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<div>This User has two characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no misgivings with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery...<br />
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Group: [[The South Shartak Trading Company]]<br />
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{{IdentifyFriendOrFoe}}</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Tips_and_tricks&diff=7649Tips and tricks2006-06-20T12:01:54Z<p>Kripcat: added more advice</p>
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<div>These '''tips and tricks''' will help you get the most out of your life on the island once you're familiar with the [[user interface]] and [[gameplay]].<br />
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== Getting started ==<br />
Welcome to Shartak. Perhaps you're wondering how you should spend your first day. You can begin by visiting one of the [[hut|resource buildings]] in your [[camp]]. Depending on how you like to play, you may seek out the medical supplies or the weapons and ammunition. Once you feel that you are well-equipped, you can begin your adventure.<br />
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Move through the jungle and hunt for [[animals]] or even other players. While attacking members of the same side is generally not appreciated, there is nothing necessarily wrong with doing so. Just don't be surprised when your victims treat you the same way in return!<br />
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Try to reach one of the friendly or hostile camps. Explore some of the natural landmarks. Deforest the landscape. Spend some time haunting the island as a spirit. You might be interested in joining a [[clan]] that has similar goals to your own.<br />
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Have fun.<br />
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== Beginner's guide to skills and advancement ==<br />
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As you become more skilled at combat or healing or spirit-wails, you become more effective with your action points ([[AP]]). In turn, this enables you to gain experience points ([[XP]]) and earn [[skills]] more quickly. Since each skill requires progressively more XP to learn than the previous ones, characters who sidetrack themselves early on by choosing weak and/or non-reinforcing skills will have difficulty advancing throughout their entire career. In contrast, quickly learning the XP-returning skills in your favored career path gives you some guarantee of steady advancement. <br />
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The fastest methods of gaining experience are (in roughly descending order of popularity):<br />
# Combat<br />
# Healing<br />
# Haunting<br />
# Exploration<br />
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=== Combat skills ===<br />
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The most straightforward way to gain experience points is to attack and kill animals and other players, so it is sensible to invest first in the three melee combat skills (''body building'', ''close quarter combat'', and ''advanced close quarter combat'', in that order) before you buy others. <br />
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=== Healing skills ===<br />
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Healing is a rapid method of earning experience points, so many players learn ''first aid'' or ''natural medicine'' quite early so that first aid kits or healing herbs can heal more HP (and thus give more XP) when they're used. ''Triage'' is a necessary prerequisite skill, and it enables you to maximize your XP gains by healing the most heavily wounded targets. <br />
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=== Haunting skills (wailers) ===<br />
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Some players have ignored the combat tree and moved directly up the haunting tree toward ''banshee wail'', since wailing is potentially the fastest way to gain experience in the game. However, the early stages of haunting yield low XP returns and the entire tree has received some well-deserved power reductions (to about 1.25 XP-per-AP with ideal banshee wails). New players might find this long experience path to be arduous (and boring, since almost no interaction with other characters is possible). <br />
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=== Exploration skills ===<br />
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Whether you are a fighter, a healer, or an explorer, ''trekking'' is always an important skill, since it reduces many of your movement costs by half. This leaves you more AP for other things, which in turn results in more XP per AP. You do have to buy ''exploration'' as a prerequisite to ''trekking'', but that will give you a nice map and keep you from being lost (thanks to the [http://mattandchristy.net/sharmap/ Shartak Map Overlay]). Since recovery from [[death]] requires a considerable number of AP, ''stamina'' is also a useful skill, since it lets you have more HP and thus makes you harder to kill. ''Stamina'' is particularly crucial for characters who travel far from home into hostile territory. <br />
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=== Other important skills ===<br />
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Settlers and villagers should probably buy ''scavenging'', since this is believed to reduce the AP spent searching by as much as one-third. <br />
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Soldiers might consider buying ''firearms training'' and ''advanced firearms training'', since the rifle has advantages over a machete that offset the opportunity cost of searching for bullets (see [[Talk:Tips_and_tricks|the talk page]]).<br />
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Similarly, warriors should consider ''blowpipe training'' and ''advanced blowpipe training''. The blowpipe yields an average of 2.4 XP per AP ignoring reload time and ammo acquisition. (Reload time reduces this to 1.2 XP per AP, and including ammo search undoubtedly reduces the gain to less than 0.8 XP per AP. For comparison, a machete yields 1.35 XP per AP when used by a player with all three melee skills.) Warriors should keep their blowpipes loaded so that they can spend less time reloading in combat. <br />
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Keep in mind that darts deal delayed damage from poison. (The effects of poison are felt gradually as the target character acts.) When looking at damage throughput rather than experience gains, the warrior's blowpipe is very potent. Because of poison damage, blowpipes inflict roughly 5 HP per combat-AP -- more powerful than the heavy sword. When ammo & reload costs are included, damages is roughly 1.6 HP damage per AP. <br />
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After your first several skills your XP-gathering ability will be great enough that the rest of the skills can be bought at your leisure and in any order.<br />
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== Beginner's guide to animal combat ==<br />
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Most [[animals]] on the island are fairly benign if left alone. However, if you attack them and run out of AP before killing them, don't be surprised if they retaliate while you are gone, even if you've moved a few squares away. If you don't think you'll be able to kill an animal, leave yourself enough AP to put some distance between it and you. Certain animals (such as elephants, tigers, and alligators) should be treated with caution, because they can easily kill an unwary sleeper. <br />
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Now that animals attack reactively during combat, you should expect to take damage while hunting big game. Not only do you need to carry more first aid kits (or other consumables), remember that this also reduces your damage throughput in 72 AP -- some of your time has to be spent healing yourself. As long as you are carrying enough healing items, this is an opportunity for you to gain experience through healing yourself as well as attacking. <br />
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It is no longer wise for self-healers to sleep next to an animal in the hopes of being hurt -- it is probably more efficient and it is certainly much safer to use poisonberries or sharkbites to self-inflict damage. Players with combat skills are better off attacking the animal directly, and siphoning self-healing from the animal's reactive attacks. <br />
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== Beginner's guide to self-poisoning ==<br />
A very slow but steady way to gain experience is to load up with poisonous berries and healing items (from a medical hut or a fruit tree). Searches at a tree or bush have about a 50% chance of success (see [[Locations#Trees and bushes]]), so if we do the math:<br />
150 AP = 50 poison bush searches + 25 munchings (-50 HP)<br />
+ 50 tasty bush searches + 25 munchings (+50 HP) = 100 XP<br />
That's 2/3 XP per AP, which is huge compared to chopping jungle (perhaps 1/6 at best). But killing animals and people is still a faster way of gaining experience.<br />
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Note that it's more efficient to search medical huts for healing items than to search fruit trees, and you can [[Trading|trade]] the non-healing items you find for poison berries and healing items. This is presumably the reason that poison berries are usually sold out at the trading huts.<br />
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== General Gameplay Advice ==<br />
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Spending the night in an opposing class' camp is not wise, though the majority of the population is usually not immediately hostile to the opposite class there is almost always someone amongst a group who is. <br />
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People can view a statistical, personal history via your profile, as such if you have killed members of your own or the opposing class, don't expect the relevant group to be hospitable.<br />
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Be cautious about going to sleep with low hit points, even in your own camp ghosts may frequent and and finish you off in your sleep. <br />
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Take advantage of the forum and wiki to find out about pre-announced conflicts and raids.<br />
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== Efficient exploration ==<br />
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=== Maximizing mapped squares per AP ===<br />
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[http://www.blackant.net/other/shartak/movements.php Here's a little animation] of getting the most mapped squares for your AP, starting from an ideal position in the corner of 4 map-squares and moving in an overall straight line. This does not take into account chopping jungle and other obstacles. A similar technique can be used to turn corners as well, or even start off in a spiral pattern instead of linear. If there's a more efficient pattern, let us know!<br />
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For no loss in vertical efficiency, you can "widen" the column of the search above. Instead of mapping a 3-square-wide rectangle north to south, you'll be mapping a two column wide rectangle north to south with two-square "teeth" on each side. See the following diagrams.<br />
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Walking pattern<br />
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Mapped Squares pattern (after 39 moves)<br />
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== Profiles ==<br />
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=== Profile descriptions with blank lines ===<br />
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To add a completely blank line in your description, simply press enter once, type a single space, and press enter again. The space in the middle prevents the double enter from being shrunk to a single &lt;br&gt; tag.<br />
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=== Images for profiles ===<br />
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I'm not all that good with graphics, so I used the [http://www.planearium2.de/flash/spstudio.html South Park Studio] to make a simple picture to go on my profile. It lacks a 'Save' function so you have to take a screenshot and crop the image to suit.<br />
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When you enter the url of an image, make sure the picture isn't too wide as it looks rather squashed on the page unless you're using a rather high resolution monitor.<br />
* South Park characters feel out of place in Shartak ,I used [http://www.ugo.com/channels/comics/heroMachine2/heromachine2.asp Hero Machine] for my awsome character.(some people suggest [http://www.tektek.org/dream/ Gaia Character Creator], but personally I hate it) -Grigoriy<br />
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=== Using multiple characters easily ===<br />
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If you wish to play with a couple of characters it can be annoying having to keep logging out and back in as the other one. To simplify things, you could create a small html file on your computer containing something like this:<br />
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:<form action="http://www.shartak.com/index.cgi" method="POST"><br />
:<input type="submit" name="username" value="NameHere"><br />
:<input type="hidden" name="password" value="Password"><br />
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Repeat the block for each character you have, remembering to change the value="" parts to the appropriate values. Bookmark this html file (use Open File from the browser to get the file:// url) and to login, simply click the button for the character you want to use.</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Miscellaneous&diff=6905Suggestions:Miscellaneous2006-06-09T08:49:54Z<p>Kripcat: responded</p>
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<div>{{:Suggestions/Header|page_type=Other}}<br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
::Tunnels underneath the island '''lead to interesting places.''' --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:43, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
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suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|<br />
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** "Wiki", for Simon's reason. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:46, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Jungle Regrowth===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|<br />
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:<br />
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of "seeding" each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.<br />
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of "growing" into the density level 1 above its current.<br />
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.<br />
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a "coding requirment" that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) | <br />
suggest_time=08:18, 6 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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If I understand your comment correctly, you're bothered by the light green d1 Jungles that pop up inside settlements. It is possible that the game already uses a non-random algorithm to grow jungle; in any case, jungle does not appear to grow instantly two or more levels, so the cleanup is ongoing but minor. The crux of your suggestion could be achieved by modifying the current grow system so that d1 did not grow in a fully d0 zone. For example, the game checks a d0-d1 to make sure that there is adjacent d1+ jungle; if not, the game heads out in a random direction (or towards the center of shartak) to the last available d0 square before jungle, and grows that location d0-d1 instead. This would result in the same overall growth speed, but d0-d1 changes would occur on the boundaries rather than the interior of a paved area. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:55, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*Yes that probably work better with less coding work, but do you have an opinion on such a change? [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:36, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
* There is a simple algorithm for determining growth of jungle, but it's not as clever as this, it's all to do with growth rate of the square and how often people chop it back. There is also a limit of about 10% of the island that can grow in any given day but it's not hitting the limit at the moment. Having to look at the surrounding squares would also involve having to write the growth as a script rather than a couple of lines of SQL so I'm not overly keen on this even though it would make a bit of sense. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:32, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*If it requires a large amount of coding work I wouldn't worry about it, theres a lot of more imporant suggestions than this one about, I just thought it may have been something you overlooked when creating the regrowth system and could perhaps be easily fixed. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 09:49, 9 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Meat===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|<br />
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says"there is a corpse of a large stag" that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].|<br />
suggest_time=04:52, 8 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Riddick|Riddick]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There is an existing [[Suggestions:Items#Meat|meat suggestion]]. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 06:32, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
::Tunnels underneath the island '''lead to interesting places.''' --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:43, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|<br />
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** "Wiki", for Simon's reason. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:46, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Jungle Regrowth===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|<br />
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:<br />
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of "seeding" each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.<br />
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of "growing" into the density level 1 above its current.<br />
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.<br />
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a "coding requirment" that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) | <br />
suggest_time=08:18, 6 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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If I understand your comment correctly, you're bothered by the light green d1 Jungles that pop up inside settlements. It is possible that the game already uses a non-random algorithm to grow jungle; in any case, jungle does not appear to grow instantly two or more levels, so the cleanup is ongoing but minor. The crux of your suggestion could be achieved by modifying the current grow system so that d1 did not grow in a fully d0 zone. For example, the game checks a d0-d1 to make sure that there is adjacent d1+ jungle; if not, the game heads out in a random direction (or towards the center of shartak) to the last available d0 square before jungle, and grows that location d0-d1 instead. This would result in the same overall growth speed, but d0-d1 changes would occur on the boundaries rather than the interior of a paved area. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:55, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*Yes that probably work better with less coding work, but do you have an opinion on such a change? [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:36, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Meat===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|<br />
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says"there is a corpse of a large stag" that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].|<br />
suggest_time=04:52, 8 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Riddick|Riddick]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There is an existing [[Suggestions:Items#Meat|meat suggestion]]. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 06:32, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
::Tunnels underneath the island '''lead to interesting places.''' --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:43, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
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suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* ''Comment removed'' --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
***That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
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suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|<br />
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** "Wiki", for Simon's reason. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:46, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Jungle Regrowth===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|<br />
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:<br />
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of "seeding" each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.<br />
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of "growing" into the density level 1 above its current.<br />
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.<br />
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a "coding requirment" that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) | <br />
suggest_time=08:18, 6 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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If I understand your comment correctly, you're bothered by the light green d1 Jungles that pop up inside settlements. It is possible that the game already uses a non-random algorithm to grow jungle; in any case, jungle does not appear to grow instantly two or more levels, so the cleanup is ongoing but minor. The crux of your suggestion could be achieved by modifying the current grow system so that d1 did not grow in a fully d0 zone. For example, the game checks a d0-d1 to make sure that there is adjacent d1+ jungle; if not, the game heads out in a random direction (or towards the center of shartak) to the last available d0 square before jungle, and grows that location d0-d1 instead. This would result in the same overall growth speed, but d0-d1 changes would occur on the boundaries rather than the interior of a paved area. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 06:55, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
Yes that probably work better with less coding work, but do you have an opinion on such a change? [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:36, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Meat===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= get meat from dead animals|<br />
suggest_description= well it's simple you kill and animal and you can get it's meat from the corpse!or.... and also eventually the animal on the floor will run out of meat and as it says"there is a corpse of a large stag" that will not be there when it runs out of meat....[meat restores 2 HP].|<br />
suggest_time=04:52, 8 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Riddick|Riddick]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There is an existing [[Suggestions:Items#Meat|meat suggestion]]. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 06:32, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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}}</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Miscellaneous&diff=6762Suggestions:Miscellaneous2006-06-06T07:24:25Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* <del>Just a note that a hide skill was previously suggested [[Suggestions:Skills#Jungle_Skills|here]], which might provide a few points that may be relevant to this current suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:17, 1 June 2006 (BST)</del><br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** Argh, I completely misread this. There was some buzz on the forum about hiding and I skimmed this and assumed that it was related. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:05, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
**** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
****That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Jungle Regrowth===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|<br />
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:<br />
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of "seeding" each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.<br />
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of "growing" into the density level 1 above its current.<br />
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.<br />
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'''Edit''': On second thought it may just be easier to create a "coding requirment" that new Jungle Terrain appear within 3 squares of an already positioned Jungle Square. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:24, 6 June 2006 (BST) | <br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* <del>Just a note that a hide skill was previously suggested [[Suggestions:Skills#Jungle_Skills|here]], which might provide a few points that may be relevant to this current suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:17, 1 June 2006 (BST)</del><br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** Argh, I completely misread this. There was some buzz on the forum about hiding and I skimmed this and assumed that it was related. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:05, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
**** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
****That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|<br />
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Jungle Regrowth===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type= Alteration|<br />
suggest_scope= The regrowth of the Jungle Terrain type|<br />
suggest_description= As I understand the growth of the Jungle terrain is currently random. At any time a square of jungle can grow anywhere on the map, except for Water and Beach terrain, and when it happens to grow on a square which already contains Jungle it increases the density of that jungle by one. Now to me, this appears to conflict with one of the driving emotions of Shartak, the battle between civilisation and 'the wilds'. At the moment a player can spend a week's AP expanding the settlement's borders only to find that jungle has randomly cropped up in the middle of the settlement. This is highly demoralising and also leads to strange patches of jungle in the middle of no where. I prepose that new Jungle Terrain is formed in the following manner:<br />
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*Whenever a square of Jungle with a density above D2 or above is touching a square of D0 terrain it has a 1% chance every hour of "seeding" each D0 square with Jungle. By seeding I mean, the D0 square would become Jungle terrain with a density half that of the square that seeded it.<br />
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*Each square of Jungle (with the exception of D10) has a 7.5% chance of "growing" into the density level 1 above its current.<br />
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This would mean that roads would be harder to maintain, as they would have to be recut every 4 days or so, but settlements would be easier to maintain and expand as a dedicated weeder or two could slowly push back the borders of the settlement. I know nothing of coding so it may be a coding nightmare and the numbers may need to be tweaked, but I feel that this makes the Jungle more the second enemy that it is in all those Jungle Warfare fiction novels rather than an annoying and unrealistic random occurrence.| <br />
suggest_time=08:18, 6 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* <del>Just a note that a hide skill was previously suggested [[Suggestions:Skills#Jungle_Skills|here]], which might provide a few points that may be relevant to this current suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 21:17, 1 June 2006 (BST)</del><br />
** Well, hiding (as a skill) seems different from "hiding your list of skills"... although perhaps that would be a way to boost characters with Sixth Sense, who know how good a shot you are simply by looking at you. I like the effects of having fully revealed skills. Realistically, your home town should hardly be public knowledge, nor the date of your last demise, nor your killer, and so on. Perhaps a "Disguise" skill would give you access to a button that shields your character info (such as level) while you sleep (at a small AP cost). --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 21:51, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
*** Argh, I completely misread this. There was some buzz on the forum about hiding and I skimmed this and assumed that it was related. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:05, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
**** It makes sense. No more can I look at the victim's skills t osee how well they'll be able to track me if Ifail to kill them. ;) --[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 23:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)<br />
****That is another bonus to be sure, might add a little ''tang'' to your game. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 07:28, 6 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wiki Button===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=New Button|<br />
suggest_scope=Wikiphiles, players in general|<br />
suggest_description=So, uh... I don't know why but there's no button leading directly from the game ot the wiki. I just kind of noticed that difference between Shartak and UD. Kinda silly, no? I mean, as far as I can tell, the only place that a URL is given is on the FAQ (which I'm sure many don't read).<br />
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... Ok, yeah. I'm not really bothered that players need to read the FAQ to find the wiki. It'd be neat if there was a button on the game interface, though, like there is for News and Statistics.|<br />
suggest_time=23:01, 2 June 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Wifey|Wifey]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* There should be a button labelled "Help" on at least the main pages. This points to the wiki. It used to say Wiki but I figured people might not know what it was.. perhaps I should change it back so that people think "what's a wiki?" and click it.. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 23:52, 2 June 2006 (BST)<br />
** Oh. Well ''that's'' silly of me. Ok then. Your call, entirely. I'll leave this here so that people can give an opinion on whether it should be "Help" or "Wiki," I suppose.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 00:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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}}</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Suggestions:Miscellaneous&diff=6321Suggestions:Miscellaneous2006-05-31T07:19:59Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
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suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them?|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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== Other ==<br />
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=== Tunnels ===<br />
Tunnels underneath the island lead to interesting places.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:How do you know they don't exist? :) [[User:Dr._J|Dr. J]]<br />
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=== Treasure to capture ===<br />
"Capture the flag" type objective, in this case the flags are treasure from each village. Bonus points in the form of XP or gold coins to be awarded to the holder of the treasure at certain intervals.<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I would like to modify this slightly Mystery Suggester. Please see the '''[[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#Unique_Item_Hunt|Unique Item Hunt]]''' suggestion. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 08:40, 5 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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=== Player VS Player Interaction ===<br />
I would propoese a to hit % penalty for attacking members of same Home location. I believe this will promote exploration and perhaps offer a measure of protection of newly "birthed" population. As a recent victim of death by the hands of a warrior from my own villiage this has a bit of appeal to me ;). - [[User:Nankilstlas|Nan]]<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:Instead of a hit % penalty, what about reducing or eliminating XP earned for such attacks? It would be similar to the ZvZ penalty used in UrbanDead, and its easier to rationalize not getting as much experience fighting one of your own than to rationalize that its harder to hit your own people for some reason. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 19:52, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:The to hit penalty and the lack of XP should be combined to discourage intravillage conflicts but only on nonclan members(so clans from the same village can fight with each other to simulate a power struggle for leadership), extend this to shamans as well, as its not often the village shaman gets killed by an out-of-towner. --[[User:Daylan|Daylan]] 00:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:I don't like this idea--especially with the inclusion of pirates in the game. It makes sense for pirates to trun on each other now and then, or to turn to pillaging from one of the outsider towns. All of a sudden, for our good RPing we get a reduced chance to hit and no XP?--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 07:30, 29 March 2006 (BST)<br />
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:I have suggested a full non player vs player implementation at [[Suggestions:Game_Mechanics#PvP_Protection]]. --[[User:Iamtas|Iamtas]] 10:10, 13 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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=== Spirit Movement ===<br />
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A couple thoughts on this topic.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 02:29, 6 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*My character has the "trekking" skill, but as a spirit, actually moves '''slower''' (1 AP per square) than when he's alive! Spirits should move '''at least''' as fast as someone skilled at traversing terrain.<br />
::Perhaps spirits have less impetus than live characters --[[User:Dr. J|Dr. J]] 18:55, 7 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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*Spirits move effortlessly through the thickest jungle, water, swamp--as it should be. Why should mountains be an impediment?<br />
:Perhaps there's some kind of mineral in the mountain that prevents the spirit from passing through it.. could be mined later on to spirit-proof huts or something (clutching at straws here, can you tell) ?<br />
:They also can't move through the deepest water, but that is the boundary of the game I'm guessing.<br />
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So what's the suggestion here? Perhaps this belongs in the Talk page instead? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Player Titles===<br />
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To supplement the explored/killed statistics, give players rank titles based on percentiles. For example, if Jack is in the bottom 10% of explorers and the 30th percentile of hunters, his profile would show him as "Greenhorn Jack the Good Shot", if Sheila is in the top 10% killers and middle 50 explorer, she would be "The Adventurous Sheila, Grandmaster Hunter", and [[User:Murk|Murk]] would simply be "Demigod Murk". The titles would be determined once a day like the stats, only apply to active players, and only take active players into consideration when determining percentile. This will help statistics be more relevant to all players, as once time goes on and new players start, the top 100 may be quite a distant goal. --[[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 04:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
:I like it. It adds flavor to the game. I also agree that this system should be based on dynamic percentiles to allow for new players to compete with some of the more established ranking players. A static listing would be incredibly difficult for newcomers to break into. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Inventory Limit===<br />
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I think I would like to have an indication of how much of my inventory limit is being used up. :D --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 22:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* The inventory is somewhat flexible in size (+/- 2) so wouldn't be completely foolproof if represented as "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header, I could do something like a small bit of text just below the header like "You can carry lots more" "You can carry more things" "You can't carry much more" "You might be able to carry a couple more things" "You can't carry anything else". The question is though, is it just you that wants this feature? If so, you might be able to do something clever with greasemonkey. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:02, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
* Ah. In that case, a greasemonkey script would be fine. I imagine it would require a little list of all the inventory item names and then a size value assigned to each. Then parse through the list and do simple addition and display the result. I might try my hand at it, but I don't promise anything. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:13, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**"is it just you that wants this feature?" Hmm, I assumed everyone would want this feature. Perhaps "your inventory is getting full" and "your inventory is full" would be sufficient warning, but inventory size info seems valuable. Also, the Trader won't give me a rifle for my bananas (you can't carry more) even though I'm giving away much more than I'm getting -- the trading mechanism appears to check for overload based on carrying both the given and received items. Perhaps a feature... but he's the guy who owns an entire hut, you'd think he'd be willing to carry both during the transaction rather than requiring me to shoulder the burden. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 09:10, 29 April 2006 (BST)<br />
***<Bump.> Also, why not "(x/y)" appended to the inventory header? If the game code can figure out whether or not the inventory is full, it seems that the player could be able to figure out the same info. Even a simple load indication "(x)" would work fine, if the worry is that total inventory capacity 70-74 depends on quirky variable info rather than being static based on class. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:36, 15 May 2006 (BST) Besides which, seems like most everyone has an inventory limit of 71 now. (2 for blowpipes or rifles, 0 for gold coins.) --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:31, 20 May 2006 (BST)<br />
*See the last list item at [[The_Shartak_Wiki:Community_Portal#Greasemonkey_scripts]]. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===In-game Rankings===<br />
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I was noticing recently that one of my characters seemed to have killed a lot of parrots lately. I realizing that such information is tracked on the game stats page, but not necessarily everyone looks at it, and I thought it might be fun to have something in-game to acknowledge the player who has killed the most creatures of each type. Maybe a line is added to the player's description page, or the color of their name is different, or a mysterious "crown of the fallen parrots" appears in their inventory--no real impact, just bragging rights. It should be easy enough to implement, and might add a little intrigue.--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 01:03, 16 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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''Comments''<br />
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=== Wiki: table CSS ===<br />
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It would be nice if there were a class set up in the wiki's CSS file so that we could make attractive tables (see my ugly, hackish one on [[Tips and tricks]]). I tried to edit [[WikiMedia:Common.css]] but it's edit-locked. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 16:14, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
* I don't know that WikiMedia:Common.css is the right thing to edit - That link takes me off to an external site! --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 18:09, 23 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
** What the heck! Ha, sorry. Now I can't find the page on either this wiki or the WikiMedia page. Weird. Well anyhow, it would be nice to have a useful table class. Thanks, Simon.<br />
*** What kind of table class? Do you mean something to give a particular title bar, and row colours? Similar to the one on the front page. Got an example of what you'd put in the css file? --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 11:58, 3 April 2006 (BST)<br />
**** Colors aren't too important, I was more concerned with borders. Something simple like:<br />
table.bordered, table.bordered td {<br />
border: 1px solid black;<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
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''Discussion of Pets has been moved to the existing [[Suggestions:Game Mechanics#Pet System|Pet System]] suggestion.''<br />
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===ruins===<br />
the ruins in the game are mostly for show, and that can be aggravating at times, as i would love to "explore" ruins more if there was something there. i am suggesting several things such as:<br />
*unique, ruin only monsters<br />
*special items found only in ruins<br />
*if quests are implemented, a quest location<br />
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this is a very vague suggestion, but i feel that alot of the ruins on the map are just too bland. i camped out at ruins with my character "Richard Rose" and i stayed there for a week (in real time) because there was nothing better to do. and nothing and i mean NOTHING passed by, no game, no fruit trees, no players. it was completely desolate, and i am just suggesting several "interesting" components for ruins.<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
*I have to agree that last I checked, the Ruins seemed like a total bust. Fifty searches yielded worse than the typical Jungle average. No events triggered, no creatures, no spirits, no variable flavor descriptions. <br />
:* "As the wind blows through the ruined arch, you hear the spirit voices of the ancestors" (gain 1 XP). <br />
:* "You find a bundle of parrot feathers tied to a leather strap. The spirit magic of this amulet has long since faded away." (junk item that could be implemented with magic/spirits later). <br />
:* "Ghosts of the ancient dead chill your soul" (lose 2 HP, gain 2 XP). <br />
:* "Sliding the heavy iron lid to one side, you discover [[The Conch|The Conch<sup>(tm)</sup>]]!"<br />
:...And so on. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 22:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Wind===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Game Element Addition|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=<br />
Add the concept of wind to the game. Could be either constant (always from the west) or random over time, possibly even dependant on the side of the island you're on. For now, including a changing wind speed (10mph to 30mph) may be overly complex. Wind can affect spirit movement, pigeon delivery times, fire movement, etc.|<br />
suggest_time=16:54, 14 April 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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* Working this out technically might be a bit much, but I would like to see similar environmental variables on the island. It would increase the variety in the game and provide a creative amount of unpredictability while not being outlandish. Perhaps there can be a similar effect for the water current and tide as well. I can't wait until there are hurricane-strength winds that whip around everyone unless they're safe inside the mountain tunnels. Mwahaha. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:08, 14 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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===Animal Levelling===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=balance change|<br />
suggest_scope=NPC Animals|<br />
suggest_description=Each time an animal kills a PC, the animal should have its stats increase: increased HP (possibly also reset to max), more damaging attacks, better chance of hitting, faster movements, possibly a more aggresive nature? There probably aren't that many animals out there that have actually killed more than one or two humans before being killed themselves, but this would increase that chance, leading to the natural formation of the mythical beasts that have been mentioned in other suggestions. And if it doesn't happen naturally, i'm sure it wouldn't be too long before animal cultists start sacrificing themselves to animals in order to create their gods.<br />
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Characters with the animal affinity skill should be able to identify stronger creatures:<br />
:"Also here is a man-eating tiger"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating alligator"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating elephant that is barreling towards you"<br />
:"Also here is an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses"<br />
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suggest_time=20:26, 13 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Frisco|Frisco]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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... That's a mite scary. I don't know how this would affect server load, but that would be my only complaint here.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:06, 14 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* Sounds neat. Will there be a leveling cap? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 01:45, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** Probably should be a cap, though a rather high one. Time limitations would prevent animals from growing too powerful before someone takes them out, but a dedicated group of cultists could go crazy creating an invicible creature. Or perhaps once an animal reaches a certain level, it gets named (a monkey might be "King Kong" at high enough stats), and this one creature per animal type can continue advancing while all others are capped at that level (can't have more than one King Kong running around). &mdash;unsigned by [[User:Frisco|Frisco]] 02:38, May 15, 2006 (BST)<br />
* Awesome. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44, Cultist of the Man-Eating Parrot]] 22:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
* So let me get this straight - if an animal kills a PC, they gain hp, and accuracy of their attack, and possibly damage as well. say hp + 2, accuracy + 10%, damage + 1, up to a certain level (accuracy can only go up to 100% of course). Easy enough so far. If they get killed, they reset to the normal hp/accuracy/damage and start afresh as a normal level animal? I must say, I quite like this idea. If this is correct, then there's no server load issue. --[[User:Simon|Simon]] 09:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
** This sounds very good. I recommend that you let each animal reach 100% accuracy and cap damage at ''base damage + 5'' (a 9x100% elephant would be plenty lethal enough, I think). PC deaths to animals are probably rare enough that you could be more generous with HP bonuses: increase an animal's current HP and max HP by ''base health / 3 + 1'' for each of its kills. You could cap max HP (after five increases?), but I wouldn't. An animal should be restored to base health if its HP bonus wouldn't get it there (so an elephant, with a 20+1 HP bonus, would go from 32 HP to 60 and have 81 max HP, or go from 42 to 63 and still have 81 max HP). In theory, after five kills you could see an elephant with 165 HP that dealt 9 damage at 100% accuracy, but only if it got those kills without being harmed at all. Such a beast would be incredibly intimidating, but also incredibly rare. &mdash; [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2006 (BST)<br />
:::What about new players? They go into the forest for the first time, log out, log in only to discover that "an extremely large man-eating parrot that is barreling towards you with claws the size of cutlasses" has killed them in two moves. Nobody naturally gets stronger by dying and this would only prevent low level characters from leveling up.--[[User:One of many doctors|One of many doctors]] 03:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
::::The idea is that there wouldn't be that many of these, because they'd be rather difficult to make even a ''little'' better, anyways.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 15:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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===UDTool type Firefox plugin===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Plugin|<br />
suggest_scope=All players with Firefox|<br />
suggest_description=I don't have any coding skills, but I'm sure many of you out there do. Currently there is no way to add people to a contact list, thus making it difficult to recoginse people. Could someone please develop a UDTool style plugin (like that seen in Urban Dead) that allows you to add player's names and assign them to groups with user defined colours? Basically just port the UDTool over to Shartak users, so when you're in a hut or square with others, you can see people you've encoutnered with a llittle bit of text to pop up at your cursor telling you why they're important to you (like the 'notes' feature in the UDTool).|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 27 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Rip Purr|Rip Purr]]|<br />
suggest_comments=<br />
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===Hide Skills===<br />
{{suggestion|<br />
suggest_type=Technical|<br />
suggest_scope=Everyone|<br />
suggest_description=I think it would be useful to be able to have a "Hide Skills" button which hides what skills you possess from those viewing your profile, I know many people wouldn't care but it would be useful for players whose skills don't fit with the way they roleplay. Besides who can tell how good a shot someone is simply by looking at them.|<br />
suggest_time=08:18, 31 May 2006 (BST)|<br />
suggest_author=[[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]]|<br />
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no misgivings with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery...<br />
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Group: [[The South Shartak Trading Company]]</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User:Kripcat&diff=5751User:Kripcat2006-05-26T08:36:59Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no misgivings with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery...<br />
Group: [[The South Shartak Trading Company]]</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Talk:Tips_and_tricks&diff=5749Talk:Tips and tricks2006-05-26T08:25:41Z<p>Kripcat: Advice</p>
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<div>No offense to whomever submitted it, but I really don't agree that the "Gaining more XP in dense jungle" tip is advisable. Perhaps in the past, when this was added, chopping plants consistantly provided XP, or didn't expend AP, but as it stands, its a very inefficient way of gaining XP. Anyone opposed to removing it? Would its author like to respond? --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 18:53, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:That was me.. at the time that I added it, there were lots of areas of dense jungle and not a lot of animals to be found. Things seem to have changed since then so feel free to remove it if you want. --[[User:Snarf|Snarf]] 22:04, 27 February 2006 (GMT)<br />
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== Luring animals ==<br />
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My native made the mistake of standing near an elephant a bit too long, and it started attacking him. I didn't have nearly enough AP to take it down, but I wasn't ready to let it off the hook, either, so I smacked it a few times, and moved a few sqares from it. Hours later, it had moved toward me, but not close enough to strike. I smacked at it some more, and moved away again, nearing a beach area. The elephant has walked right up to the edge of the beach, but doesn't seem willing to step onto it. I've been having some fun with it over the last several hours, smacking it, then jumping back onto the sand. Don't know if this is a bug, or if any other animals won't chase you onto the sand. I'll update later if I'm wrong, and if the elephant has gotten up the nerve to attack me on the sand. --[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 17:20, 3 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
:The poor elephant sat on the square where the jungle met the beach, but did not cross it to attack me, and I thus I easily slew it. I'm going to consider this a [[Bugs|bug]] until Simon confirms. If he intends certain animals to avoid the beach, I'll add it as a "Tip".--[[User:Jackel|Jackel]] 00:39, 4 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
::Simon has confirmed this as a bug, that he has fixed.<br />
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== Efficient mapping ==<br />
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Please, someone make my ugly ASCII art into images! I don't have a suitable image editor to make something pretty. Thanks. --[[User:Vtbassmatt|VTBassMatt]] 18:59, 22 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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== Advice ==<br />
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Do you think it would be appropriate to add a sort of general advice section to this page which outlines the general, for lack of a better word, "feel" of the game. What I mean is general attitudes such as the commonality of outsiders killing natives and visa versa. I'm new to Shartak and I know I'd appreciate knowing whether or not moving my native to a settlement will result in his immediate death or only occasional death by some git with a gun and a vendetta. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 09:25, 26 May 2006 (BST)</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Simon&diff=5748User talk:Simon2006-05-26T08:13:06Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>==Greetings==<br />
Hiya. >.> Sorry. I just saw that your discussion page looked lonely, and felt like making it not-so-lonely.--[[User:Wifey|Wifey]] 01:36, 15 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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Have search odds been tweaked? GPS units appear common as dirt in Medical Huts (after 700 searches without a GPS unit, that seems like a change to the code). Thanks! --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 20:43, 17 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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Do you still play Urban Dead? [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 09:13, 26 May 2006 (BST)</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User:Kripcat&diff=5747User:Kripcat2006-05-26T07:57:30Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no misgivings with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery...</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User:Kripcat&diff=5746User:Kripcat2006-05-26T07:56:37Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no misgivings with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery...<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2815 Krystal]<br />
===History===<br />
This woman came to Shartak at the age of 17 as the daughter of a settler. Now 22, after a fight with her father about her independence she ran away from her home and now wanders the island in search of fun.</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User:Kripcat&diff=5745User:Kripcat2006-05-26T07:55:29Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===History===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no qualms with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2815 Krystal]<br />
===History===<br />
This woman came to Shartak at the age of 17 as the daughter of a settler. Now 22, after a fight with her father about her independence she ran away from her home and now wanders the island in search of fun.</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=User:Kripcat&diff=5744User:Kripcat2006-05-26T07:52:47Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>This User has three characters:<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
===Histroy===<br />
This kid was among the first generation to be born on Shartak, his parents were both explorers and both were killed charting the northern portion of the island. He survives by completing minor errands and tasks for settlers, such as clearing the recently introduced roads.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain]<br />
===History===<br />
This native is the son of a native who acted as one of many guides to the very first explorers to set foot on Shartak. As such he holds no qualms with the Outsiders and in fact holds an unabashed respect for them. They say imitation is the sincerest from of flattery.<br />
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[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2815 Krystal]<br />
===History===</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Civilized_Highway_Society&diff=5743Civilized Highway Society2006-05-26T07:44:41Z<p>Kripcat: added my name</p>
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<div>{{Clanbox|<br />
clan_name=Civilized Highway Society|<br />
clan_image=[[Image:CHSlogo.png]]|<br />
clan_abbrev=CHS|<br />
clan_leaders=[[User:Vtbassmatt|Alexander Black of Durham]]|<br />
clan_membership=unknown|<br />
clan_goals=Build and maintain high-quality highways linking important Shartak sites|<br />
clan_recruit=Agree to our principles, start building highways in line with the standards here, and you're a member!|<br />
clan_contact=[[Talk:Civilized Highway Society|Talk page]]|<br />
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== The Need for Good Roads ==<br />
Too many poor souls enter this realm completely lost and bewildered. Whether they are newly-arrived Outsiders or youngling Natives, their common problem is an inability to get where they want to go. A few enterprising people have seen fit to begin constructing roads between major villages; often these are used as routes to direct others to sites of pillage and death.<br />
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If the isle of Shartak is ever to see the dawn of civilization, we must build and maintain high-quality roads linking all the major cultural and scenic sites. These roads must conform to a well-publicized standard so that new arrivals can easily use them. Missionaries, native shamans, hunters, explorers, and many others will benefit from clearly-demarcated paths through the wild.<br />
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== Our Mission ==<br />
This will be an arduous task. In the CHS's observations, one individual can clear a maximum of 3 squares per day while still killing animals to advance (while of course those who either don't desire material reward or have already maxed out their skills can devote all of a day's labor to clearing roads, averaging something more like 7-8 squares per day). Our mission, then, is three-fold:<br />
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# identify sites in need of quality transportation<br />
# build, maintain, and if possible patrol roads linking the identified sites<br />
# recruit new members to our cause<br />
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The above list should serve as a prioritized list of activities; it does no good to build roads willy-nilly if no one will use them, and if we are not building roads, what use are new recruits?<br />
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We must strive to maintain the highest quality of building standards; please see the section below marked [[#Road Standards|Road Standards]] for the current regulations.<br />
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Note well: we are committed to equal-opportunity access to both highway construction and use. Natives, Outsiders, and pirates are all equally welcome to join the clan, build roads, and travel freely (without threat of harm). In times of warfare, CHS members are encouraged not to take sides and to punish any acts of violence perpetrated along CHS-affiliated highways.<br />
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== Highway Network ==<br />
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[[Image:Highway-map.png]]<br />
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Highways are listed in the following format:<br />
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'''''Name or Identifier''''' (''primary direction of travel'') - ''general location of road''<br />
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=== Completed CHS Routes ===<br />
* '''Southern Coastal Boulevard''' (E-W, NW-SE) - leads due east out of Durham along the southwestern peninsula's coast, turning southeast at the base of the peninsula and then east again upon reaching York's line of latitude and continuing into York proper.<br />
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=== Non-CHS Highways Already Under Construction ===<br />
The following highways are currently under construction, although not necessarily by CHS affiliates. Therefore, our standards on neutrality may not apply. They are listed here because incorporating them into our design '''significantly''' decreases the amount of work we have to do.<br />
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* '''Dalpok-Shipwreck Highway''' (NW-SE) - northwestern island<br />
* '''York-Mountain Highway''' (N-S, NW-SE) - central island, west of the river<br />
* '''Raktam Southbound Highway''' (N-S) - headed south from Raktam, east of the river (peters out north of the coast)<br />
* '''Wiksik-Derby Highway''' (E-W, N-S) - heads east out of Wiksik; turns south near a sandy area and runs to Derby<br />
* '''York-Derby Jungle Trail''' (?) - scratched out of the land by a semi-unaffiliated individual; this one intentionally doesn't conform to CHS standards as it is an experiment in lower-maintenance-cost roads<br />
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=== Proposed Primary Routes ===<br />
These are roads which would immediately provide transportation benefits and should be built first.<br />
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* '''Mountain Loop Highway''' (roughly circular) - surrounds the central mountain, with Dalpok and Raktam located on its circumference.<br />
** Recommend building the southern half first, with the northern half to be considered a secondary or alternate route<br />
* '''Wiksik Artery''' (E-W) - exits Wiksik to the west and ends at the '''Mountain Loop Highway'''/'''Raktam Southbound Highway'''.<br />
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=== Proposed Secondary Routes ===<br />
These are roads which would provide secondary, scenic, or otherwise non-essential transportation capabilities. The above primary routes have priority over these.<br />
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* '''Shipwreck Shortcut''' (E-W) - extends west from the northern rim of the '''Mountain Loop Highway''' and terminates at the '''Dalpok-Shipwreck Highway'''<br />
* '''Dalpok-Durham Connector''' (NE-SW) - runs southwest out of Dalpok and terminates at '''Southern Coastal Boulevard'''<br />
* '''Derby Direct''' (E-W) - shortcut route between York and Derby, runs east from '''York-Mountain Highway''' to '''Wiksik-Derby Highway'''<br />
* '''Wiksik Spur''' (N-S) - connects '''Derby Direct''' to Wiksik (this way, the Society has a connection from Wiksik to Derby in the event that the [non-CHS] '''Wiksik-Derby Highway''' ceases to be viable)<br />
* '''Jack Spalding Highway''' (?-?) - exploration and mapping of the tunnel under the mountain; one mouth of the tunnel lies at [-70.368,+26.442] (not on the map above)<br />
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== Road Standards ==<br />
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=== Road Section ===<br />
A CHS highway is made up of individual road sections. A road section is an area of jungle cut back to the bare topsoil and connected to other road sections. To minimize the effect of plant regrowth, highways should be two paces wide (thanks [[User:Sling484|Sling]]). Some of the secondary and spur roads might not warrant such painstaking construction, but it is never inappropriate.<br />
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=== Directness of Highways ===<br />
A CHS highway should consist of a direct route between two points of interest, subject to variances where it would save a great deal of building and maintenance labor. Although mathematics tells us that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, it is unfeasible to expect to build straight-line roads around the landform features of the island and with such primitive equipment.<br />
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Therefore, roads should consist largely of north-south, east-west, and diagonal sections. Frequent turns or spurs should be avoided.<br />
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=== Signage ===<br />
It is often useful for travellers to have some sense of the distance to the next point of interest. The most reliable way to sign a road is to build a [[signpost]]. These should be built directly in the road; it requires two pieces of driftwood per sign.<br />
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Signs should be placed in the following locations:<br />
* At village boundaries, giving the distance to the closest 1-3 landmarks<br />
* At forks or spurs in the road, indicating the direction and distance to the single closest landmark<br />
* Every 50 paces at places where the last two digits of the GPS coordinate in the direction of travel is divisible by 50 (-70.200, -70.250, -70.300, etc.)<br />
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Signs should specify distances in units of ''paces''; these can be measured as a change in the thousanths digit of the GPS coordinate. Alternately, someone can simply travel the road, counting paces. These do not have to be exact; it can be difficult to determine where a particular feature or place begins.<br />
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If you cannot sign for the above, at least put a marker indicating the highway name.<br />
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=== Example Signage ===<br />
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You see a signpost that reads ''Sample Highway; Fakevillage 200E; Fakesettlement 360SW''<br />
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This sign lets you know you're walking on Sample Highway. It also indicates that ''Fakevillage'' lies 200 paces east and ''Fakesettlement'' lies 360 paces southwest. The direction should always indicate '''where to go from here'''; it may be the case that the road changes direction one or more times before reaching the endpoint.<br />
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== Membership ==<br />
Please feel free to add yourself to this list!<br />
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* [[User:Vtbassmatt|Alexander Black of Durham]]<br />
* [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1652 Lougbridge]<br />
* [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=984 Sling484]<br />
* [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1333 Boricua]<br />
* [http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2807 Kripcat]<br />
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[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans_for_both]]</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=The_South_Shartak_Trading_Company&diff=5541The South Shartak Trading Company2006-05-24T07:50:51Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>{{Clanbox|<br />
clan_name=The South Shartak Trading Company|<br />
clan_image=[[Image:sstc28hr.png]]|<br />
clan_abbrev=SSTC|<br />
clan_leaders=[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1561 Jack W Spalding]|<br />
clan_membership=4 so far|<br />
clan_goals=To provide items to villages and towns which are normally unavailable.|<br />
clan_recruit=Outsiders, natives and pirates welcome, but must adhere to our code of conduct.|<br />
clan_contact=[http://shartak.forumsplace.com/message47.html SSTC's Forum Topic]|<br />
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=Introduction=<br />
To the newly arrived and the longly settled alike: <br />
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You have come to this brave new world seeking your fortune, your adventure, or just your livelihood, and one can think of no braver undertaking than to conquor this uncharted wilderness. But with it comes the promise of fortunes great and exotic, as well as the need for items both mundane and essential. Where there is human civilization, there will always be trade, and to that, we aim to accomodate. <br />
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As of the day of March 28th of the 1906th year of our Lord and onward, The South Shartak Trading Company has been established in the hopes of opening communications and commerce lines to all known settlements on the Island of Shartak. We facilitate in the movement of supplies from community to community in hopes making our own fortune and bettering the lives of all those on the island. I am already trying to dangerous trek from Shipwreck Beach (the home of the pirates) via Derby, then York, for trade of their valuable rums and much sought after cutlasses. Someday I hope to establish other routes to and from Shipwreck Beach, and even create trading routes between the villages of the natives and the outsiders. <br />
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This enterprise is dangerous, but it does have alot of potential. Whom among you are brave enough to challenge the jungles and bring civilization forth? <br />
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Then contact The South Shartak Trading Company. You may even choose your own trade route to take (at your own risk of course). There are even no deadlines... make your own pace, but since you are in it for your profit as well as the company, it is hoped that your pace will be encouraged as such. And since we know well the dangers of the jungles, know that any nearby traders of The South Shartak Trading Company will be glad to assist. <br />
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Sign up to become a member, and go out there to strike out your fortune!<br />
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=Mission=<br />
Our mission is to send valuables from one village to the other, valuables that are normally inaccessible to the people therein. For the natives, that means our firearms, ammunition, alcohol, and our much coveted GPS units. The pirates have expressed their interests in widening their palate with samples of Shartak brewed beer and the use of first aid kits, while villagers thirst for exotic native wares and weapons, as well as pirate cutlasses and Shartak Jim's Pirate Rum.<br />
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It is our job to make sure these items get to these people, by finding them, then travelling to these villages and dropping them off to their trading huts.<br />
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=Organization=<br />
Jack W Spalding is the Founder and CEO of The South Shartak Trading Company. A vice president and chief financial officer has yet to be elected.<br />
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=Members=<br />
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The Founding Three:<br />
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1561 Jack W Spalding] Founder and CEO, played by Lord Shade.<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1860 TET] Trader and Liason Officer to the Royal Expedition, played by Tom Failur.<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1196 John Chapman] Trader and Adventurer, played by Lint.<br />
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Members of the SSTC:<br />
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1987 Tycho Yarr Everett] Trading System Innovator, played by [[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]].<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2138 shaft121] Trader and Adventurer, playing as himself.<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=2808 Bain] Native Merchant, played by [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]].<br />
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=Organizations in Good Stead=<br />
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These are the following groups that I consider good friends of The South Shartak Trading Company:<br />
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The [[Civilized Highway Society]] for their contribution to Shartak's road and trade network. For their colossal efforts, any member of The South Shartak Trading Company is authorized to aide this organization in any way it can. That includes mapping information and road construction.<br />
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The [[Colonial Police]] for trying to keep the peace in York. I hope they soon expand to the other villages. It's getting rough out there, so give them your support.<br />
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=Our Code of Conduct=<br />
We have a few simple rules to live by:<br />
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1). Natives, outsiders and pirates are to be treated equally. They are all business partners to us, and therefore must be regarded with impartiality.<br />
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2). Do not go attacking other people unless provoked. For example, if you are an outsider that spots a native, do not proceed to take its life. But if it attacks you, the company authorizes you to use lethal force.<br />
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3). Shamans are our friends. Leave them be.<br />
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4). Traders are essential to business. Leave them be.<br />
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5). Do not try to embroil The South Shartak Trading Company into any trade wars by provoking any responses from hostile parties. We do not start wars, only finish them. So lets not try to start another Opium War, ok?<br />
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=WANTED!=<br />
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Heavy sword. Information to wherabouts or to the item itself. Name your price. Arrange a time for pickup. Nobody can find the *&@#ing thing, and I'd give anything for it.<br />
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The trader's huts are always looking for goods. GPS's, driftwood, boozes, weapons, anything useful. Drop them off at your local trader's hut.<br />
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=Most Wanted List=<br />
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These are troublemakers that have been caught attacking and/or killing SSTC members. All members of the list are not removed and always hunted down unless the offender is humbled down and apologizes for any actions taken.<br />
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*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1871 Ranib] At large.<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=1553 Stoertebecker] Mercifully executed by the Colonial Police.<br />
*[http://www.shartak.com/profile.cgi?id=858 73h m4k0] Killed in an attempt to murder a merchant of the SSTC.<br />
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=OOC Policy=<br />
It is asked that only members of The South Shartak Trading Company are allowed to edit this page, and anyone outside of this group doing so shall and will be accused of Wiki sabotage. Thank you.<br />
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[[Category:Clans]] [[Category:Clans for both]]</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=Talk:NPC&diff=5540Talk:NPC2006-05-24T07:48:41Z<p>Kripcat: </p>
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<div>Oh sure we may not need it '''now''', most of our members currently coming from other MMORPG (is that the right acronym?) games, but as the community grows people will arrive who have never played a RPG before and as such may need some guidance on the basics. [[User:Kripcat|Kripcat]] 08:48, 24 May 2006 (BST)</div>Kripcathttps://wiki.shartak.com/index.php?title=NPC&diff=5429NPC2006-05-23T07:27:51Z<p>Kripcat: cretaed page</p>
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<div>NPC stands for Non Player Character. These characters are controlled by a bot or by the Shartak server. NPC players in Shartak are Shamans and....(continue)</div>Kripcat