in combat (only shooting). The machete (w/all three skills) gets 1.35 damage/AP and obviously requires no searching or loading. I think that new skill(s) for the rifle/blowpipe to get their damage/AP ratio closer to (but not equal to or past) the 1.35 machete ratio would be the best way to go. If a new skill or two increases ranged damage by 2 as JonesDye suggested, the result would be a ratio of 1.05 total damage/AP, and 4.2 damage/AP in combat. (If skills are added to increase maximum accuracy to 80%, the result would be 1 total damage/AP and 4 damage/AP in combat.) This, I think, would be a better balance. Ranged weapons should be superior to the machete in combat, and they are, but currently they are only 2.2 times better (3 vs. 1.35). The proposed new combat ratio of ~4 damage/AP would be three times better than the machete in combat, although still inferior in total damage/AP ratio. (Note that the combat ratios mentioned above are exact, but the total damage/AP ratios are not exact because I do not know the % chance to find ammunition. The total damage/AP numbers used above assume that a total of 5 bullets can be found in 10 searches on average, which may be a liberal estimate but seemed accurate based on my experience.) -[[User:Arminius|Arminius]] 02:50, 12 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Still, 3 damage per AP isn't that bad. You can track someone down, kill someone outright in ~25 AP with a rack of rifles, and run far away -- whereas a machete might take 60 AP to cause ~81 damage. The blowpipe needs a lot of help: you can only carry half as many loaded pipes, and so you have to waste time in combat reloading. I believe that blowdart poison could cause another 1 dmg/turn for 4 turns (8 damage total if they don't heal) and it still wouldn't be overpowered. 20% to hit is totally useless, though. I would suggest something like a 20% -&amp;gt; 35% marksman upgrade for all classes, then 35% -&amp;gt; 50% -&amp;gt; 65% for soldier/warrior. Unless a non-soldier can attain a 35% or 40% to-hit rate with a rifle (higher with a blowpipe), the weapon serves absolutely no purpose -- it is just a glorified 1/3-gem. And if the heavy sword has the same break rate as other blades in the game, then there is no problem with a 1/3000 find rate or whatever. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:59, 10 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*As long as the heavy sword is extremely rare and quite powerful, why not replace it with a single &amp;quot;elephant sword&amp;quot;, or something with a similarly grand title. There would only be one on the island (or one per village: &amp;quot;The Elephant Sword of York&amp;quot;, etc.), its carrier would not be able to drop it (or, if dropped, it would be given to the next player revived by that village's shaman), players would get a special message upon being attacked by it, and it would change possession to the player who would kill its carrier. Also, its carrier should get a movement penalty so they'll be easier to catch. (And perhaps every person should have a sixth sense to divine the location of their village's Elephant Sword.) In short, if the sword is going to be rare, ''make it special''. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I never used a rifle, but the blowpipe feels quite useless at the moment indeed (unless it poisons). I was wondering if a ranged aspect could be added to those weapons to make up for their poor hp/ap ratio and their ammo requirement (and their lack of poison?). In practice, that would mean that once the rifle (or the blowpipe (I wonder if it poisons)) is selected from the attack drop-down menu, the target drop-down menu would include the entities from the surrounding squares. That would allow for some slightly safer attacks, especially in difficult terrain, or for around four minutes of triumph for having attacked someone from the distance (and poisonned him?), before being machetted to death anyway. That is: not much, but the satisfying feeling to have used a special weapon, with its own pros. -- Leaf&lt;br /&gt;
* Ranged weapon skills for warriors to boost the blowpipe are in the pipeline. Seems I missed a section from my notes when adding skills. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 10:12, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sweet --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 06:34, 14 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
**A bit of poison on that blowdart (1 hp dmg per move for 4 turns e.g.) would be nice. The current blowpipe is totally hopeless as a weapon, even for warriors. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:22, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===studded leather &amp;amp; war gear===&lt;br /&gt;
both items have the same effect, except one is for outsiders and one is for natives, upon looking at the names, i cant really tell which would be for who, but that doesnt matter.&lt;br /&gt;
theese items could act likee flak jackets, but could (possibly) have the chance of inflicting damage upon being hit, as per, a guy with tons of knives on him being punched would probably cut up his assailant's hands. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hm. I don't like the idea of inflicting damage on the assailant. I think that's a bit of a stretch. I could see outsiders coming over with breastplates and whatnot (a la John Smith, be it the noble stud from ''Pocahontas'' or the weaselly entrapeneur from history). Natives, though, would be unlikely to have that much. Perhaps, though, a wooden, oblong, leaf-shaped shield. Perhaps it would give a small (10%?) chance of blocking a melee attack. Thus, both sides would have a form of protection, but they would be ''different'' forms of protection, serving to distinguish the two sides.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===animal wearings===&lt;br /&gt;
such as teeth and hide could be added to one's [[inventory]] or slot for extra damage, accuracy, etc.. {{unsigned|Richard Rose|04:59, March 29, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Honestly, this just seems silly. Why would I suddenly hurt you more for having a tiger tooth in my pocket?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:32, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*It would be a psychological effect. A tribesman who believes that the spirit of the tiger is strengthening his arm through the use of a magic talismen will fight harder. {{unsigned|Naomi|19:56, April 10, 2006 (BST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::*I ''still'' think it's a huge stretch.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*Yah, shamanic magic being able to cause or prevent damage is a stretch, tell that to the dozens of spirits farming xp in my hut. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Messenger Pigeons===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_description=Allows Outsiders to send messages over long distances. Just type up the message and enter the recepient's name and the bird flies off. &lt;br /&gt;
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*How would you handle said &amp;quot;interception?&amp;quot; Would you be notified of pigeons sent off within a certain number of squares, and offered a chance to stop it? Would it show up as an actual animal that one could kill? I would say that the idea of sending a messenger pigeon along as a new, low-hp NPC with a specific destination is neat, but I don't know how hard it would be on the server.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:35, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Moving an npc pigeon wouldn't be difficult as long as there were only a limited number of them in play at any one time. How would you specify the destination though - pigeons need to know the destination don't they (not sure how homing pigeons work)? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 14:38, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mmm. Maybe one would need to specify a GPS coordinate? Actually, I'm fairly certain that birds have been taught to find specific people that they are familiar with. Perhaps once we have a contacts list (do we? If so, I haven't been able to add anyone) we can send it to those listed on it? Then it would be rather like the mobile phone of UD... except that it takes time to travel, and could be killed for EXP by other players :) What kind of limit would you have in mind, by the way? I mean, I can't imagine a whole lot of people using this often enough for it to really be a problem, but as the game grows... You never know.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:12, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**I would say that you would have to have a the person on a contact list before you can send them a messenger pigeon. The pigeon would move like 1 square per 5 mins and would appear as an attackable animal. The limit is that there are only so many pigeons in Shartak. You would have to have a skill to capture one without killing it. This skill could also be used to capture a messenger pigeon without killing it in order to &amp;quot;intercept&amp;quot; the message. Or perhaps tehy are different skills? Pigeons would be reusable. --[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 01:27, 11 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Capturing and intercepting pigeons seems quite unrealistic. Instead, maybe you could give each village a communications hut with infinite pigeons, available to people from that village. Pigeons in inventory could be sent up with a message, and after some time they'd appear in their home villages and their messages would be held for their recipients. I like the drum idea better, though. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Drum===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All Natives|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Allows all Natives within a specified area to hear the senders message. Any Outsiders hear random drum beats unless they have the Expert Language skill. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A drum language? Neat. I would make it a native-only skill, though (how difficult would it be for an outsider to learn ''of'' the language, let alone the language itself?), and only one skill. Also, to show the difficulty of true articulation in such a language, it would be good to lower the character limit on drum messages. This way, long messages will be broken up, and will require a bit more AP.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 08:40, 10 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Awesome. A great idea to help underpowered natives (no bottles of water in native villages, terrible blowpipe, no gps, outnumbered, etc.) and also a cool new rare item. Doesn't appear abusable. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:27, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*I like this idea and think it should be open to Natives only, for the reasons [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] gave. Also, it stands to reason that Natives should have some kind of communication advantage, being Natives on the island and everything. Messages should have to be extremely short, or else there should be increasing AP costs for longer messages (1 AP per character, perhaps?). Think of Morse code. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hammer===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=Available to all characters|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=A basic hammer.  This item seems necessary for potential future building skills such as roads or huts or hut fortifications.  Hammers could also be used as offensive weapons.  They could also be subject to random breaking like machetes.|&lt;br /&gt;
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*I don't think we need another weapon until there's an actual niche for it to fill. I think hut-building would be great &amp;amp;mdash; require that all 8 surrounding jungle squares be cleared before one can be built, make huts destructable by melee weapons or by growing jungle in the immediate area, and turn standard medical/ammunition/trading huts into indestructable stone structures &amp;amp;mdash; but we don't need a hammer now. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] 15:41, 21 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Tunnels ===&lt;br /&gt;
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.&lt;br /&gt;
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:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Treasure to capture ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Capture the flag&amp;quot; type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location.  I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly &amp;quot;birthed&amp;quot; population.  As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spirit Movement ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My character has the &amp;quot;trekking&amp;quot; skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?&lt;br /&gt;
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Player Titles===&lt;br /&gt;
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles.  For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as &amp;quot;Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot&amp;quot;, if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be &amp;quot;The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter&amp;quot;, and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be &amp;quot;Demigod Murk&amp;quot;.  The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile.  This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inventory Limit===&lt;br /&gt;
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like &amp;quot;You can carry lots more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can carry more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry much more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You might be able to carry a couple more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry anything else&amp;quot;.  The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;is it just you that wants this feature?&amp;quot; Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps &amp;quot;your inventory is getting full&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;your inventory is full&amp;quot; would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***&amp;lt;Bump.&amp;gt; Also, why not &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication &amp;quot;(x)&amp;quot; would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===In-game Rankings===&lt;br /&gt;
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious &amp;quot;crown of the fallen parrots&amp;quot; appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]).  I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** What the heck!  Ha, sorry.  Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page.  Weird.  Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class.  Thanks, Simon.&lt;br /&gt;
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders.  Something simple like:&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pets ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''&lt;br /&gt;
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===ruins===&lt;br /&gt;
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to &amp;quot;explore&amp;quot; ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:&lt;br /&gt;
*unique, ruin only monsters&lt;br /&gt;
*special items found only in ruins&lt;br /&gt;
*if quests are implemented, a quest location&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character &amp;quot;Richard Rose&amp;quot; and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; components for ruins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors&amp;quot; (gain 1 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away.&amp;quot; (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul&amp;quot; (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(tm)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
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Add the concept of wind to the game.  Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on.  For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex.  Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Levelling===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature?  There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions.  And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is a man-eating tiger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one.  Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature.  Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be &amp;quot;King Kong&amp;quot; at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &amp;amp;mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that &amp;quot;an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot; has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hide Skills===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Technical|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Everyone|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a &amp;quot;Hide Skills&amp;quot; button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from &amp;quot;hiding your list of skills&amp;quot;... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a &amp;quot;Disguise&amp;quot; skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if  Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wiki Button===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Button|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).&lt;br /&gt;
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* There should be a button labelled &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think &amp;quot;what's a wiki?&amp;quot; and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Wiki,&amp;quot; I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jungle Regrowth===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of &amp;quot;seeding&amp;quot; each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of &amp;quot;growing&amp;quot; into the density level 1 above its current.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a &amp;quot;coding requirment&amp;quot; that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) |       &lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Meat===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says&amp;quot;there is a corpse of a large stag&amp;quot; that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Tunnels ===&lt;br /&gt;
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.&lt;br /&gt;
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:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Treasure to capture ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Capture the flag&amp;quot; type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location.  I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly &amp;quot;birthed&amp;quot; population.  As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spirit Movement ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My character has the &amp;quot;trekking&amp;quot; skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?&lt;br /&gt;
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.&lt;br /&gt;
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Player Titles===&lt;br /&gt;
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles.  For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as &amp;quot;Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot&amp;quot;, if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be &amp;quot;The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter&amp;quot;, and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be &amp;quot;Demigod Murk&amp;quot;.  The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile.  This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inventory Limit===&lt;br /&gt;
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like &amp;quot;You can carry lots more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can carry more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry much more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You might be able to carry a couple more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry anything else&amp;quot;.  The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;is it just you that wants this feature?&amp;quot; Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps &amp;quot;your inventory is getting full&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;your inventory is full&amp;quot; would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***&amp;lt;Bump.&amp;gt; Also, why not &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication &amp;quot;(x)&amp;quot; would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===In-game Rankings===&lt;br /&gt;
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious &amp;quot;crown of the fallen parrots&amp;quot; appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]).  I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** What the heck!  Ha, sorry.  Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page.  Weird.  Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class.  Thanks, Simon.&lt;br /&gt;
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pets ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''&lt;br /&gt;
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===ruins===&lt;br /&gt;
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to &amp;quot;explore&amp;quot; ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:&lt;br /&gt;
*unique, ruin only monsters&lt;br /&gt;
*special items found only in ruins&lt;br /&gt;
*if quests are implemented, a quest location&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character &amp;quot;Richard Rose&amp;quot; and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; components for ruins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors&amp;quot; (gain 1 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away.&amp;quot; (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul&amp;quot; (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(tm)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
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Add the concept of wind to the game.  Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on.  For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex.  Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Levelling===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature?  There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions.  And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is a man-eating tiger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one.  Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature.  Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be &amp;quot;King Kong&amp;quot; at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &amp;amp;mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that &amp;quot;an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot; has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type=Plugin|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hide Skills===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Technical|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Everyone|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a &amp;quot;Hide Skills&amp;quot; button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from &amp;quot;hiding your list of skills&amp;quot;... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a &amp;quot;Disguise&amp;quot; skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if  Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wiki Button===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Button|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).&lt;br /&gt;
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* There should be a button labelled &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think &amp;quot;what's a wiki?&amp;quot; and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Wiki,&amp;quot; I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jungle Regrowth===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of &amp;quot;seeding&amp;quot; each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of &amp;quot;growing&amp;quot; into the density level 1 above its current.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a &amp;quot;coding requirment&amp;quot; that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) |       &lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Meat===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says&amp;quot;there is a corpse of a large stag&amp;quot; that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Tunnels ===&lt;br /&gt;
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.&lt;br /&gt;
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:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Treasure to capture ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Capture the flag&amp;quot; type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location.  I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly &amp;quot;birthed&amp;quot; population.  As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spirit Movement ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My character has the &amp;quot;trekking&amp;quot; skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?&lt;br /&gt;
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.&lt;br /&gt;
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Player Titles===&lt;br /&gt;
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles.  For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as &amp;quot;Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot&amp;quot;, if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be &amp;quot;The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter&amp;quot;, and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be &amp;quot;Demigod Murk&amp;quot;.  The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile.  This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inventory Limit===&lt;br /&gt;
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like &amp;quot;You can carry lots more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can carry more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry much more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You might be able to carry a couple more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry anything else&amp;quot;.  The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;is it just you that wants this feature?&amp;quot; Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps &amp;quot;your inventory is getting full&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;your inventory is full&amp;quot; would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***&amp;lt;Bump.&amp;gt; Also, why not &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication &amp;quot;(x)&amp;quot; would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===In-game Rankings===&lt;br /&gt;
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious &amp;quot;crown of the fallen parrots&amp;quot; appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]).  I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** What the heck!  Ha, sorry.  Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page.  Weird.  Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class.  Thanks, Simon.&lt;br /&gt;
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders.  Something simple like:&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pets ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''&lt;br /&gt;
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===ruins===&lt;br /&gt;
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to &amp;quot;explore&amp;quot; ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:&lt;br /&gt;
*unique, ruin only monsters&lt;br /&gt;
*special items found only in ruins&lt;br /&gt;
*if quests are implemented, a quest location&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character &amp;quot;Richard Rose&amp;quot; and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; components for ruins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors&amp;quot; (gain 1 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away.&amp;quot; (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul&amp;quot; (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(tm)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
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Add the concept of wind to the game.  Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on.  For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex.  Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Levelling===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature?  There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions.  And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is a man-eating tiger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one.  Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature.  Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be &amp;quot;King Kong&amp;quot; at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &amp;amp;mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that &amp;quot;an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot; has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type=Plugin|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hide Skills===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Technical|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Everyone|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a &amp;quot;Hide Skills&amp;quot; button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from &amp;quot;hiding your list of skills&amp;quot;... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a &amp;quot;Disguise&amp;quot; skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if  Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wiki Button===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Button|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).&lt;br /&gt;
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* There should be a button labelled &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think &amp;quot;what's a wiki?&amp;quot; and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Wiki,&amp;quot; I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jungle Regrowth===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type= Alteration|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of &amp;quot;seeding&amp;quot; each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of &amp;quot;growing&amp;quot; into the density level 1 above its current.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a &amp;quot;coding requirment&amp;quot; that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) |       &lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Meat===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says&amp;quot;there is a corpse of a large stag&amp;quot; that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Tunnels ===&lt;br /&gt;
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.&lt;br /&gt;
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:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Treasure to capture ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Capture the flag&amp;quot; type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comments''&lt;br /&gt;
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location.  I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly &amp;quot;birthed&amp;quot; population.  As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Spirit Movement ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*My character has the &amp;quot;trekking&amp;quot; skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?&lt;br /&gt;
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.&lt;br /&gt;
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Player Titles===&lt;br /&gt;
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles.  For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as &amp;quot;Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot&amp;quot;, if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be &amp;quot;The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter&amp;quot;, and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be &amp;quot;Demigod Murk&amp;quot;.  The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile.  This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inventory Limit===&lt;br /&gt;
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like &amp;quot;You can carry lots more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can carry more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry much more&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You might be able to carry a couple more things&amp;quot; &amp;quot;You can't carry anything else&amp;quot;.  The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;is it just you that wants this feature?&amp;quot; Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps &amp;quot;your inventory is getting full&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;your inventory is full&amp;quot; would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***&amp;lt;Bump.&amp;gt; Also, why not &amp;quot;(x/y)&amp;quot; appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication &amp;quot;(x)&amp;quot; would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===In-game Rankings===&lt;br /&gt;
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious &amp;quot;crown of the fallen parrots&amp;quot; appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]).  I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
** What the heck!  Ha, sorry.  Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page.  Weird.  Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class.  Thanks, Simon.&lt;br /&gt;
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders.  Something simple like:&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pets ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''&lt;br /&gt;
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===ruins===&lt;br /&gt;
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to &amp;quot;explore&amp;quot; ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:&lt;br /&gt;
*unique, ruin only monsters&lt;br /&gt;
*special items found only in ruins&lt;br /&gt;
*if quests are implemented, a quest location&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character &amp;quot;Richard Rose&amp;quot; and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several &amp;quot;interesting&amp;quot; components for ruins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors&amp;quot; (gain 1 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away.&amp;quot; (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul&amp;quot; (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). &lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(tm)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
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Add the concept of wind to the game.  Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on.  For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex.  Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Levelling===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=balance change|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature?  There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions.  And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is a man-eating tiger&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one.  Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature.  Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be &amp;quot;King Kong&amp;quot; at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &amp;amp;mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that &amp;quot;an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses&amp;quot; has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type=Plugin|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hide Skills===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=Technical|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Everyone|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a &amp;quot;Hide Skills&amp;quot; button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from &amp;quot;hiding your list of skills&amp;quot;... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a &amp;quot;Disguise&amp;quot; skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if  Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wiki Button===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type=New Button|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).&lt;br /&gt;
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|&lt;br /&gt;
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* There should be a button labelled &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think &amp;quot;what's a wiki?&amp;quot; and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be &amp;quot;Help&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Wiki,&amp;quot; I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Jungle Regrowth===&lt;br /&gt;
{{suggestion|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_type= Alteration|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of &amp;quot;seeding&amp;quot; each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of &amp;quot;growing&amp;quot; into the density level 1 above its current.&lt;br /&gt;
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a &amp;quot;coding requirment&amp;quot; that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) |       &lt;br /&gt;
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===Animal Meat===&lt;br /&gt;
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suggest_type= Alteration|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|&lt;br /&gt;
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says&amp;quot;there is a corpse of a large stag&amp;quot; that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Colonial police</title>
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clan_name=Colonial Police|&lt;br /&gt;
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clan_abbrev=CP|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=MickR and Arwedda|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=&amp;lt;10|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=Keeping the peace.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=Simply talk to us at the CPHQ or place your profile under the &amp;quot;List of Members&amp;quot; on this page.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=Arwedda and Mick, in York (-70.374,+26.313)|&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.shartak.com/clanview.cgi?id=16 The Colonial Police] are a group of outsiders devoted to keeping the peace, and punishing those who would take other's lives. Our primary mission is the execution of any person who has killed outsiders on the island. We are not currently offering any protection to the natives.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are currently looking for new members. As long as you know what we're about, you can join.&lt;br /&gt;
Just place your name ond profile under the 'List of Members' below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Report any murders to the officer on duty in the Colonial Police HQ, at GPS co-ordinates: (-70.374,+26.313)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If no-one on the list below is present, an officer should be returning to the CPHQ within the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Talk to us on our [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Leaders ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1588 Arwedda]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MickR|MickR]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Colonial Police|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CP&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Members ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2470 Kjendlie] &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2899 riddick]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1603 czech1] - PLEASE SET YOUR CLAN TO CP!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2135 Slavik] - PLEASE SET YOUR CLAN TO CP!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Criminals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Most Wanted ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently N/A.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Active ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1327 Tom Failur](Outsider) is wanted for the murders of many York citizens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1629 Lord Paul Reefer] (Outsider) is wanted for murdering an officer. '''-Connected to Stoertebecker!''' '''-Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''-Third Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly within the CPHQ. '''-Fourth Offence''' Murdered an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Fifth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''-Sixth Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Seventh Offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer inside the CPHQ! '''-Eighth Offence''' Murdered another officer in the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Tenth Offence''' Conspiracy to commit murder. '''-Eleventh Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''Twelth Offence!''' Murdered two more officers in the shallow waters of York.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1492 JB Aristide](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for murdering an officer. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''-Second offence!''' Attacked an officer. '''-Third offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered an innocent civilian. '''-Fifth offence!''' Attacked another officer! '''-Sixth offence!''' Repeatedly attacked an officer! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Seventh offence!''' Killed an officer. '''Eighth pffence!''' Murdered another officer! '''HIGH PRIORITY'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=318 Snake Tongue](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1553 Stoertebecker] (Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Second offence!''' Repeatedly attacked another officer. '''-Third offence!''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifth offence!''' Killed another officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=582 Barbecue](Native) is wanted for murdering an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A warning to [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=539 Schmeckel](Outsider) for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=772 Dave C](Native) and [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=754 Xiombarg](Native) are wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1522 Barbarossa](Outsider) is wanted by the Colonial Police for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2189 DKR](outsider) for mudering an innocent native from Raktam.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Suspected ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently N/A.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Executed ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2418 Firebabe871] (Outsider) is wanted for repeatedly attacking a CP officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2091 zybe](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for repeatedly attacking an officer inside the Colonial Police HQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1879 Phutnanog](Native) wanted for multiple murders of officers and civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1828 Mal] (Native) is wanted for the murder of a citizen. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2364 Dekuyper](Outsider) is wanted for killing innocent civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== News ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== June 2nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The CP are looking into entering negotiations with the Mercenary's Guild.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 31st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Colonial_Police/index.php? forum] is now open.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 28th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To whoever posted their profile up on the wiki, the link didn't work so I deleted it, please try again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 27th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police are now an officially recognised clan. MickR and Arwedda are currently returning to HQ.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 23rd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither Arwedda or MickR have enough XP to set up the clan today, but we're hoping to A.S.A.P. We're going hunting for a short time so that we can get 'Clan Leadership' we shall return to York soon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 22nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a long and painful trip we finally got him, JB Aristide is down! For the first time in the history of the Colonial Police, the 'Most Wanted' list is empty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 21st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We finally found him! Lord Paul Reefer has been brought to justice. His last know location was at [-70.383,+26.304].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 14th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Membership Drive.''' Currently accepting any and every application to join the CPHQ, except those made by convicts. This drive is in response to the rampant crime that has overtaken the peoples of York. Your town needs '''you''' to help keep the peace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some debate as to whether or not W B Hazen was guilty for killing BlackJack inside the CPHQ. Arwedda acted by instinct. W B Hazen... if, in fact, you were not guilty, the Colonial Police apologise for any inconvenience they may have caused.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 11th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After further investigation by Mick, it seems that natives belonging to a dangerous group called The [[Raktamites]] are camping out in various huts around York. If you have the time, check any huts near-by and make sure there are no dangerous natives inside. Do not attack them unless you are SURE they are PKers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 9th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Phutnanog was finally brought to justice today. Hopefully he has now learnt that murders in York will always be avenged.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 7th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The crime-rate in York is currently at an all time high. The CP is doing all they can to stop the murders.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 3rd, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two new members joined the Colonial Police today.&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to [[Slavik]] and [[czech1]]. Together we can help protect the citizens of York, and eventually reduce crime in York on a massive scale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 29th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It seems that a clan of Natives lead by Phutnanog, known as the '[[Raktamites]]' has been on a killing spree in York.&lt;br /&gt;
If you have any information that would give us a lead towards the capture of Phutnanog and the other murderous members of his group please contact Mick or Arwedda at the Colonial Police HQ in York (-70.374,+26.313).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 25th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clan established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]] [[Category:Officially recognized clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Colonial_police&amp;diff=6154</id>
		<title>Colonial police</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Colonial_police&amp;diff=6154"/>
		<updated>2006-05-28T23:30:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Riddick: /* Pending */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Clanbox|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_name=Colonial Police|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_image=[[Image:CPLogo.jpg]]|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_abbrev=CP|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_leaders=MickR and Arwedda|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_membership=&amp;lt;10|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_goals=Keeping the peace.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_recruit=Simply talk to us at the CPHQ or place your profile under the &amp;quot;List of Members&amp;quot; on this page.|&lt;br /&gt;
clan_contact=Arwedda and Mick, in York (-70.374,+26.313)|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/clanview.cgi?id=16 The Colonial Police] are a group of outsiders devoted to keeping the peace, and punishing those who would take other's lives. Our primary mission is the execution of any person who has killed outsiders on the island. We are not currently offering any protection to the natives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are currently looking for new members. As long as you know what we're about, you can join.&lt;br /&gt;
Just place your name ond profile under the 'List of Members' below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Report any murders to the officer on duty in the Colonial Police HQ, at GPS co-ordinates: (-70.374,+26.313)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If no-one on the list below is present, an officer should be returning to the CPHQ within the day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Leaders ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1588 Arwedda]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MickR|MickR]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Colonial Police|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CP&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Official ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2470 Kjendlie] &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Pending ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1603 czech1]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2135 Slavik]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2899 riddick]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1228 bizerker]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2899 riddick]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== List of Criminals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Most Wanted ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1629 Lord Paul Reefer] (Outsider) is wanted for murdering an officer. '''-Connected to Stoertebecker!''' '''-Second Offence''' Killed another officer! '''-Third Offence''' Attacked an officer repeatedly within the CPHQ. '''-Fourth Offence''' Murdered an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Fifth Offence''' Murdered another officer! '''-Sixth Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ! '''-Seventh Offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer inside the CPHQ! '''-Eighth Offence''' Murdered another officer in the CPHQ! '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-EXECUTED!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Ninth offence''' Repeatedly attacked an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Tenth Offence''' Conspiracy to commit murder. '''-Eleventh Offence''' Killed an officer in the CPHQ. '''HIGH PRIORITY!'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Active ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2364 Dekuyper](Outsider) is wanted for killing an innocent civilian.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1828 Mal] (Native) is wanted for the murder of a citizen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=318 Snake Tongue](Native) is wanted for the murder of an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1553 Stoertebecker] (Outsider) is wanted for the murder of an officer within the CPHQ. '''-Second offence!''' Repeatedly attacked another officer. '''-Third offence!''' Killed an innocent civilian. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered two officers inside the CPHQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed again'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Fifth offence!''' Killed another officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=582 Barbecue](Native) is wanted for murdering an officer!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A warning to [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=539 Schmeckel](Outsider) for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=772 Dave C](Native) and [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=754 Xiombarg](Native) are wanted for repeatedly attacking an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1522 Barbarossa](Outsider) is wanted by the Colonial Police for the murder of an officer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Suspected ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tom Failur&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; is wanted for questioning on charges of 18 murders.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Executed ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2418 Firebabe871] (Outsider) is wanted for repeatedly attacking a CP officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2091 zybe](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for repeatedly attacking an officer inside the Colonial Police HQ. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1879 Phutnanog](Native) wanted for multiple murders of officers and civilians. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt; '''-Second Offence''' Attacked another officer. '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Brought to justice'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1492 JB Aristide](Native) is wanted by the Colonial Police for murdering an officer. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''-Second offence!''' Attacked an officer. '''-Third offence!''' Murdered another officer! '''-Fourth offence!''' Murdered an innocent civilian. '''-Fifth offence!''' Attacked another officer! '''-Sixth offence!''' Repeatedly attacked an officer! '''HIGH PRIORITY''' '''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;-Executed!'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== News ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 28th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone has any information on 'Tom Failur', please contact MickR or Arwedda at the Colonial Police HQ in York (-70.374,+26.313). To whoever posted their profile up on the wiki, the link didn't work so I deleted it, please try again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 27th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Colonial Police are now an officially recognised clan. MickR and Arwedda are currently returning to HQ.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 23rd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither Arwedda or MickR have enough XP to set up the clan today, but we're hoping to A.S.A.P. We're going hunting for a short time so that we can get 'Clan Leadership' we shall return to York soon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 22nd, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a long and painful trip we finally got him, JB Aristide is down! For the first time in the history of the Colonial Police, the 'Most Wanted' list is empty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 21st, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We finally found him! Lord Paul Reefer has been brought to justice. His last know location was at [-70.383,+26.304].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 14th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Membership Drive.''' Currently accepting any and every application to join the CPHQ, except those made by convicts. This drive is in response to the rampant crime that has overtaken the peoples of York. Your town needs '''you''' to help keep the peace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== May 12th, 2006 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some debate as to whether or not W B Hazen was guilty for killing BlackJack inside the CPHQ. Arwedda acted by instinct. W B Hazen... if, in fact, you were not guilty, the Colonial Police apologise for any inconvenience they may have caused.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 11th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After further investigation by Mick, it seems that natives belonging to a dangerous group called The [[Raktamites]] are camping out in various huts around York. If you have the time, check any huts near-by and make sure there are no dangerous natives inside. Do not attack them unless you are SURE they are PKers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 9th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Phutnanog was finally brought to justice today. Hopefully he has now learnt that murders in York will always be avenged.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 7th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The crime-rate in York is currently at an all time high. The CP is doing all they can to stop the murders.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===May 3rd, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two new members joined the Colonial Police today.&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to [[Slavik]] and [[czech1]]. Together we can help protect the citizens of York, and eventually reduce crime in York on a massive scale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 29th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It seems that a clan of Natives lead by Phutnanog, known as the '[[Raktamites]]' has been on a killing spree in York.&lt;br /&gt;
If you have any information that would give us a lead towards the capture of Phutnanog and the other murderous members of his group please contact Mick or Arwedda at the Colonial Police HQ in York (-70.374,+26.313).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===April 25th, 2006===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Clan established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for outsiders]] [[Category:Officially recognized clans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Riddick</name></author>
		
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