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Talk:Main Page

2007-03-19T13:03:56Z

Avol:

== Original Navigation ==
{{Main Page Navigation|mainpage_navi1a=Glossary|mainpage_navi1b=
* [[Locations]]
** [[Camp]]s ([[Dalpok]], [[Raktam]], [[Wiksik]], [[Derby]], [[Durham]], [[York]], [[Shipwreck]])
** [[Terrain]]
* [[Items]]
* [[NPC]]s ([[animals]], [[shaman]]s, [[trader]]s)
* [[Character classes]]
* [[Skills]]|mainpage_navi2a=Guides|mainpage_navi2b=
* [[Gameplay]]
* [[Tips and tricks]]
* [[User interface]]
* [[Death]]
* [[Language]]
* [[Tracking]]
* [[Trading]]
** [[Trading hut stock reports]]
* [[Writing]]
* [[Search odds condensed]]
** [[Search odds condensed (results)|Results]]
* [[Special weapon event odds]]|mainpage_navi3a=Feedback|mainpage_navi3b=
* [[Requests for information]]
* [[Game design]]
* [[Bugs]]
** [[Bugs:Not]]
** [[Bugs:Fixed]]
* [[Suggestions]]
** [[Suggestions:Items|Items]]
** [[Suggestions:Skills|Skills]]
** [[Suggestions:Classes|Classes]]
** [[Suggestions:Game mechanics|Game mechanics]]
** [[Suggestions:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous]]
** [[Suggestions:Implemented|Implemented]]|mainpage_navi4a=Site data|mainpage_navi4b=
* [http://www.shartak.com/faq.html FAQ]
* [http://www.shartak.com/news.html News]
** [http://www.shartak.com/old_news.html Older news]
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** [http://www.shartak.com/statkills.html Kill statistics with NPCs]
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* [http://www.shartak.com/donate.html Donate]
* [http://www.shartak.com/advertising.html Advertising]|mainpage_navi5a=Clans|mainpage_navi5b=
* [[:Category:Clans|Clans]]
** [[:Category:Clans for natives|Clans for natives]]
** [[:Category:Clans for outsiders|Clans for outsiders]]
** [[:Category:Clans for everyone|Clans for everyone]]
** [[:Category:Officially recognized clans|Officially recognized clans]]|mainpage_navi6a=External links|mainpage_navi6b=
* [[Project:Community Portal|Community Portal]]
** [http://www.frappr.com/shartak Frappr map]
** [[Project:Community Portal#Greasemonkey scripts|Greasemonkey scripts]]
** [http://shartak.forumsplace.com/index.html Unofficial forum]}}

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== Proposal 1 ==

This is a general redesign proposal for the navigation found on the main page. It attempts to provide the broadest amount of information in the least amount of links. Most of the sub-article links have been removed. Even the external links have been removed as they are listed in the community portal. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:58, 28 May 2006 (BST)

{{Main Page Navigation|

mainpage_navi1a=Basics|
mainpage_navi1b=
* [[Gameplay]]
* [[Tips and tricks]]
* [[User interface]]
|

mainpage_navi2a=Game information|
mainpage_navi2b=
* [[:Category:Glossary|Glossary]]
* [[:Category:Locations|Locations]]
* [[:Category:Statistics|Statistics]]
|

mainpage_navi3a=Feedback|
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* [[Requests for information]]
* [[Game design]]
* [[Bugs]]
* [[Suggestions]]
|

mainpage_navi4a=Site information|
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* [http://www.shartak.com/faq.html FAQ]
* [http://www.shartak.com/news.html News]
* [http://www.shartak.com/stats.html Statistics]
* [http://www.shartak.com/donate.html Donate]
* [http://www.shartak.com/advertising.html Advertising]
|

mainpage_navi5a=Clans|
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* [[:Category:Clans|Clan pages]]
** [[:Category:Clans for natives|Clans for natives]]
** [[:Category:Clans for outsiders|Clans for outsiders]]
** [[:Category:Clans for everyone|Clans for everyone]]
** [[:Category:Officially recognized clans|Officially recognized clans]]
|

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'''Comments:'''

Wow, I've probably visited the Main Page 500 times, and it seems like half of those I went straight through to one of the following pages:
{| style="width:30%;"
| style="padding:5px;border:1px solid #aaa;background:#d2eed2;text-align:center;-moz-border-radius-topleft:1em;-moz-border-radius-topright:1em;"|'''[[Camp]]s'''
|-
| style="padding:5px;border:1px solid #aaa;background:#fefffe;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:1em;-moz-border-radius-bottomright:1em;" |
* [[Dalpok]]
* [[Raktam]]
* [[Wiksik]]
* [[Derby]]
* [[Durham]]
* [[York]]
* [[Shipwreck]]
|}
So I was disappointed to see the Camps gradually shrinking and shrinking and disappearing entirely from the Main Page. If I'm heading into a foreign village, I need to be able to get into the Resource Hut & get what I need and move on efficiently. No other pages have such immediate and constant utility. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:10, 5 June 2006 (BST)

:Yeah, I understand how useful those direct links were. But when I was removing sub-articles I wasn't sure where exactly I should draw the line so I removed them all. I'm generally fine with readding the camps back in underneath the Locations link or create a new menu section. What is your stance on the links to the Bug and Suggestion related articles? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 05:27, 5 June 2006 (BST)

:I think the camps should probably be added again, though I like the rest of Lint's changes. But instead of putting the camps back in a list, why not mention them all in the game description (which already names the native camps and links to them)? — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 05:32, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Talk:Main Page

2007-03-19T13:02:59Z

Avol:

== Original Navigation ==
{{Main Page Navigation|mainpage_navi1a=Glossary|mainpage_navi1b=
* [[Locations]]
** [[Camp]]s ([[Dalpok]], [[Raktam]], [[Wiksik]], [[Derby]], [[Durham]], [[York]], [[Shipwreck]])
** [[Terrain]]
* [[Items]]
* [[NPC]]s ([[animals]], [[shaman]]s, [[trader]]s)
* [[Character classes]]
* [[Skills]]|mainpage_navi2a=Guides|mainpage_navi2b=
* [[Gameplay]]
* [[Tips and tricks]]
* [[User interface]]
* [[Death]]
* [[Language]]
* [[Tracking]]
* [[Trading]]
** [[Trading hut stock reports]]
* [[Writing]]
* [[Search odds condensed]]
** [[Search odds condensed (results)|Results]]
* [[Special weapon event odds]]|mainpage_navi3a=Feedback|mainpage_navi3b=
* [[Requests for information]]
* [[Game design]]
* [[Bugs]]
** [[Bugs:Not]]
** [[Bugs:Fixed]]
* [[Suggestions]]
** [[Suggestions:Items|Items]]
** [[Suggestions:Skills|Skills]]
** [[Suggestions:Classes|Classes]]
** [[Suggestions:Game mechanics|Game mechanics]]
** [[Suggestions:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous]]
** [[Suggestions:Implemented|Implemented]]|mainpage_navi4a=Site data|mainpage_navi4b=
* [http://www.shartak.com/faq.html FAQ]
* [http://www.shartak.com/news.html News]
** [http://www.shartak.com/old_news.html Older news]
* [http://www.shartak.com/stats.html Statistics]
** [http://www.shartak.com/statkills.html Kill statistics with NPCs]
** [http://www.shartak.com/statpkills.html Kill statistics without NPCs]
* [http://www.shartak.com/donate.html Donate]
* [http://www.shartak.com/advertising.html Advertising]|mainpage_navi5a=Clans|mainpage_navi5b=
* [[:Category:Clans|Clans]]
** [[:Category:Clans for natives|Clans for natives]]
** [[:Category:Clans for outsiders|Clans for outsiders]]
** [[:Category:Clans for everyone|Clans for everyone]]
** [[:Category:Officially recognized clans|Officially recognized clans]]|mainpage_navi6a=External links|mainpage_navi6b=
* [[Project:Community Portal|Community Portal]]
** [http://www.frappr.com/shartak Frappr map]
** [[Project:Community Portal#Greasemonkey scripts|Greasemonkey scripts]]
** [http://shartak.forumsplace.com/index.html Unofficial forum]}}

== Proposal 1 ==

This is a general redesign proposal for the navigation found on the main page. It attempts to provide the broadest amount of information in the least amount of links. Most of the sub-article links have been removed. Even the external links have been removed as they are listed in the community portal. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 20:58, 28 May 2006 (BST)

{{Main Page Navigation|

mainpage_navi1a=Basics|
mainpage_navi1b=
* [[Gameplay]]
* [[Tips and tricks]]
* [[User interface]]
|

mainpage_navi2a=Game information|
mainpage_navi2b=
* [[:Category:Glossary|Glossary]]
* [[:Category:Locations|Locations]]
* [[:Category:Statistics|Statistics]]
|

mainpage_navi3a=Feedback|
mainpage_navi3b=
* [[Requests for information]]
* [[Game design]]
* [[Bugs]]
* [[Suggestions]]
|

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* [http://www.shartak.com/faq.html FAQ]
* [http://www.shartak.com/news.html News]
* [http://www.shartak.com/stats.html Statistics]
* [http://www.shartak.com/donate.html Donate]
* [http://www.shartak.com/advertising.html Advertising]
|

mainpage_navi5a=Clans|
mainpage_navi5b=
* [[:Category:Clans|Clan pages]]
** [[:Category:Clans for natives|Clans for natives]]
** [[:Category:Clans for outsiders|Clans for outsiders]]
** [[:Category:Clans for everyone|Clans for everyone]]
** [[:Category:Officially recognized clans|Officially recognized clans]]
|

mainpage_navi6a=Wiki information|
mainpage_navi6b=
* [[Project:About|About]]
* [[Project:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]]
* [[Project:Help|Help]]
* [[Project:Community Portal|Community portal]]
}}

'''Comments:'''

Wow, I've probably visited the Main Page 500 times, and it seems like half of those I went straight through to one of the following pages:
{| style="width:30%;"
| style="padding:5px;border:1px solid #aaa;background:#d2eed2;text-align:center;-moz-border-radius-topleft:1em;-moz-border-radius-topright:1em;"|'''[[Camp]]s'''
|-
| style="padding:5px;border:1px solid #aaa;background:#fefffe;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:1em;-moz-border-radius-bottomright:1em;" |
* [[Dalpok]]
* [[Raktam]]
* [[Wiksik]]
* [[Derby]]
* [[Durham]]
* [[York]]
* [[Shipwreck]]
|}
So I was disappointed to see the Camps gradually shrinking and shrinking and disappearing entirely from the Main Page. If I'm heading into a foreign village, I need to be able to get into the Resource Hut & get what I need and move on efficiently. No other pages have such immediate and constant utility. --[[User:Tycho44|Tycho44]] 05:10, 5 June 2006 (BST)

:Yeah, I understand how useful those direct links were. But when I was removing sub-articles I wasn't sure where exactly I should draw the line so I removed them all. I'm generally fine with readding the camps back in underneath the Locations link or create a new menu section. What is your stance on the links to the Bug and Suggestion related articles? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 05:27, 5 June 2006 (BST)

:I think the camps should probably be added again, though I like the rest of Lint's changes. But instead of putting the camps back in a list, why not mention them all in the game description (which already names the native camps and links to them)? — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 05:32, 5 June 2006 (BST)